Re: [Biofuel] it looks like soapy milk facts
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:52:47 -0500, Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I attribute this mainly to the fact that 1) it was cold in the reactor room 2) I used NaOH not KOH as a catalyst and mixed with the cold temps had solidified. I followed exactly the same procedure in the warmer months, titration the same, 5gr/liter, same WVO and everythinig was fine. Excuse me if I missed it before, but this is the first time I note that you changed catalyst for this last batch of yours. What are the consequences of using too much NaOH? from: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#lye KOH is not as strong as NaOH -- use 1.4 times as much KOH (actually 1.4025 times). Titration is the same, just use a 0.1% KOH solution instead of NaOH solution, and use 1 gm of KOH for every milliliter of 0.1% solution used in the titration. But instead of the basic 3.5 grams of NaOH lye per liter of oil, use 3.5 x 1.4 = 4.9 grams of KOH. So, if your titration was 5 ml, use 5 + 4.9 = 9.9 gm KOH per liter of oil. On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 09:56 AM, Handel Callender wrote: the extra lye is to neutralise the FFA's. Too little leaves unchanged FFA's and too much NaOH re-attacks the biodiesel that has been formed, splits the molecule again and makes excess soap. All this is determined in the titration, which we want to get between 8 and 9 as the pH level. Ray Ings ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Different weather, was Donation Info
Is this climate change? Here in Toronto my brothers and sister and I always went tobogganing on Christmas Eve, that was our happy ritual, year after year, under the stars. Then one year, and it was easily twenty years ago, there wasn't really very much snow, but we went anyway. I was skeptical, surveying the slope from the top, and decided not to go down. My sister said she hadn't hauled the toboggan all the way up here for nothing, hopped on, and went down alone. The sled stopped cold at the bottom of the moonlit hill and in the impact, my sister had broken her back. We've not had a white Christmas since, either, though our enthusiasm for tobogganing isn't what it used to be. Bewildering, but maybe this sort of climate change is normal. What's the lifespan of a polar bear hunting his iceflow, or a Canada Goose migrating with visual cues? Adaptation is quick for some species. Jesse From: Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:52:21 -0500 To: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Donation Info Hallo Keith, Again, no thanks necessary. This is a pure pleasure for me. Just to let the list know, there have been 14 responses (which includes me) to date. Some are those I would expect to respond but some are lurkers which is nice. It is always nice to know that there are those out there who appreciate a good and worthwhile effort such as this list and JtF. I expect that after the holidays we will be getting more response from others. I think that at this time of the year there are holidays nearly worldwide. Were I not a religious person I would still be thankful for the cold quiet and beauty of winter which gives the land a time of rest and stillness, at least in the northern climates. Winter is my favorite time of year. I do miss the snow we once had when I was a child. We have hardly been able to ski for the last 15 years or so unless we went farther north. When I was younger we had the snow from November through to sometimes mid-March.There is something very restful about going out in the dark and checking up on and caring for the animals. Nothing quite beats the cold, quiet, peaceful winter night. Then after seeing that they have sufficient food and water to get them through the night one is able to come into the house, load the wood into the furnace for the night, and enjoy the warmth and rest. I wish you all of whatever tradition the best of the season and I wish the same for my brothers and sisters who do not have a religious tradition. We are all one. Happy Happy, Gustl ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test
again. I will post the results when done. John Keith Addison wrote: Thankyou John. I hope this discussion can resume now. Best wishes Keith Addison List owner to todd and the list in general, I would like to sincerely apologize for allowing myself to get involved in this flame war. It was inappropriate and not at all constructive. Further I apologize for my use of inappropriate language. I still have unanswered questions that I hope I can get answered here. I will continue to post the results of my tests in the hope that they will further the goal of making the production of high quality biodiesel accessible to all. Sincerely, John Guttridge ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Happy Humbug was Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Donation Info
restful about going out in the dark and checking up on and caring for the animals. Reckon that's why they call it husbandry. Happy Humbug to all and to all a good night. :-) - Original Message - From: Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:52 PM Subject: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Donation Info Hallo Keith, Again, no thanks necessary. This is a pure pleasure for me. Just to let the list know, there have been 14 responses (which includes me) to date. Some are those I would expect to respond but some are lurkers which is nice. It is always nice to know that there are those out there who appreciate a good and worthwhile effort such as this list and JtF. I expect that after the holidays we will be getting more response from others. I think that at this time of the year there are holidays nearly worldwide. Were I not a religious person I would still be thankful for the cold quiet and beauty of winter which gives the land a time of rest and stillness, at least in the northern climates. Winter is my favorite time of year. I do miss the snow we once had when I was a child. We have hardly been able to ski for the last 15 years or so unless we went farther north. When I was younger we had the snow from November through to sometimes mid-March.There is something very restful about going out in the dark and checking up on and caring for the animals. Nothing quite beats the cold, quiet, peaceful winter night. Then after seeing that they have sufficient food and water to get them through the night one is able to come into the house, load the wood into the furnace for the night, and enjoy the warmth and rest. I wish you all of whatever tradition the best of the season and I wish the same for my brothers and sisters who do not have a religious tradition. We are all one. Happy Happy, Gustl Monday, 20 December, 2004, 00:46:07, you wrote: KA Hello Gustl KA Thank you so much once again for taking this task upon yourself. KA Thankyou also to the many list members who've written and offered KA support and encouragement. I believe we'll manage to solve the list's KA problems now, thanks to the list itself. That's great, and it adds KA another very solid dimension to my saying in the past that it's not KA *my* list as sometimes alleged, it belongs to the members. Good, KA excellent. ...snip... -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknevicius's question)
