Re: [Biofuel] Supplemental Hydrogen Injection for Class 8 Trucks

2005-11-22 Thread Greg and April
This makes allot more sense. #1I suspect that the stainless steel cell may be one of the electrodes. #5I wonder if it makes a difference if the 100 hours at 15 mph or at 75 mph? Greg H. - Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters

2005-11-22 Thread Sten Armstrong
we started with a modified sine wave inverter with our first stand alone solar power system. lost several appliances because of it, washing machines especially seemed to dislike it. our new sine wave inverter cost a lot more but it works better and we haven't lost any appliances.Mike Weaver [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] acetone

2005-11-22 Thread stwyk
Hello Randall, A quick question if I may. I'd just like to confirm that the by gas you talk about petrol. Here in S.A. gas is gas(LPG). Are you useing gas(LPG) or petrol? Stephan South Africa. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread Greg and April
And justhow long do they have to make the adjustments? Greg H. - Original Message - From: john owens To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 13:45 Subject: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power I dono if this is

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread Keith Addison
I dono if this is realy related to truckers using hydrogen but this website http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/ claims to increase milage on cars by 50% they will also instal units and if with the right adjusments they cant give a 50% increase in milage they will give

Re: [Biofuel] Testing for phosphorus content

2005-11-22 Thread Joe Street
There are soil test kits available. I don't know if they would work for oil though but I think they are very low cost. Joe Keith Addison wrote: Hi all Does anyone know of a backyard-level test for phosphorus content in WVO? Thanks Best Keith

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread Joe Street
Well if I can ever figure out the secret to the electrolized 'alternative biodiesel process' which the patent abstract claims produces hydrogen as a byproduct, it may one day be possible to electolize the vegetable oil/alcohol mixture at the injector rail and have hydrogen injection to boot.

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread Marty Phee
If after making the proper adjustments, we cannot achieve a 50% increase in mileage over the baseline mileage figures, *the Hydrogen-Boost system is yours free of charge*. However if we achieve over 50% increase in mileage you agree to *pay double *the regular prices. I'm guessing the person

Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters

2005-11-22 Thread Mike Weaver
I'm not off grid but use modified sine wave. If I had it to do over I would have bought the pure. Sten Armstrong wrote: we started with a modified sine wave inverter with our first stand alone solar power system. lost several appliances because of it, washing machines especially seemed

Re: [Biofuel] Supplemental Hydrogen Injection for Class 8 Trucks

2005-11-22 Thread bob allen
Howdy Robert, I'll take my usual role as a skeptic again. I still have heard little more than testimonial evidence. History is replete with examples of individuals who really believed in something that wasn't real. Self-deception is human nature, if one is not very, very careful. (_vide

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread Chris lloyd
First discussed on the list in 2001, with scepticism. Strange that five years later it's still not exactly a household name and not to be found on every other motor. Or maybe that's not so strange. That is not really surprising when you read that the total cost of installing it on a truck was

Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters

2005-11-22 Thread Chris lloyd
I'm not off grid but use modified sine wave. What do you mean by modified sine wave? Chris. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to

Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters

2005-11-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Cheap junky inverter vs. good inverter, not to put too fine a point on it... Chris lloyd wrote: I'm not off grid but use modified sine wave. What do you mean by modified sine wave? Chris. ___ Biofuel mailing list

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread bob allen
Marty Phee wrote: If after making the proper adjustments, we cannot achieve a 50% increase in mileage over the baseline mileage figures, *the Hydrogen-Boost system is yours free of charge*. However if we achieve over 50% increase in mileage you agree to *pay double *the regular prices.

Re: [Biofuel] Supplemental Hydrogen Injection for Class 8 Trucks

2005-11-22 Thread robert luis rabello
Greg and April wrote: This makes allot more sense. I'm glad you think so. I'm happy to help clear up any confusion and separate fact from hype. Long ago, I was very interested in hydrogen as an energy carrier, but its appeal has lessened significantly over time. Part of that stems

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread bob allen
Marty Phee wrote: If after making the proper adjustments, we cannot achieve a 50% increase in mileage over the baseline mileage figures, *the Hydrogen-Boost system is yours free of charge*. However if we achieve over 50% increase in mileage you agree to *pay double *the regular prices.

Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters

2005-11-22 Thread Chris lloyd
Cheap junky inverter vs. good inverter, not to put too fine a point on it... I remember something I bought years ago that only gave out a half wave, it messed up my stereo. Chris, Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] Supplemental Hydrogen Injection for Class 8 Trucks

2005-11-22 Thread robert luis rabello
bob allen wrote: Howdy Robert, I'll take my usual role as a skeptic again. I still have heard little more than testimonial evidence. A wise position, sir. In your field such skepticism is appropriate. Could it be that the truckers are unconsciously unwilling to admit that they

Re: [Biofuel] Supplemental Hydrogen Injection for Class 8 Trucks

2005-11-22 Thread Chris lloyd
However, the effectiveness of supplemental hydrogen injection has been researched and documented by researchers who have no financial interest in a particular product. It was tested a few years back in some our local buses here in the UK, mainly as a way of reducing emissions on start-up

Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters

2005-11-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Yup Chris lloyd wrote: Cheap junky inverter vs. good inverter, not to put too fine a point on it... I remember something I bought years ago that only gave out a half wave, it messed up my stereo. Chris, Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread Greg and April
If they don't achieve the 50% increase, they are out only about $800, if they do, the person, who had it installed is out about $2100. Talk about a rip off in favor of the company. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Marty Phee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent:

Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters

2005-11-22 Thread Michael Nehring
What do you mean by modified sine wave? Normal AC electricity flows basically in both directions and the change from one peak to another is smooth and has the shape of a sine wave. Modified sine wave inverters don't follow this pattern exactly. They may hold full power in one direction for 1/4

Re: [Biofuel] acetone

2005-11-22 Thread Randall
Stephan, The car uses petrol /gasoline. It is not the model that uses LPG or other flex fuels. --Randall Charlotte, NC - Original Message - From: stwyk To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:41 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] acetone

Re: [Biofuel] Supplemental Hydrogen Injection for Class 8 Trucks

2005-11-22 Thread David Miller
robert luis rabello wrote: Greg and April wrote: This makes allot more sense. [snip] #5I wonder if it makes a difference if the 100 hours at 15 mph or at 75 mph? It won't. The unit is not tied into the onboard fuel injection management computer. From what I

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread Kurt Nolte
This site is setting of nine thousand kinds of alarm bells in my head. Read their challenge. Open to anyone who wants to take a chance. You decide to purchase the complete Hydrogen-Boost system with installation, at individual component prices and we will guarantee a

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread robert luis rabello
Kurt Nolte wrote: This site is setting of nine thousand kinds of alarm bells in my head. A good thing! I'd stay away from those people . . . robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread Mike Weaver
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hears bells in his head. Kurt Nolte wrote: This site is setting of nine thousand kinds of alarm bells in my head. Read their challenge. Open to anyone who wants to take a chance. You decide to purchase the complete Hydrogen-Boost system with

Re: [Biofuel] Testing for phosphorus content

2005-11-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Joe There are soil test kits available. I don't know if they would work for oil though but I think they are very low cost. Joe Didn't think of that, and I'm working with soil all the time. I never test it though (it tests itself). Maybe it'll work, I'll give it a try. Thanks! Regards

Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters

2005-11-22 Thread Michael Redler
Michael,Well done.I would only add that if one looks at any wave form as a series of sines and cosines (as Fourier did),an explanation as to why equipment malfunctions under a modified sinesignal becomes clear. Many forms of modified sine wavescome from a kind of square wave (as in

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread Joe Street
Surely this can be verified on a dynamometer at all combinations of power, rpm, air temp or what have you. I even saw a pic of a dyno on the web page. Isn't there any data? Joe Mike Weaver wrote: I'm glad I'm not the only one who hears bells in his head. Kurt Nolte wrote: This

[Biofuel] Fwd: More on CHEC HFI

2005-11-22 Thread Darryl McMahon
I am forwarding part of the note I received from Steve Gilchrist of CHEC in response to my inquiry. (I have snipped out some text pertaining to personal and local political matters. It does not affect the tone or information of interest to this list.) I thought the information about using

Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters

2005-11-22 Thread Doug Foskey
Modified sine: stepped generation of approximate sine wave. The issue is that modified sine generates transients that interfere with some attached equipment power supplies (an example being in the medical field: Baxter Colleague infusion pumps overheat their power supplies on modified sine wave

[Biofuel] disposable solar panels developed using nanotechnology

2005-11-22 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
Disposable solar panels developed using nanotechnology Scientists at the University of Cape Town are exploiting the nano-scale properties of silicon to develop a super-thin disposable solar panel poster which they hope could offer rural dwellers a cheap, alternative source of power. Many

Re: [Biofuel] Greenpeace: EU ready to lead the way to a clean energy future

2005-11-22 Thread damiandolan
Hi Keith, am working reillo burner and have report, what best way to send to yourself? Best regards dD Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote: http://www.ems.org/nws/2005/09/27/greenpeace_eu_re http://eu.greenpeace.org/downloads/energy/2050scenario050927.pdf Source: Greenpeace

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread Kurt Nolte
On 11/22/05, Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely this can be verified on a dynamometer at all combinations of power, rpm, air temp or what have you. I even saw a pic of a dyno on the web page. Isn't there any data? Not that I could see. No charts, tables, or even references to

Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power

2005-11-22 Thread Kurt Nolte
On 11/22/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad I'm not the only one who hears bells in his head. Sometimes I hear whistles instead. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Testing for phosphorus content

2005-11-22 Thread JJJN
I think they will work as they would with soil. I used one this Spring, You add the Soil to one line (Oil in this case) then water to the next Line Shake and dip the strip just like ph Strips. the water is to dissolve the phosphorus from the soil for testing. The trouble comes if you want to

[Biofuel] New way to process raw Soybeans into Biodiesel

2005-11-22 Thread JJJN
This is interesting hope you enjoy, http://www.theprairiestar.com/articles/2005/06/23/ag_news/updates/update56.txt Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org

[Biofuel] The bad news about Biodiesel

2005-11-22 Thread JJJN
I saw an article in the Trader's Dispatch ( an agricultural paper printed in Valier Montana) that made me wonder who will win the race. First some background: The paper showed a vendor of one of these super duper biodiesel automatic generators showing a crowd that included the State Governor