Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots

2005-08-26 Thread Mike Montour
Chris Lloyd wrote: Funny things magnets, I did some work with them back in the 60s, they do seem to contain far more energy than they should. Although energy is probably not the right word. Use electro magnets to hold 100 Kg in the air and you can see the energy being used by the current

[Biofuel] Thank you JtF, for continued excellence!

2005-08-26 Thread Sean Michael Dargan
In the four short months that I've been reading and learning from the Biofuels listserv, I have come to value greatly the breadth and depth of knowledge of its members, not to mention its moderator. For this I thank you all. I just successfully completed my first test batch, have begun gathering

[Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread BT
Greetings fellow revolutionary alchemists! The question I have is, How do we help separate the good-hearted followers from their devious leaders? For example: I often forward news and interesting articles (much of which I find on this list, thanks to you all) to a few friends and family. I

Re: [Biofuel] How to make ehtanol, second try.......

2005-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Wireless Data Transfer Hello there! This is the second time I post this question, since nobody responded to the first time, please advice! I own a fairly big piece of land, in which I grow oranges, and a lot of them fall from the trees and rot on the ground. I have been told that making

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson / Chavez story on CNN

2005-08-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, What can I say? More than that you are right and I apologize. Hakan At 06:08 26/08/2005, you wrote: Hakan, not to bust your chops, but don't you think your remark was a little offensive? I mean apes are pretty smart and generally live in a fairly harmonious family unit. I think

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Manick Harris
Hi everybody, I do not know about Robertson, but thereare many so-called 'evangelists' whose sole purpose is to collect money from naive believers. My late mother once donated !R 200 to a well known TV evangelist.and received a hasty letter back from the guy stating that it wasn't enough even for

Re: [Biofuel] DSE web site

2005-08-26 Thread Chris Lloyd
I have seen something similar used in England, after adding and shaking the mixture has to stand for about a week.  Chris. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/82 - Release Date: 25/08/2005

Re: [Biofuel] Thank you JtF, for continued excellence!

2005-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Gosh... :-) Thankyou Sean, good for you! In the four short months that I've been reading and learning from the Biofuels listserv, I have come to value greatly the breadth and depth of knowledge of its members, not to mention its moderator. For this I thank you all. I just successfully

[Biofuel] Apartment dwellers - was Re: (no subject)

2005-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Scott, welcome I'm pretty new here. Hello all: Question: 1. Is there a requirement to use a red gas can for biofuel (yellow for diesel)? Never heard of it, but I guess it depends where you are. 2. How does an apartment dweller create fuel in his or her small space? Have a look at

Re: [Biofuel] temperate oilseed tree?

2005-08-26 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Keith ; You can get seeds from ECHO. Try jojoba too. I just ordered 5,000 moringa seeds. US$150 including shipping. At the post office now. I'll post info on germination rate later. Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand Dear Sirs Your ordered Moringa seeds are despatched by Speed post No.

Re: [Biofuel] Apartment dwellers - was Re: (no subject)

2005-08-26 Thread Mike Weaver
Dunno on the cans but some places won't let you put Diesel in a gas can. I've made it inside - I would advise setting up a long table with a good fan near an open window. Keep some water handy. I finally decided to build a shed - I live in a house. Keith Addison wrote: Hello Scott, welcome

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Mike Weaver
I once sent them (Oral Roberts?) a brick. They were asking for 25.00 to buy a brick, so I sent them a letter saying I could get a much better price and did they want more. Cost me something like 4.00 for 4th class postage but it was worth it. Manick Harris wrote: Hi everybody, I do not know

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson / Chavez story on CNN

2005-08-26 Thread Kirk McLoren
Furthermore, the Scottish banker's charter became the pattern for the US Federal Reserve Board, a 'diabolic' agency created and nurtured by the US Senate Finance Committee, whose chairman was the 'Money Trust's' dependable friend, Senator A. Willis Robertson - Pat Robertson's father.

[Biofuel] Alternative to Toxic Mold Compounds?

2005-08-26 Thread Michael Redler
I know that this may fall outside the scope of our usual discussions but, I thought there might be knowledge to gain here. In the process of building a prototype solar tracker, I'm stuck with a dilemma. Some of the parts I make need to be molded. So, I'm making silicone based molds and casting

Re: [Biofuel] How to make ehtanol, second try.......

2005-08-26 Thread Michael Redler
"Hello there! This is the second time I post this question, since nobody responded to the first time, please advice!" (some) links to Books, equipment, videos http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_manual/manual1-2.html

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative to Toxic Mold Compounds?