I have no idea. But, I would be surprised. I wouldn't. http://ishgooda.org/nuclear/nuke1.htm - Original Message - From: Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknevicius's question) I have no idea. But, I would be surprised. Mike Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the burning of wood also cause radioactive emissions? POC Citizens for the inherent dignity and worth of the human person Quoted words from UDHR/CAT On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Michael Redler wrote: This question goes back to November. But, I thought you might find it interesting. Mike Jack Stanford wrote: From: Jack Stanford To: Michael Redler CC: Beth Bennett , Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:22:51 -0500 Mike, I am cleaning my inbox. In case I did not reply to this... Coal fired power plants could NOT be licensed as nuclear plants because the stack radioactive emissions are TOO HIGH! Maybe Thorium but I know that Radium is a big contributor. This has been established fact for MANY years. Go figure. Jack - Original Message - From: Michael Redler To: Jack Stanford Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:38 AM Subject: Fwd: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal Hi Jack, What do you think...? I thought this was interesting (and surprising). Mike Tomas Juknevicius wrote: Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:11:13 +0200 From: Tomas Juknevicius To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal Hi folks, I've read one interesting factoid recently. It was stated, that the nuclear power plant produces less radioactive material (per kWh generated) than the coal power plant (which emits radioactive particles through the smokestack - mostly thorium IIRC) Maybe someone has more information/links about this? -- Tomas Juknevicius ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknevicius's question)
Wow! I am really surprised at that. ...very interesting! [Further testing of wood ash across the U.S. suggests] that fallout in wood ash 'is a major source of radioactivity released into the environment... Thank you for the enlightenment. Mike Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the burning of wood also cause radioactive emissions? I have no idea. But, I would be surprised. I wouldn't. http://ishgooda.org/nuclear/nuke1.htm - Original Message - From: Michael Redler To: Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknevicius's question) I have no idea. But, I would be surprised. Mike Party of Citizens wrote: Does the burning of wood also cause radioactive emissions? POC Citizens for the inherent dignity and worth of the human person Quoted words from UDHR/CAT On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Michael Redler wrote: This question goes back to November. But, I thought you might find it interesting. Mike Jack Stanford wrote: From: Jack Stanford To: Michael Redler CC: Beth Bennett , Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:22:51 -0500 Mike, I am cleaning my inbox. In case I did not reply to this... Coal fired power plants could NOT be licensed as nuclear plants because the stack radioactive emissions are TOO HIGH! Maybe Thorium but I know that Radium is a big contributor. This has been established fact for MANY years. Go figure. Jack - Original Message - From: Michael Redler To: Jack Stanford Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:38 AM Subject: Fwd: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal Hi Jack, What do you think...? I thought this was interesting (and surprising). Mike Tomas Juknevicius wrote: Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:11:13 +0200 From: Tomas Juknevicius To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal Hi folks, I've read one interesting factoid recently. It was stated, that the nuclear power plant produces less radioactive material (per kWh generated) than the coal power plant (which emits radioactive particles through the smokestack - mostly thorium IIRC) Maybe someone has more information/links about this? -- Tomas Juknevicius ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] I need filters
Hi all, Ive been looking to find a inline pre filter for my diesel benz in which I can replace the filter element but have had trouble finding diesel fuel filters and was wondering if anyone knows where I can get one. Also I found some 100 micron strainers that i plan on getting to pre filter the WVO, does anyone have any experience with these? Also does anyone have any special filters to do a final filtering of the biodiesel before it goes into the tank (like 10 microns or less). Thanks, Theo Chadzichristos ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Silent Night, Deadly Night
Not only did our state department refuse extradition of Warren Anderson they put an enormous amount of political pressure on India to drop its suit and investigation. Ken Did you expect anything better? -- Martin K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknevicius's question)
background count is not what it was in 1944 Not much is what it was in 1944. And all the fallout from decades of testing will keep being recycled until their half-lives are halved out. Guess it's a good thing that few people leach their caustic for soap making out of their wood ashes anymore. Nothing like upping the ante on exposure levels by soaping down with radioactive soap, or wearing work duds that have been scoured clean with same. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:37 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknevicius's question) It is just recycling material on the ground. The background count is not what it was in 1944 Better living through science. Kirk --- Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! I am really surprised at that. ...very interesting! [Further testing of wood ash across the U.S. suggests] that fallout in wood ash 'is a major source of radioactivity released into the environment... Thank you for the enlightenment. Mike Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the burning of wood also cause radioactive emissions? I have no idea. But, I would be surprised. I wouldn't. http://ishgooda.org/nuclear/nuke1.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Different weather, was Donation Info
