, 2005 10:45
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Burning glycerol
for heat / Acrolein
How about combining the glycerin with nitrogen to create
nitroglycerin? I know, nitrogen is explosive but so is hydrogen.
The engines in our vehicles are using what is called "explosion
propulsion".
How about combining the glycerin with nitrogen to
create nitroglycerin? I know, nitrogen is
explosive but so is hydrogen.
Nitro-glycerine is a high explosive; the shock wave
expands faster than the speed of sound. Not a good idea inside an enclosed
space. Chris.
Wessex Ferret
Great. NOW you tell me.
Chris Lloyd wrote:
How about combining the glycerin with nitrogen to create
nitroglycerin? I know, nitrogen is explosive but so is hydrogen.
Nitro-glycerine is a high explosive; the shock wave expands faster
than the speed of sound. Not a good idea inside an
with internal combustion
engines.
Chris Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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07/19/2005 07:58 AM
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How about combining the glycerin
Hi Rob
ok so this thread has drifted quite far from my original inquiry.
Sorry about that.
I was looking for specific, or even close estimates, of the acrolein
emissions from glycerol burning in an open flame boiler/burner
unit..not for its use as a motor fuel, or its combination with
Thanks Keith,
Well I have a few thoughts on the burning...
I WAS hoping I could burn it in a Turk style (perhaps scaled up) burner, to
heat water for various process uses..but I am concerned with the emissions...
Another idea is to offload it to someone already in the pollution business
LOL
all jokes aside, though, that's actually an interesting idea. if it were
possible to keep the N and glycerine separate, and inject them into
the cylinder
where they would combine, then explode. . . .
of course, there's the question of how energy efficient this would be (i'm
assuming it
How about using nitrox, as in used in recreational diving? I suppose
that there is a need for energy to combine the nitrogen with the
glycerin, to make the chemical reaction happen. Maybe carry 2 tanks (one
of glycerin and one of nitrox)? There might be a pre-combustion chamber
where a spark
Who knows, I might be right next to you. ;-)
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r wrote:
How about using nitrox,
nope, it won't work. Nitrox is just a mixture of oxygen and nitrogen
with more oxygen than a normal atmosphere. to make nitroglycerin
(actually easy) one need only combine fuming
hi rich.
i'm not a chemist or engineer. anything beyond the very general and
hypothetical comments i made previously are beyond me. this line of inquiry
raises so
many questions which i really don't consider myself competent to comment on
(and therefore didn't).
keith is right about how
ok so this thread has drifted quite far from my original inquiry.
I was looking for specific, or even close estimates, of the acrolein
emissions from glycerol burning in an open flame boiler/burner unit..not
for its use as a motor fuel, or its combination with nitrogen.
-Rob
At 01:58 PM
r wrote:
How about using nitrox,
nope, it won't work. Nitrox is just a mixture of oxygen and nitrogen
with more oxygen than a normal atmosphere. to make nitroglycerin
(actually easy) one need only combine fuming nitric, fuming sulfuric,
and glycerin in the correct proportions, while
The chemical kinetics of fire is not understood very well. Smoking a cigarette will produce thousands of intermediate radicals, which will lead to thousands of end products, many of which are harmful. Altering temperature and other variables will lead to different end products. So unless you have
How about combining the glycerin with nitrogen to create
nitroglycerin? I know, nitrogen is explosive but so is hydrogen. The
engines in our vehicles are using what is called "explosion
propulsion". Exploding fuel pushes against pistons which are linked
to a shaft, which is linked to the
nitrogen is explosive? .. crap. no one lite a match... lol... the
earths atmosphere is 78.084% nitrogen
Ray J
r wrote:
How about combining the glycerin with nitrogen to create
nitroglycerin? I know, nitrogen is explosive but so is hydrogen. The
engines in our vehicles are using
LOL
all jokes aside, though, that's actually an interesting idea. if it were
possible to keep the N and glycerine separate, and inject them into the
cylinder
where they would combine, then explode. . . .
of course, there's the question of how energy efficient this would be (i'm
assuming it
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Mike[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOLall jokes aside, though, that's actually an interesting idea. if it were possible to keep the N and
it's not.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOLall jokes aside, though, that's actually an interesting idea. if it were possible to keep the N and glycerine separate, and inject them into the cylinder where they would combine, then explode. . . .of course, there's the question of how energy efficient this
Hello all,
I am considering the use of my glycerol coproduct as a burner fuel for
process heat generation (indirect via boiler).
My glycerol generated while running 20% methanol is of very low viscosity
(mostly likely due to the excess methanol), and seems quite usable. This
may be more
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