2005-08-26 Thread Mike Weaver
What about milling Acrylic? Michael Redler wrote: I know that this may fall outside the scope of our usual discussions but, I thought there might be knowledge to gain here. In the process of building a prototype solar tracker, I'm stuck with a dilemma. Some of the parts I make need to be

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread robert luis rabello
BT wrote: Greetings fellow revolutionary alchemists! The question I have is, How do we help separate the good-hearted followers from their devious leaders? I've found the best thing to do is go back to the scriptures from whence Christians are supposed to derive standards for their

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative to Toxic Mold Compounds?

2005-08-26 Thread Peter Childers
How about using JB Weld. It has a high heat resistance and is impervious to oils and chemicals etc. Not sure how big your molds are but you may be able to buy direct from JB Weld in larger quantities. It is a two part epoxy that I have used to mold repair plastic items. It gravity flows and

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative to Toxic Mold Compounds?

2005-08-26 Thread Greg and April
Why use synthetic molds? Why not use classic greensand or plaster molds? It's something that highschool kids can do. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Michael Redler To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 8:11 Subject: [Biofuel]

Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

2005-08-26 Thread Greg and April
Use the Yellow can, for BioDiesel. The reason for the color difference of the can, is so someone will not mistake it for gasoline ( red ) or kerosene ( blue ).I know, you would check, but, it doesn't mean someone else will. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Scott Yancey [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative to Toxic Mold Compounds?

2005-08-26 Thread Ecogenics3
yes you can use dental impression compound called alginate it makes perfect molds and ive used it extensivelyh in making latex molds for fiberglass parts.. its relatively cheap absolutly safe and makes perfect impressions you can get it at any dental supply houses youll love it but you can

Re: [Biofuel] New Biodegradable Polymers

2005-08-26 Thread Greg and April
I wonder what they would get if they tried it with BioDiesel? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:47 Subject: [Biofuel] New Biodegradable Polymers STORY LEAD: New Citric Acid-Based

Re: [Biofuel] Apartment dwellers - was Re: (no subject)

2005-08-26 Thread John Hayes
In the US, fuel jugs are color-coded - red for gas, yellow for diesel and if, I remember correctly, blue for kerosene. Of course, in the vast majority of cases, the same polymer is used for all three so you can certainly substitute one for another safetywise. As to whether dispensing locations

Re: [Biofuel] DSE web site

2005-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
I have seen something similar used in England, after adding and shaking the mixture has to stand for about a week. ÝChris. Do you mean John Nicholson's Biopower stuff Chris? Just add a magic solvent, 30%, or was it 3%, or was it only a spoonful? Please see:

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson / Chavez story on CNN

2005-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Kirk Furthermore, the Scottish banker's charter became the pattern for the US Federal Reserve Board, a 'diabolic' agency created and nurtured by the US Senate Finance Committee, whose chairman was the 'Money Trust's' dependable friend, Senator A. Willis Robertson - Pat Robertson's father.

Re: [Biofuel] Cindy Sheehan: Still Not Worth It

2005-08-26 Thread John Hayes
John Hayes wrote: I was getting my haircut in New Haven on Tuesday and walked past a Yalie watering hole Barbara is known to frequent. On a telephone pole out front, there were 2 photos of injured Iraq War vets. With the photos was a sign that read something to the effect of Is it in poor

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Robert, A question, In many countries death threat and instigation of murdering a person is against the criminal laws. Is it not the same in US and if, why have they not arrested and questioned Robertson? Hakan At 17:13 26/08/2005, you wrote: BT wrote: Greetings fellow revolutionary

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Ken Provost
--- Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In many countries death threat and instigation of murdering a person is against the criminal laws. Is it not the same in US and if, why have they not arrested and questioned Robertson? Because he is the darling of the far right Christian

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative to Toxic Mold Compounds?

2005-08-26 Thread Manzo, Emil
Hi Mike. I was restoring an old car once and made a part I couldnt afford to purchase. Try looking up a company called Castolite (The Castolite Company 4915 Dean St. Woodstock, IL 60098 (815) 338-4670 (815) 338-4671) they have all kinds of mold making materials. Some are durable enough for

Re: [Biofuel] temperate oilseed tree?

