Re: [Biofuel] Prions and junk science

2006-06-14 Thread Chip Mefford
Just in case anyone cares (at all) I, and I know others immediately tune out anything that has the phrase 'junk science' in it anywhere. The phrase was useful for about 4 months, many many years ago. It has long since lost any context. It is a pejorative term, initially used to describe logical

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread JJJN
Hi Marilyn, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirk wrote A friend of mine raises cattle on the highline in Montana. It takes 40 acres to support 1 cow. The land is useless for agriculture as it is too dry and there is no water for irrigation. Without cattle it would yield nothing to eat unless you

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread Jason Katie
they are very good for ethanol, they have a mediocre average yield per harvest, but can yield 2 or 3 harvests per season which makes up the difference rather well. - Original Message - From: JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:04 PM

Re: [Biofuel] was...ANYONE know anything about this?

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Weaver
I used to put mothballs in the gas tank of my '69 Chevy Nova and it easily doubled the mileage and power. Then I put a magnet on the fuel line and tripled the power. Unfortunately with all this power I kept having to buy new rear tires., so I sold it. Now I use DSE and it works great. You

Re: [Biofuel] Prions and junk science

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Weaver
Nonsense. You're not trying hard enough: Alice laughed: There's no use trying, she said; one can't believe impossible things. I daresay you haven't had much practice, said the Queen. When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six

Re: [Biofuel] Help needed!

2006-06-14 Thread Charles List
Hi again Unfortunately no-one has answered my last post- have I found an insurmountable problem?! Going back a few steps and trying to figure out what's going on, I've done some more 1l batches on the original WVO I used in my process, using 9.5g of 90% KOH I got three layers- lovely bio

Re: [Biofuel] Prions and junk science

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Redler
In the spirit of Godwin's law and considering the fact that Chip is the first (to my knowledge) to make this observation, maybe this phenomenon should be called Chip's Law. :-) -Redler Chip Mefford wrote: Just in case anyone cares (at all) I, and I know others immediately tune out anything

Re: [Biofuel] Prions and junk science

2006-06-14 Thread Hakan Falk
Chip, What ever it is, most of it has a tendency to show up in my Eudora Junk Box. LOL Hakan At 20:01 14/06/2006, you wrote: Just in case anyone cares (at all) I, and I know others immediately tune out anything that has the phrase 'junk science' in it anywhere. The phrase was useful for

Re: [Biofuel] was...ANYONE know anything about this?

2006-06-14 Thread mark manchester
Darling, for gawdsake, quit your dayjob, please. Jesse From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:22:27 -0400 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was...ANYONE know anything about this? I used to put mothballs

Re: [Biofuel] Prions and junk science

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Redler
Back off Weaver! Some things really are impossible. I did some research and according to Wayne Manzanero, you're WAY off! It's impossible to tell the sun to leave the sky It's impossible to ask a baby not to cry Can the ocean keep from rushing to the shore? ...it's just impossible! -Redler

Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics

2006-06-14 Thread Doug Foskey
Actually, the web tools, web servers are one of Linux's strengths. Google is the largest network of Linux computers in the world. Servers, Internet are Linux domains. The desktop is currently its (perceived) weakness. The reality is completely different (ie Linux is great on the desktop:

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Jim, Wednesday, 14 June, 2006, 00:56:51, you wrote: J Excellent Piece Keith, I did enjoy it and must agree. J I may add to the argument that is stated, J primal conviction that killing is wrong. It is just plain wrong to J take another animal's life unnecessarily; it is bloody,

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread Chris Lloyd
Save the animals and stop wasting water by using itfor irrigation, legalize murder and encourage cannibalism. Problem solved, how's that for radical? Chris. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread chem.dd
I find it interesting that some people think that it is morally wrong for humans to eat meat. I respectand understand some groups who choose not to eat meat due to specific religious beliefs. Humans are omnivores because we evolved that way. There are other animals that are herbivores and

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Kirk, Tuesday, 13 June, 2006, 22:01:59, you wrote: KM A friend of mine raises cattle on the highline in Montana. It takes 40 acres to support 1 cow. The land is useless for agriculture as it is too dry and there is no water for irrigation. Without KM cattle it would yield nothing to eat

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Robert, Wednesday, 14 June, 2006, 01:21:48, you wrote: ...snip... rabr Hmm . . . Maybe that's not what the scriptures are referring to, rabr anyway. Maybe I'd better go back and read that verse again. And then, rabr isn't there something about fishermen spreading nets along the

