Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-21 Thread John Guttridge
again. I will post the results when done. John Keith Addison wrote: Thankyou John. I hope this discussion can resume now. Best wishes Keith Addison List owner to todd and the list in general, I would like to sincerely apologize for allowing myself to get involved in this flame war. It

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-20 Thread John P Gochoco
) - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test Hello John Actually, it takes a brave man to tell a few home truths to John Tillman (aka tillyfromparadise, aka

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-20 Thread John Guttridge
common sense and stick somewhere close to the middle of what's known to work. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: John Guttridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test Resending

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-20 Thread Appal Energy
you're primary interest is. Good day. - Original Message - From: John Guttridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test todd, Appal Energy wrote: John, I don't know why you find

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-20 Thread Keith Addison
another John) :-) A fine name, to be sure. Best wishes Keith - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test Hello John Actually, it takes a brave

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-20 Thread John Guttridge
I would like to sincerely apologize for allowing myself to get involved in this flame war. It was inappropriate and not at all constructive. Further I apologize for my use of inappropriate language. I still have unanswered questions that I hope I can get answered here. I will continue to

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-20 Thread Keith Addison
I hope this discussion can resume now. Best wishes Keith Addison List owner to todd and the list in general, I would like to sincerely apologize for allowing myself to get involved in this flame war. It was inappropriate and not at all constructive. Further I apologize for my use of

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-19 Thread Appal Energy
PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test Resending the following because I am unsure if it was caught in the outage: Understood. I will produce a batch large enough to make several runs at the 150mL test and post the results. I consumed the remains of my last test

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-19 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test John, I still think that temperature has a drastic effect on seperation time And you're correct

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-19 Thread John Guttridge
close to the middle of what's known to work. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: John Guttridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test Resending the following because I am

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-19 Thread Appal Energy
occupants fuzzy and comfortable. - Original Message - From: John Guttridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 1:28 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test Todd, sorry to have stuck a sore spot with you, please stop taking

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-19 Thread Keith Addison
Actually, it takes a brave man to tell a few home truths to John Tillman (aka tillyfromparadise, aka about 30 false IDs created to give the impression of group support) - you run the risk of precipitating a tireless, relentless, truly mindless, vicious and utterly integrity-free hate war

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-19 Thread Keith Addison
G'day all; - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test John, I still think that temperature has a drastic effect on seperation time

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-18 Thread John Guttridge
not really trying to say that keith has made a mistake on his site. instead I was asking for more information on how to conduct the test in a reproducible manner. I have a lot of respect for keith and what he does. you seem to lack that and I would be interested to understand why. I think

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-18 Thread John Guttridge
the 70*F batch was mostly separated within about 5-10 minutes but didn't really reach completion until the end of 25 minutes. thirty seconds to a minute??? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality says Then let it settle. The biodiesel should separate from the water in

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-18 Thread Appal Energy
, 2004 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test Todd, the 70*F batch was mostly separated within about 5-10 minutes but didn't really reach completion until the end of 25 minutes. thirty seconds to a minute??? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-18 Thread John Guttridge
be neared or met in a meticulous homebrewer's environment. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: John Guttridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test Todd, the 70*F batch

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-17 Thread Appal Energy
It is reproducable if you use larger volumes than the 8 ml total volume that you're using. A couple of fluid ounces would be more appropriate. The method suggests ~150 ml, or approximately five fluid ounces. If you're not getting anything resembling a clean separation for 25 minutes using