Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-28 Thread Doug Younker
of renewable plants, but I don't know of any substitutes for the lumber products forest's can supply Doug - Original Message - From: jeff younkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees : Forrests need TLC

RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-28 Thread Dan Volker
to mature is also a poor choice for harvesting. Dan V -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Younker Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees But from what I can tell

RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-27 Thread Peggy
: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees Howdy Kieth and Jemery and Tracy, Again I am going to stick to my guns: vide infra Keith Addison wrote: Jeremy Tracy Longworth wrote: Trees injured by the felling of neighboring ones are left to become infected by pathogen. These infected trees then produce

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-27 Thread Greg Harbican
: RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees So what is the use of experience and an education? I will consider evaluating the forest service's ideas. Peggy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel

RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-27 Thread Peggy
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Harbican Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees Just that Peggy. You use your experience and education to consider the information given

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-27 Thread Keith Addison
Bob, the only thing that matters is whether its nutritional status is sound or not, for whatever reason. If it's not sound, it will be attacked by pathogens (ie pests, of whatever ilk), but even if you protect it, the plant won't be able to set good seed anyway, it just won't have the

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-27 Thread jeff younkin
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Harbican Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees Just that Peggy. You use your experience and education to consider the information

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-27 Thread Greg Harbican
they are. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 20:38 Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees The feeling of driving through a burned forest and a logged forest are both disenchanting. The goals and motives

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-26 Thread Keith Addison
Trees injured by the felling of neighboring ones are left to become infected by pathogen. These infected trees then produce inferior seed which then grow into inferior stock. Whoa, sure sounds like a Lamarkian hypothesis to me!So if I cut the tail off my dog, she will have puppies

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-26 Thread bob allen
guns: vide infra Keith Addison wrote: Jeremy Tracy Longworth wrote: Trees injured by the felling of neighboring ones are left to become infected by pathogen. These infected trees then produce inferior seed which then grow into inferior stock. Whoa, sure sounds like a Lamarkian

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-25 Thread bob allen
Trees injured by the felling of neighboring ones are left to become infected by pathogen. These infected trees then produce inferior seed which then grow into inferior stock. Whoa, sure sounds like a Lamarkian hypothesis to me!So if I cut the tail off my dog, she will have

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-24 Thread Jeremy Tracy Longworth
Hello, I am an Arborist (tree care specialist) and have done research on our renewable resource trees. In the logging industry large stands of wood with little to no pathogen (mineral trace) bring the highest dollar amount. Whereas spindly, scrawny, weakling trees are of little to no

RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-24 Thread Peggy
be a wise use of a waste resource. Thanks for the clarification and your expertise. Can you also give us some reference material? Thanks, Peggy Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees Hello, I am an Arborist (tree care specialist) and have done research on our renewable resource trees

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-23 Thread George Smiley
PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 1:00 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees Hi George, How is it that both state forestry people and federal forestry people have a different view? It has been repeated again and again within the areas that suffer the most forest fires

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-22 Thread George Smiley
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees Hello Peggy. Go to the following web page and you'll find every thing 1976 to present db for (cellulosic AND ethanol): 7284 US patents. http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2

RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-22 Thread Peggy
of methanol from the forest slash. Best wishes, Peggy Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees These people use the same arguments that set us up in Canada and Australia and god knows where else for the woodchippers. That these little spindly, generally rewgrowth trees are useless, and here is a heaven

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-22 Thread Greg Harbican
] Methanol from Trees When reviewing the potential contracts for thinning, I have not seen any mention of herbicides, pesticides, or fertilizers to maintain a sustainable system. Many of the areas are re-growth areas that were involved in previous fire zones. Also, re-planting accelerates re

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-21 Thread Hans Etienne Parisis
=lignocellulose+AND+ethanolRS=(lignocellulose+AND+ethanol Hans - Original Message - From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:31 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees It is possible to turn the cellulosic biomass into fuel ethanol

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-21 Thread Hans Etienne Parisis
Ethanol From Cellulose: A General Review http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/v5-017.html Hans - Original Message - From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:31 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees It is possible to turn

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-21 Thread Guag Meister
:31 Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees It is possible to turn the cellulosic biomass into fuel ethanol instead of methanol. Peggy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-21 Thread Greg Harbican
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 18:21 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees Hi Greg and All ; I have been reading with interest this thread. Does anyone have any specific process conditions for converting wood into methanol. I read somewhere that pyrolysis at normal

RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-20 Thread Peggy
It is possible to turn the cellulosic biomass into fuel ethanol instead of methanol. Peggy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Harbican Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-20 Thread Greg Harbican
. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:31 Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees It is possible to turn the cellulosic biomass into fuel ethanol instead of methanol. Peggy

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-17 Thread Greg Harbican
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 12:04 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees Hi Greg I have seen the Alternatives to Fossil Fueled Engine/Generators , before, but to me it looked like a guess work mixed with facts. I liked the looks of the alternative

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-17 Thread damiandolan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:00 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees Greg Harbican wrote: I really hope this is a technology that can be scaled down for home use. I have several trees ( and bushes ) in my yard that are causing

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-16 Thread Greg Harbican
] Methanol from Trees Greg Harbican wrote: I really hope this is a technology that can be scaled down for home use. I have several trees ( and bushes ) in my yard that are causing problems, that I would like to turn into Methanol. Greg H. I happened to see your reply in the archives

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-16 Thread Keith Addison
Greg H. - Original Message - From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:00 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees Greg Harbican wrote: I really hope this is a technology that can be scaled down for home use. I have several trees

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-15 Thread MH
Greg Harbican wrote: I really hope this is a technology that can be scaled down for home use. I have several trees ( and bushes ) in my yard that are causing problems, that I would like to turn into Methanol. Greg H. I happened to see your reply in the archives. There was something

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-13 Thread Greg Harbican
I really hope this is a technology that can be scaled down for home use. I have several trees ( and bushes ) in my yard that are causing problems, that I would like to turn into Methanol. Greg H. - Original Message - From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,