Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Keith Addison
i have a pump question on a side note. will a window washer fluid pump from a car work in my little test reactor, or will it dissolve as well? I think it'll work, Michael Allen was using them in Thailand for things biodiesel and didn't have problems. Best Keith Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN:

Re: [Biofuel] breakthrough - store CH4 at 500psi instead of 3600

2006-07-20 Thread lres1
I was also under the impression that Acetylene for decades has been kept at reasonable pressures in the cylinders due to the carbon or Kapok filling. I was also to understand that at above 15 psi Acetylene was unstable and thus the need to use a filler to react with the gas. Can some one

Re: [Biofuel] EPA seizes thousands of illegally imported engines

2006-07-20 Thread lres1
How would it look Green engines seized by customs through non compliance with pollution laws H. (not enough pollution perhaps). Definitely not Chevrinn friendly. Can't see any reason why not if an engine specifies only Bio fuels in big red warning signs then Yo. They will not be outside the

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Kelly
Charles, The impeller in the clearwater pump is metal. Plastic impellers will eventually fail in pumps used to agitate the reaction. My experience w. the clearwater pump is that it will handle up to 90L (~ 24 gal) batches. Above that, even after three hours reaction time, I have

Re: [Biofuel] breakthrough - store CH4 at 500psi instead of 3600

2006-07-20 Thread bob allen
I did a little hyway driving last weekend in my (really my wife's) Prius: at 65 mph we got 54 mpg, 60 about 56 mpg and at 50 mph an honest 61+ mpg. Essentially flat and windless conditions. Zeke Yewdall wrote: Yeah, I know about the getting passed like you are standing still. My truck

[Biofuel] Smacking the hornet's nest

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Weaver
I can't say I am always a fan of the Israeli government right or wrong, and let's be honest, they've made some mistakes (but then look at the US gov't), but they are in an impossible spot. Do they need some nudging to do they right thing? Yes, but we all do. Let's stop and think, Why are they

Re: [Biofuel] Check Your Beliefs

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Weaver
Up until the 2nd WW there were as many if not more anti-semitic acts in the US than Europe. Zeke Yewdall wrote: Actually, it seems to me that the US and Europe created Israel because we felt bad about the holocaust, but not enough to actually want to stop their anti-semitism so they

Re: [Biofuel] Cause of New Plymouth biodiesel explosion released

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Weaver
I was 19 or so. I got too close to a fuel tank (2-3) feet with a cutting wheel on a Ingersol air rotary. I was cutting off the exhaust system. He smacked me in the back of the head with his rather large hand, put his cigar-chomping face into mine and explained the facts of gas, fumes,

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Weaver
We're using a clearwater with good results - but be careful to leave a little oil in it for priming purposes and when you plumb it use tape - any air leaks really impair its ability... Charles List wrote: Hi All Thanks to all who have advised me this last few months, I am now a biofueller!

Re: [Biofuel] Check Your Beliefs

2006-07-20 Thread Joe Street
Bob; Your comments are surely offensive and ill considered. Move back onto their own territory? Pray tell where is that? Parachuting displaced Jews into the area we call Israel was the first mistake made by the US and Brittain IMHO and we have been living with the fallout ever since.

Re: [Biofuel] Check Your Beliefs

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Weaver
Joe, I think Bob was being sarcastic - read his post again. Joe Street wrote: Bob; Your comments are surely offensive and ill considered. Move back onto their own territory? Pray tell where is that? Parachuting displaced Jews into the area we call Israel was the first mistake made by the US

Re: [Biofuel] Smacking the hornet's nest

2006-07-20 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Mike, what you are saying is,Palestine was British then? so how it became British?and thas this make the whole thing less hard for the Palestinians? What happened a hundred years ago should not happening anymore today! We came a long way to realize the wrongs of the past but instaed of

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Weaver
Sorry, I was being cheeky, they'll work until the methoxide eats them - of course - I was using an old Dodge pump so YMMV. Jason Katie wrote: well, i can get them for just about free at the boneyard, so i can test and see when or if they blow out, ill let you know what happens when i get

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Joe Street
Hey Tom; My guess on this is it is not so much the pump but the size of the plumbing. I noticed that one particular pump with the same size motor and impeller was offered with 1 or 3/4 inlet and the throughput was almost the same as a smaller pump with standard 3/4 inlet unless you ordered

Re: [Biofuel] Check Your Beliefs

2006-07-20 Thread Joe Street
Not to mention the unecessary use of two atomic bombs on the Japanese. Americans are the only ones ever to massacre human beings with nuclear weapons and yet they deem themselves to be the ones worthy of having them.huh? Joe Hakan Falk wrote: Bob, I forgot about your ethnic forebears