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread Doug Foskey
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 6:36, Chris Lloyd wrote: Save the animals and stop wasting water by using it for irrigation, legalize murder and encourage cannibalism. Problem solved, how's that for radical? Chris. the fattest, juiciest ones come from southern N America! (But for the

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread doug
chem.dd wrote: I find it interesting that some people think that it is morally wrong for humans to eat meat. I respect and understand some groups who choose not to eat meat due to specific religious beliefs. Humans are omnivores because we evolved that way. There are other animals that

Re: [Biofuel] Full Text : 'Honestly, only in Palestine'

2006-06-14 Thread fox mulder
Source: Le Monde diplomatique http://mondediplo.com/2006/06/04women 'Honestly, only in Palestine' By Wendy Kristianasen Palestinian women came to the fore during the first intifada, which erupted at the end of 1987, as their husbands and sons were killed, injured or arrested. They joined in

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread Chris Lloyd
But for the contamination: they are fed on genetically modified protein: would you trust it??) No, I do my best never to eat any GM products but it's not easy with the US pushing GM products and out stupid PM acting as Bushes puppet. Luckily there is a large proportion of the population

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Weaver
keep up the boycott - otherwise we'll never learn. Chris Lloyd wrote: But for the contamination: they are fed on genetically modified protein: would you trust it??) No, I do my best never to eat any GM products but it's not easy with the US pushing GM products and out stupid PM acting

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread lres1
I think overall Darwin, or the publishers, got it wrong, the green slime is at the top and the upper class Englishman, plus a few others, at the bottom, for some reason it got inverted in the printed or remembered versions, or was it just too darn much? Several millenium and what does the world

[Biofuel] EPA Rule Loosened After Oil Chief's Letter to Rove

2006-06-14 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
http://snipurl.com/rrp1 http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-rove13jun13,0,6998893.story?coll=la-home-headlines EPA Rule Loosened After Oil Chief's Letter to Rove The White House says the executive's appeal had no role in changing a measure to protect groundwater.

[Biofuel] friends of big oil update

2006-06-14 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
Friends of big oil update (from another list) 60/Sixty Plus Association (member of the Cooler Heads Coalition, associate of Competitive Enterprise Inst. Front Group for BIG OIL) Accuracy in Academia (Council for the Defense of Freedom front group, Accuracy in Academia (AIA) is Reed

Re: [Biofuel] Prions and junk science

2006-06-14 Thread bob allen
Howdy Kirk, I must strongly disagree with just about everything in this article. Kirk McLoren wrote: http://nov55.com/prin.html *Prions and Junk Science* *Prion proteins lack genetic material for creating their own evolution. right out of the gun this is silly. Most if not all

Re: [Biofuel] was...ANYONE know anything about this?

2006-06-14 Thread ROY Washbish
Tallex Thanks for your comments RoyAltEnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,It sounds similar to other cylinder treatments such as Duralube, STP, etc.I used to use Duralube in an '93 gmc Vandura 3/4 ton I hadand it made the engine run quieter and increasedmileage a little by coating the

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread marilyn
Kirk wrote A friend of mine raises cattle on the highline in Montana. It takes 40 acres to support 1 cow. The land is useless for agriculture as it is too dry and there is no water for irrigation. Without cattle it would yield nothing to eat unless you want to munch on the native bunch

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk McLoren
JA - They look like little sunflowers and they stand quite a bit of aridity. Not this much aridity. It would be desert where he lives except the long winter saves its little precipitation for warmer times. I asked him if he was ranching there just to prove he could.Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread Chris Lloyd
Question for anyone who knows: Is it too cold for him to grow Jerusalem artichokes? I've heard they take no irrigation and are very good for making ethanol. I do not know about their temperature range but don't they require good fertile soil? Chris.

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.biblelife.org/abrams.htm Anthropological Research Reveals HumanDietary Requirements for Optimal Health H. Leon Abrams, Jr., MA, EDS Associate Professor Emeritus of Anthropology, ECJC, University System of Georgia, Swainsboro, Georgia. Journal of Applied Nutrition, 1982, 16:1:38-45

Re: [Biofuel] The Ethics of Eating Meat: A Radical View

2006-06-14 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.biblelife.org/abrams2.htm Vegetarianism: Another View H. Leon Abrams, Jr., MA, EDS Associate Professor Emeritus of Anthropology, ECJC, University System of Georgia, Swainsboro, Georgia. Reprinted with permission of the author. Early Humankind Vegetarianism is a cultural and social,