[biofuels-biz] Public Money in the Pipeline

2003-01-11 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2003/02/ma_216_01.html Public Money in the Pipeline When ExxonMobil and BP need millions to pay for their oil projects, who do they turn to? The U.S. government. By Daphne Eviatar January/February 2003 Issue The pipeline will begin on the outskirts of

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Public Money in the Pipeline

2003-01-11 Thread murdoch
The Baku pipeline is hardly an isolated example. Under the energy plan developed by Vice President Dick Cheney, the Bush administration is financing a growing number of overseas projects for private oil companies. In theory, the money provided by two U.S. agencies -- the Export-Import Bank

[biofuels-biz] waste oil burners burning glycerine, ffa's Re: [biofuel] Re: biodiesel vs. propane for heating

2003-01-11 Thread girl mark
I looked up a few of those commercial oil burners for use with WVO. Sounds pretty interesting, though pricey... something to try and find secondhand, maybe? Then I got an email from a farmer nearby, someone who grows oil crops, asking about biodiesel production for on-farm use, and about

[biofuels-biz] RE: Response on Open letter to Mr. Sam Kazman about SUV interview at CNN.

2003-01-11 Thread Hakan Falk
January 9, 2003, Open letter to Sam Kazman http://energy.saving.nu/biofuels/kazman.shtml (Sam Kazman's response to the open letter at the end of this mail.) Dear Sam Kazman, It is nice to hear from you and get a chance to understand on what basis you constructed your opinion, even if you did

[biofuel] RE:Ag subsidies

2003-01-11 Thread Crabb, David
I would think that instead of having agricultural subsidies, or paying people NOT to grow things on their land, that we should instead get subsidize them to crow biofuel on their land. Or agree to pay $X per amount of product., if you still want to keep the price of soybeans up. Paying somone

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 1308

2003-01-11 Thread Crabb, David
Hmm yes, I guess so. I just dont see how the world would stand for something to be just taken like oil. I just dont believe it. If not for the only reason that the 'other' countries would be angry that they are not getting any of the 'free' oil. What i *will* accept and believe is that oil

RE: [biofuel] big fat tax write off

2003-01-11 Thread Crabb, David
Hmm I was not aware of any specific cars where you get extra money other than if its hybrid, EV etc Unfortunately, I did not see any reference to this 'list' The only reason i can see being that some large SUVs being sold would help specific companies maintain business. Heh,, perhaps there

RE: [biofuel] doo doo

2003-01-11 Thread Crabb, David
Nice verbage, but it really says nothing other than 'I'm right.. you're not'.. and takes a long time to do it. So tell me, whom are we bombing to rape their resources? Afghanistan? I suppose that is a flimsy excuse we facricated the WTC attacks so that we can waste our time and spend money

RE: [biofuel] doo doo

2003-01-11 Thread Keith Addison
Sorry Mr Crabb that you trod in the doo doo. Nice verbage, but it really says nothing other than 'I'm right.. you're not'.. and takes a long time to do it. Okay, if that's the way you want it. Sigh... I knew you'd be wasting my time, and others' here. Why do you say takes a long time to do

RE: [biofuel] doo doo

2003-01-11 Thread kirk
So tell me, whom are we bombing to rape their resources? Afghanistan? I suppose that is a flimsy excuse we facricated the WTC attacks so that we can waste our time and spend money there for nothing. Tell me David, how many Afghani were involved in 9-11. Weren't they mostly Saudi? Are we bombing

Re: [biofuel] RE:Ag subsidies

2003-01-11 Thread malcolm.scott
- Original Message - From: Doug Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] RE:Ag subsidies On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 07:25, you wrote: I would think that instead of having agricultural subsidies, or paying people

Re: [biofuel] RE:Ag subsidies

2003-01-11 Thread Doug Foskey
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 07:25, you wrote: I would think that instead of having agricultural subsidies, or paying people NOT to grow things on their land, that we should instead get subsidize them to crow biofuel on their land. Or agree to pay $X per amount of product., if you still want to keep

RE: [biofuel] diesel gen

2003-01-11 Thread Darryl McMahon
Why would the generator be physically in-line with the motor? The function of a diesel generator is to produce electricity. As long as the electricity is fed to the electric motor (dual shaft or not), and the electric motor is driving the transmission, I don't see the need for the mechanical

[biofuel] Public Money in the Pipeline

2003-01-11 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2003/02/ma_216_01.html Public Money in the Pipeline When ExxonMobil and BP need millions to pay for their oil projects, who do they turn to? The U.S. government. By Daphne Eviatar January/February 2003 Issue The pipeline will begin on the outskirts of

[biofuel] Bio fuel stove

2003-01-11 Thread fuels2010 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi I'm new to the group . I'm look for imforation about bio fuel stoves to heat a home,shop, greenhouse.Can I use bio fuel in a fuel oil furnuse. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send

Re: [biofuel] Public Money in the Pipeline

2003-01-11 Thread murdoch
The Baku pipeline is hardly an isolated example. Under the energy plan developed by Vice President Dick Cheney, the Bush administration is financing a growing number of overseas projects for private oil companies. In theory, the money provided by two U.S. agencies -- the Export-Import Bank

waste oil burners burning glycerine, ffa's Re: [biofuel] Re: biodiesel vs. propane for heating

2003-01-11 Thread girl mark
I looked up a few of those commercial oil burners for use with WVO. Sounds pretty interesting, though pricey... something to try and find secondhand, maybe? Then I got an email from a farmer nearby, someone who grows oil crops, asking about biodiesel production for on-farm use, and about

Re: [biofuel] Public Money in the Pipeline

2003-01-11 Thread malcolm.scott
- Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Public Money in the Pipeline The Baku pipeline is hardly an isolated example. Under the energy plan

[biofuel] Re: RE:Ag subsidies

2003-01-11 Thread motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Crabb, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would think that instead of having agricultural subsidies, or paying people NOT to grow things on their land, that we should instead get subsidize them to grow biofuel on their land. I disagree with subsidies in general.

[biofuel] RE: Response on Open letter to Mr. Sam Kazman about SUV interview at CNN.

2003-01-11 Thread Hakan Falk
January 9, 2003, Open letter to Sam Kazman http://energy.saving.nu/biofuels/kazman.shtml (Sam Kazman's response to the open letter at the end of this mail.) Dear Sam Kazman, It is nice to hear from you and get a chance to understand on what basis you constructed your opinion, even if you did