Re: [Biofuel] Check Your Beliefs

2006-07-20 Thread Joe Street
Uh.oh :$ Maybe you're right. Sorry Bob. I love sarcasm but I guess I missed it. Need a coffeelol Joe Mike Weaver wrote: Joe, I think Bob was being sarcastic - read his post again. Joe Street wrote: Bob; Your comments are surely offensive and ill considered. Move back onto

Re: [Biofuel] breakthrough - store CH4 at 500psi instead of 3600

2006-07-20 Thread bob allen
acetylene gas is actually dissolved in acetone, so you dont have a gas but rather a solution. the packing material is simply to keep the liquid from sloshing around. lres1 wrote: I was also under the impression that Acetylene for decades has been kept at reasonable pressures in the

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Weaver
your mileage may vary Joe Street wrote: YMMV ?? (Yes My Mother..???) I'm so out of the loop Mike Weaver wrote: Sorry, I was being cheeky, they'll work until the methoxide eats them - of course - I was using an old Dodge pump so YMMV. Jason Katie wrote: well, i can get them

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Joe Street
YMMV ?? (Yes My Mother..???) I'm so out of the loop Mike Weaver wrote: Sorry, I was being cheeky, they'll work until the methoxide eats them - of course - I was using an old Dodge pump so YMMV. Jason Katie wrote: well, i can get them for just about free at the boneyard, so i

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Kelly
Charles, As Mikw Weaver pointed out, 1 Clearwater pumps are not self-priming. Another way to avoid priming each time is to: Position the pump so that it is level with the bottom of the WVO source and the bottom of the reactor. This allows it to prime by gravity. I pump WVO from a

Re: [Biofuel] breakthrough - store CH4 at 500psi instead of 3600

2006-07-20 Thread John Beale
Water and air filters. Many respirators for working in environments with fumes, etc, have activated carbon in them. And, yes, they have been around for decades, Doug. -John On Jul 20, 2006, at 9:09 AM, bob allen wrote: I did a little hyway driving last weekend in my (really my wife's)

[Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-20 Thread WM LUKE MATHISEN
The waste veg oil (wvo)I collect has three different layers after it settles. A clear (translucent) layer on top and a brown non-translucent layer - that doesn't want to filter - in the middle and then black solids on the bottom. My question is the middle brown layer. It seems - and I havent

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Kelly
Joe, I'll sure you're right. I am using 3/4 fittings. Going to 1 fittings and lines would allow one to break the 90L barrier. Tom - Original Message - From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:28 AM

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-20 Thread doug swanson
I've found that if I leave it in the settling tank longer, it will settle out even more. Smaller water droplets seem to take longer to sink and separate, (or conglomerate with other droplets) when encased in their oil surroundings. I'd use solar if I wanted to heat and retrieve the oil from

Re: [Biofuel] Cause of New Plymouth biodiesel explosion released

2006-07-20 Thread Appal Energy
It's sad to be making any comment on such a matter. Here you had a family that was on the edge of not only doing something great but putting themselves in an enormously better finanacial window to boot. Then the bottom falls out. I don't wish to insinuate anything about the owner/operators.

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Weaver
Tom, what is the name of the slow dry, soft set, pipe thread sealant you use? We are still getting small leaks... Thomas Kelly wrote: Charles, As Mikw Weaver pointed out, 1 Clearwater pumps are not self-priming. Another way to avoid priming each time is to: Position the pump so

[Biofuel] Your Beliefs

2006-07-20 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Not to mention the unecessary use of two atomic bombs on the Japanese. Americans are the only ones ever to massacre human beings with nuclear weapons and yet they deem themselves to be the ones worthy of having them.huh?Joe Hey Joe, you speak my mind thanks Fritz

Re: [Biofuel] Your Beliefs

2006-07-20 Thread John Beale
Not to defend the US government's actions, but if you had the opportunity to be the only one holding the nuclear weapons, wouldn't you want to be? -John On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:50 PM, Fritz Friesinger wrote: Not to mention the unecessary use of two atomic bombs on the Japanese. Americans are

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Weaver
Any advice on 40 gallon batches and a clearwater pump? We haven't used this latest reactor yet - will it have enought power to mix 40 gallons? -Mike Joe Street wrote: Hey Tom; My guess on this is it is not so much the pump but the size of the plumbing. I noticed that one particular pump

Re: [Biofuel] Cause of New Plymouth biodiesel explosion released

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Weaver
It wasn't my intent to be insensitive. This was a case of operator error - a young man didn't realize the danger of methanol fumes and lost his life. Appal Energy wrote: It's sad to be making any comment on such a matter. Here you had a family that was on the edge of not only doing something