2005-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Peter Hi Keith ; You can get seeds from ECHO. Try jojoba too. I just ordered 5,000 moringa seeds. US$150 including shipping. At the post office now. I'll post info on germination rate later. Please do. Good luck! Best Keith Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand Dear Sirs Your ordered

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Robert Ingram
The other night on CNN Christpher Hitchens called Pat Robertson a babbling idiot and proof of unintelligent design - Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et

Re: [Biofuel] switchable permanent magnets? was Magnetic boots

2005-08-26 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
OK thanks Cris. That still would'nt be practical for those NASA boots though would it. Adding electromagnets and a power supply would be bulky and inefficient at the very least. Just thinking out loud here but couldn't an electromagnet be combined with a so called magnet motor to help the

Re: [Biofuel] Removing water from WVO

2005-08-26 Thread Manzo, Emil
Thanks Kieth. You know how newbies get so enthusiastic digesting information at lightning speed and missing a lot? After reading what Dave states and from the other links, the polymer will work for free water that has separated but not for water that is combined with the impurities left from

Re: [Biofuel] How to make ehtanol, second try.......

2005-08-26 Thread Manick Harris
Hi, I sent a mail showing how to make ethanol from molasses but it bounced from hotmail mailbox. Email me again when the mailbox is not full. The email is 2 bitmaps with diagrams and method of manufacture composed from MS paint.Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Hello there! This is the

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread robert luis rabello
Hakan Falk wrote: Robert, A question, In many countries death threat and instigation of murdering a person is against the criminal laws. Is it not the same in US and if, why have they not arrested and questioned Robertson? At the very least, such a threat would cross the

Re: [Biofuel] DSE web site

2005-08-26 Thread Chris Lloyd
Do you mean John Nicholson's Biopower stuff Chris? Hi Keith, No idea I just caught part of a news item while channel changing. The reporter was telling about this chap who collected all the old cooking oil in his area, mixed it with an additive (some sort of catalyst) then left it to settle.

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread TarynToo
Amen Robert! While not a christian, I've read many of the major scriptures of the world. While reading the Robertson thread, I was thinking how badly we needed to hear the Who would Jesus hate? Who would Jesus kill? message. Your message is so on target. The most important teaching we

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Robert Ingram
Robertson will never be arrested Rummy says this is a free country and everyon has the right to free speeech and besides we have laws a ginst killing people . He failed to mention the thousands of dead American service men and Iraqui citizens and Robertson owns George Bush sometimes known as

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread David Miller
Hakan Falk wrote: Robert, A question, In many countries death threat and instigation of murdering a person is against the criminal laws. Is it not the same in US and if, why have they not arrested and questioned Robertson? It's tempting to reply to the effect that he's a supporter of Bush

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Hakan Falk
David, So it is legal in US to suggest that a man should be assassinated? What if Chavez is murdered is murdered and CIA is behind it, will he not be pursued for suggesting it? I know that it is against US law to have any agency to kill a leader of an other Nation. This means also that

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Clif Caldwell
Wow and to think that I was going to use this list only to figure out how to titrate WVO correctly. At the risk at attracting perhaps merited flames .. Where is the outrage at the coverage of the war in Iraq ? Have you heard one positive story on NPR or anywhere else ? Where is the outrage at

Re: [Biofuel] DSE web site

2005-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chris Do you mean John Nicholson's Biopower stuff Chris? Hi Keith, No idea I just caught part of a news item while channel changing. The reporter was telling about this chap who collected all the old cooking oil in his area, mixed it with an additive (some sort of catalyst) then left it to

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread David Miller
Hakan Falk wrote: David, So it is legal in US to suggest that a man should be assassinated? I expect that's covered under free speech. I'd personally rate Robertsons comments as up there with any number of people who advocate the death of Bush for crimes against humanity or somesuch. If

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread robert luis rabello
Clif Caldwell wrote: Wow and to think that I was going to use this list only to figure out how to titrate WVO correctly. At the risk at attracting perhaps merited flames .. Where is the outrage at the coverage of the war in Iraq ? There's a lot of this kind of discussion in the

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Mike Weaver
Clif Caldwell wrote: Wow and to think that I was going to use this list only to figure out how to titrate WVO correctly. At the risk at attracting perhaps merited flames .. Where is the outrage at the coverage of the war in Iraq ? I am a US citizen and I am outraged. I believe we need a

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Mike Weaver
Speaking of outrage, I thought the Mission Accomplished news stunt was pretty outrageous. robert luis rabello wrote: Clif Caldwell wrote: Wow and to think that I was going to use this list only to figure out how to titrate WVO correctly. At the risk at attracting perhaps merited flames

