Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-14 Thread Keith Addison
David, Whoever would dump their byproducts is a fool, most of the methanol can be recovered, and the glycerine can be digested (see: http://www.journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/MethaneDigesters/MD6.html ) and i'll bet you a dollar that you can use the white greasy junk from bad batches as a

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-14 Thread logan vilas
. - Original Message - From: Michael Luich To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers? Care to share the plans?Mike Luich On 10/13/05, logan vilas [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-14 Thread Michael Luich
approved and have a electriction wire it into place. Logan Vilas Bio-Fuel Enterprises, Inc. - Original Message - From: Michael Luich To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-14 Thread logan vilas
to make this. Logan Vilas Bio-Fuel Enterprises, Inc. - Original Message - From: Jason and Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers? Damn Logan, this is a tremendous idea

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-14 Thread Jason and Katie
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which stage do you think we're at by now, we backyard biofuels homebrewing tinkers? For one thing we're brewing up millions and millions of gallons of fuel all over the world, who cares about manufacturers? Local vs central?

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-13 Thread logan vilas
, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers? Bobby Clark wrote: I'm slowly starting to think of it, but I'm not convinced yet. I think most people who do it do it mostly as a way of not using petro-diesel much more than to save money. I doubt I'd save much on fuel

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hello David Bobby Clark wrote: Why are there not a lot of people manufacturing biodiesel? Is it because that petro diesel is cheaper? It seems that I have seen estimates of between $2-$3 per gallon if you make it from virgin oil. If it burns cleaner (which it does) then why aren't

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-13 Thread Michael Luich
12, 2005 4:05 PMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers? Bobby Clark wrote: I'm slowly starting to think of it, but I'm not convinced yet. I think most people who do it do it mostly as a way of not using petro-diesel much more than to save money. I doubt I'd save much on fuel

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hello David snip Forgot this bit... I also wonder what people are really doing with the leftover glycerine and wash water with excess methanol. I suspect a lot of both get dumped, as do batches that just go bad. I don't know that, but would be interested to hear from those actually making BD

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-13 Thread David Miller
Keith Addison wrote: Hello David snip Forgot this bit... I also wonder what people are really doing with the leftover glycerine and wash water with excess methanol. I suspect a lot of both get dumped, as do batches that just go bad. I don't know that, but would be interested to hear from

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-13 Thread Jason and Katie
David, Whoever would dump their byproducts is a fool, most of the methanol can be recovered, and the glycerine can be digested (see: http://www.journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/MethaneDigesters/MD6.html ) and i'll bet you a dollar that you can use the white greasy junk from bad batches as a

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-13 Thread Jason and Katie
Damn Logan, this is a tremendous idea! i had known about boneyard turbine engines for a while, but i hadnt ever put the idea of glyceine to it yet. this is fantastic. i have a recommendation though. why dont you use a gas water heater tank instead of a drum? it already has the baffles for

[Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-12 Thread Bobby Clark
Why are there not a lot of people manufacturing biodiesel? Is it because that petro diesel is cheaper? It seems that I have seen estimates of between $2-$3 per gallon if you make it from virgin oil. If it burns cleaner (which it does) then why aren't manufacturers taking advantage of this

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-12 Thread Zeke Yewdall
For the big refiners, I think the answer is obvious -- political inertia But for small refiners or starups, the biggest reason I can think of it the capital and time required to bring a plant on line. Who wants to lend a few million to a small entrepenuer to produce biodiesel when all the

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-12 Thread David Miller
Bobby Clark wrote: Why are there not a lot of people manufacturing biodiesel? Is it because that petro diesel is cheaper? It seems that I have seen estimates of between $2-$3 per gallon if you make it from virgin oil. If it burns cleaner (which it does) then why aren't manufacturers taking