Re: [Biofuel] Smacking the hornet's nest

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Weaver
Fritz, 1. No, I said it was then called British Palestine. 2. It was then ruled by the British as part of the British Empire. But, than does not make it British. The people living there were primarily Muslim Arabs, a few Christians and, surprisingly, some Jewish people. 3. I am not saying

Re: [Biofuel] Smacking the hornet's nest

2006-07-20 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Mike, your point,that it was british Palestine and so make things sound,it was not real Palestine! Than,if you say,the Israeli Gvnmt.hade made some mistakes it souns like: everyone is entitled to some Mistakes and so But you are so far of reality as if you would say Hitler made some

Re: [Biofuel] Your Beliefs

2006-07-20 Thread Hakan Falk
John, I do not know, probably not, if I knew the consequences. Many of the scientists that were drafted to do the development, on both sides, were also against it. In war time the people have few choices. Maybe even some politician would be against the development, but they could not grasp

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Joe Street
Hi Mike; I can only speak from my own experience and I haven't used that combination but I have read a fer anecdotes. Sorry but I think you should not get too excited about 40 gallons. You may find that you can only fill that tank to the 25 gallon point with that size plumbing and pump. You

Re: [Biofuel] Your Beliefs

2006-07-20 Thread Joe Street
John; Of course.but that would make me a bit of a fascist wouldn't you say? Joe John Beale wrote: Not to defend the US government's actions, but if you had the opportunity to be the only one holding the nuclear weapons, wouldn't you want to be? -John On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:50

Re: [Biofuel] Smacking the hornet's nest

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Weaver
No. I find your logic hard to follow. I also did not say being called British Palestine made it British. At that time it was ruled by Britain. I never mentioned Hitler nor the Nazis. Yes, I said the government of Israel has made mistakes and will most certainly continue to do so, as will the

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Kelly
Mike, The label says Rectorseal. I think that's the company that makes it. There's a 5 inside a red circle. It says Slow Dry on the left of the 5 and Soft Set on the right. Pipe Thread Sealant is written under the 5. I bought a 4 oz can at Lowe's. Any brush-on pipe dope

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Kelly
Luke, If your WVO was used to cook meat such as chicken, you will have some animal fat which may be causing the middle layer. It will still make excellent warm weather fuel. Of course, it might be water. Heat a small sample to get the water to drop out. Take some of the dried WVO

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: The Force Is Not With Them

2006-07-20 Thread Ken Riznyk
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Ken --- D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BushCo is a paranoid schizo entity. It is based on zero-sum thinking and preference to use force to solve all problems, both at home (intimidation, fear) and abroad (military).

Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice

2006-07-20 Thread Derick Giorchino
No problem I have been making 120 liter batches for 2 years with not one leek or problem. Note I drain the pump after use. Good luck. Derick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Street Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:28 AM To:

Re: [Biofuel] Cause of New Plymouth biodiesel explosion released

2006-07-20 Thread Appal Energy
Actually? I was more in agreement with your sentiments, not deriding your comments. Still, the obvious must be said. Home brew mindsets will not survive if gearing up for commercial outputs. Not saying that the homebrew mindset was the cause of inattention and the accident. But I am saying

Re: [Biofuel] Trash Talk

2006-07-20 Thread Appal Energy
This is a PR piece, with the author being used to represent only a few of the facts. One of these little puppies is in the vicinity of Leesburg, Florida. In order to build it, the owner required a consistent volume of garbage and had the county/municipality agree to the tonnage. Unfortunately,

Re: [Biofuel] Check Your Beliefs

2006-07-20 Thread Bob Molloy
Greetings Hakan, my friend. Apologies for misleading you. And salams to Keith and co also. I don't hold any of those views on either Jews or Germans, I was merely jerking Fritz's chain. And I'm not American, I'm a dumb Irish Mick whose family land

Re: [Biofuel] Check Your Beliefs

2006-07-20 Thread Bob Molloy
Hey guys, It's a war; dirty, messy, cruel, inhuman and unnecessary - unless you happen to be a Palestinian yearning for your land back or an Israeli who's been threatened with annihilation since birth. It's also a war that's been going on since mankind began. It's about land and

Re: [Biofuel] Check Your Beliefs

2006-07-20 Thread MK DuPree
Hi Bob...thanks for the history lesson. Now that Warren Buffet has invested in Israel (a tool company?? if so, I'm sure it must be tools for working in the garden...yeah right) and Newt Gingrich (spelling?) has decided to call this WWIII (and others have decided to grow this image), this time