Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-10 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Actually, if you can show the local health inspector the records of the temperature of your compost, he has no problem with it. Bright Blessings, Kim girl_mark_fire wrote: Don't forget about methane digesters and human (or animal, vegetable, or anything in between) waste. Someone in my

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread girl_mark_fire
I'd vote for copper for a few reasons too (though if you ever see a copper mine you might think I'm the devil for recommending this. Check out the Phelps-Dodge copper mine in Clifton-Morency (?) Arizona for one- I think it;s the biggest open pit copper mine in the us or in the world or

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread girl_mark_fire
Don't forget about methane digesters and human (or animal, vegetable, or anything in between) waste. Someone in my social circle apparently replaced their (urban) bathroom toilet with a marine macerator toilet which pumps the human waste into a methane digester- which produces gas (and

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread murdoch
influencing people (which she was VERY good at). So she had some place that she went to up on the hillside somewhere, I'd see her going off there sometimes but never figured just where it was. I'm sure any dog is capable of learning such things. Apparently, she didn't just learn such a thing.

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread vern_hendershott
Many dogs can be taught to do their business in the prescribed place much like cats that have been taught to use the human facilities. The problem that I have not seen solved is one of a flushing system that works in a facility that would resemble a shower stall to accommodate both gender of

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM influencing people (which she was VERY good at). So she had some place that she went to up on the hillside somewhere, I'd see her going off there sometimes but never figured just where it was. I'm sure any dog is capable of learning such things. Apparently, she didn't just learn such

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread motie_d
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked a plumber today what he would look for in buying a new house. He said: 1. No slab dwellings with plumbing built-in (apparently a going- strong method around here) because when the plumbing goes bad, how do you

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Doug Foskey
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 19:31, you wrote: Many dogs can be taught to do their business in the prescribed place much like cats that have been taught to use the human facilities. The problem that I have not seen solved is one of a flushing system that works in a facility that would resemble a shower

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Hakan Falk
I sometimes joke about this, Dogs are like men, they have to be trained to keep clean and we all know how difficult that is. Cats are like women, they have an instinct of keeping them nice and clean. You will only have to have a box of sand and they will use it without training, as long as you

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread murdoch
Maybe. Considering all the lab tests with rats and so on where they have to pull a lever or something to get food once they've been good little rats and done what they're supposed to, it shouldn't be too hard to get a dog to step on a flush lever once it's done. Preferably into a composting

RE: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread kirk
H. I know some people who could use a box of sand. Thanks for the suggestion Hakan. Kirk -Original Message- From: Hakan Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 5:54 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing I sometimes

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Greg and April
. - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 23:25 Subject: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing So long as I'm on that topic, another toilet-related-one is that I've been hanging out with a friend who has

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Greg and April
, March 09, 2003 00:57 Subject: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing PVC is nonrecyclable- and the production process for making vinyl is toxic to plant workers and the immediate environment where it's produced (though that is also be true for copper, I don't know how it all stacks up of course

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Greg and April
How about a simple photocell, timer, and solenoid valve setup, like they have in some restrooms at some airports? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 02:10 Subject: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-08 Thread murdoch
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 00:18:43 -0800, you wrote: oops meant Polyethylene pipe... - Original *** Is quest that poly butynol (sp) flexible pipe simiar to what you find behind refrigerator as water /ice makers lines? I think he did say

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-08 Thread murdoch
this soon, for one. What do you heat it with, anyway - preferably biogas maybe, or a WVO burner? Post just in about treating the wash-water, also a plumbing subject - or rather less plumbing (use a graywater system). Distilling fuel ethanol requires cooling water, again a plumbing matter. And

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM this soon, for one. What do you heat it with, anyway - preferably biogas maybe, or a WVO burner? Post just in about treating the wash-water, also a plumbing subject - or rather less plumbing (use a graywater system). Distilling fuel ethanol requires cooling water, again a plumbing