[Biofuel] Pat Robertson's business affiliation with Hugo Chavez

2005-08-26 Thread Andy Karpay
I sent a letter (email) to the 700 club asking that they take Mr. Robertson off the air, as he offended us all. I got a response back from them with about a 2 page dance-around in his defense which included direct quotes from his statement. One of the telling remarks was that he (Robertson) had

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hello David Hakan Falk wrote: David, So it is legal in US to suggest that a man should be assassinated? I expect that's covered under free speech. I'd personally rate Robertsons comments as up there with any number of people who advocate the death of Bush for crimes against humanity or

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
My my. And I was just thinking you might be a man who'd do a bit of checking before he shot his foot off. Again. I do rather wonder what you mean when you say right here in America when actually where you are right now is right here on the global Internet, on a global discussion group with a

Re: [Biofuel] DSE web site

2005-08-26 Thread William Adams
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] DSE web site Is DSE a believable site - has anyone had experience with them? My first thought is that anything seeming too good to

Re: [Biofuel] Pat Robertson's business affiliation with Hugo Chavez

2005-08-26 Thread Mike Weaver
Ah, I think Communism would've collapsed even w/o our help - it blew up in places even where we weren't meddling. My own thoughts are realistic Capitalism - a reasonably regulated free market economy and a pragmatic federal government. Think, oh, Finland. I do think the Constitution allows for

Re: [Biofuel] lye

2005-08-26 Thread Ash Daminato
There are actually several Wal-Mart's that are in the process of being unionized/are unionized in Canada. The first one to unionize in Quebec was closed less than two weeks later. Wal-mart says the store wasn't profitable. The unions say it was to intimidate workers at other stores. Vincent

Re: [Biofuel] thanks

2005-08-26 Thread malcolm maclure
Stelios, Many congratulations!! The world needs guys like you I think you have made a wise choice for a career. I would wish you all the very best of luck, but you don't need it - you're well on the way already!! :-) WELL DONE!!! Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative to Toxic Mold Compounds?

2005-08-26 Thread Ray J
How about fiberglass resin for the mold..?its not that good for you either, U mainly just have to watch out for the vapors.. its probably better than what you are using, from a safety stand point. what about something cast from plaster or carved out of wood?? the biggest thing of jb

Re: [Biofuel] New Biodegradable Polymers

2005-08-26 Thread Ray J
Just Disposed of how?? they make it sound like its just dumped... I thought glycerol and glycerin was a valuable commodity? New biodegradable polymers may provide the biodiesel industry with a new use for glycerol, which is now disposed of after the biodiesel is made. Glycerol

[Biofuel] Another use for glycerine

2005-08-26 Thread capt3d
the subject of glycerine by-product, and what to do with it, seems to come up quite frequently so i thought i'd pass on this bit of news. cheers, -chris = From: Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: biodiesel - glycerin - propylene glycol Renewable Alternatives, has developed a

Re: [Biofuel] Pat Robertson's business affiliation with Hugo Chavez

2005-08-26 Thread TarynToo
It's impossible to say Communism would've collapsed even w/o our help, since every state that has attempted communism, with few exceptions, has been destroyed by the U.S.A. and its allies using some combination of economic warfare, bribery and corruption, economic and military support of

[Biofuel] Question

2005-08-26 Thread Carlos David Monsalve
HI, I want to know if there is a better way to recover the metanol from the Glicerine than the two show on the web page ( large quantities). Thank you Carlos Monsalve MSN Amor Busca tu ½ naranja ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Clif Caldwell
Fred Finch wrote: Clif, No flames from me just... snip Where is the outrage at the coverage of the war in Iraq ? Coverage is adequate and the news is not very good. http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2005/07/good-news-from-iraq-part-31.html http://unix.dfn.org/good_news_iraq.shtml

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Clif Caldwell
Keith Addison wrote: My my. And I was just thinking you might be a man who'd do a bit of checking before he shot his foot off. Again. I do rather wonder what you mean when you say right here in America when actually where you are right now is right here on the global Internet, on a global

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Clif, Do not worry, Guantanamo is full of people who only suggested a destruction of US, but never did something about it. You have a lot of people who supports you and think the same. Every day you will find it in US news media, not to mention US legislation and US government. At 21:48

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-26 Thread robert luis rabello
Hakan Falk wrote: Excuse an ignorant foreigner, but what is NPR? Is it an internationally accepted shortening, or is it your secret? NPR stands for National Public Radio. It's a news service partially funded by the government through the non profit Corporation for Public