Normal, perhaps, but it doesn't feel normal. My home lies within, or I guess I should say under, what was until quite recently a major flyway for several species of migratory birds. Chief among them, however, is the Canada goose. Like clockwork, with the arrival of cooler weather, we could see them, and of course hear them, noisily making their way south for the winter. For my family, it was part of the changing of the seasons. Not a separate event, but integrated, something we had come to expect I guess. For the first time, this year, I can count the number of flights of Canada geese that I personally saw, on one hand. For my family, that's devastating news. Is this change a result of a larger global shift in weather patterns? I, personally, have no way of knowing, and at the end of the day, don't really care. Do I want things to change back to the way they were so that my and I could once again hear the off-key honking of the wonderfully noisy Canada goose? No, I don't. We have had our time, and we now have beautiful memories of playing in piles of leaves together, goofing off together, and the always favorite chopping and stacking firewood together. All of it enjoyed together, and during quite a large portion of it we had live music! No, we can't go back. If the geese come back our way, great, if not, someone else gets their music for awhile. Can I still work towards ending mankind's negative impacts on the global climatic system? Try and stop me. AntiFossil. * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama * The difference between truth and fiction is that fiction must make sense or nobody will believe it. Mark Twain * - Original Message - From: mark manchester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 2:23 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Different weather, was Donation Info Is this climate change? Here in Toronto my brothers and sister and I always went tobogganing on Christmas Eve, that was our happy ritual, year after year, under the stars. Then one year, and it was easily twenty years ago, there wasn't really very much snow, but we went anyway. I was skeptical, surveying the slope from the top, and decided not to go down. My sister said she hadn't hauled the toboggan all the way up here for nothing, hopped on, and went down alone. The sled stopped cold at the bottom of the moonlit hill and in the impact, my sister had broken her back. We've not had a white Christmas since, either, though our enthusiasm for tobogganing isn't what it used to be. Bewildering, but maybe this sort of climate change is normal. What's the lifespan of a polar bear hunting his iceflow, or a Canada Goose migrating with visual cues? Adaptation is quick for some species. Jesse From: Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:52:21 -0500 To: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Donation Info Hallo Keith, Again, no thanks necessary. This is a pure pleasure for me. Just to let the list know, there have been 14 responses (which includes me) to date. Some are those I would expect to respond but some are lurkers which is nice. It is always nice to know that there are those out there who appreciate a good and worthwhile effort such as this list and JtF. I expect that after the holidays we will be getting more response from others. I think that at this time of the year there are holidays nearly worldwide. Were I not a religious person I would still be thankful for the cold quiet and beauty of winter which gives the land a time of rest and stillness, at least in the northern climates. Winter is my favorite time of year. I do miss the snow we once had when I was a child. We have hardly been able to ski for the last 15 years or so unless we went farther north. When I was younger we had the snow from November through to sometimes mid-March.There is something very restful about going out in the dark and checking up on and caring for the animals. Nothing quite beats the cold, quiet, peaceful winter night. Then after seeing that they have sufficient food and water to get them through the night one is able to come into the house, load the wood into the furnace for the night, and enjoy the warmth and rest. I wish you all of whatever tradition the best of the season and I wish the same for my brothers and sisters who do not have a religious tradition. We are all one. Happy Happy, Gustl ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at
Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2
LLOoottt yyyor ppooiinnn Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:dary hannnah, drivess a 78? chevvy el caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,, that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as 6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm application, it had a shoc coup0ler insid that waass incompatibleee with diesel fuel, it was aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of silver dollar wit sixx holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this coupllser , it turneddd blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like blaack perpper,,trashed the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to drive on the pins, also caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose bout the designnn, and built replacemeanat based on this with stainless steel shock,,, coupler, buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent into the creek,, theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that willl drop u in your tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u want to find out how well wash water in the crk might work, post two line ad in your local newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss will let you knoww how wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of i this way the discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be neutra,, want to drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u wouldnt want to drink, somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so then u or someone drinks it anyawya _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ - Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknevicius's question)
Better living through science. Very droll, Kirk! It is just recycling material on the ground. The background count is not what it was in 1944 Not much is what it was in 1944. And all the fallout from decades of testing will keep being recycled until their half-lives are halved out. Guess it's a good thing that few people leach their caustic for soap making out of their wood ashes anymore. Nothing like upping the ante on exposure levels by soaping down with radioactive soap, or wearing work duds that have been scoured clean with same. Well there's a thought. (One I hadn't had.) I'm about to do just that. Not for soap though, though I will try making soap with it, just for the sake of thoroughness. I really want to see if I can use ash as a source of catalyst for biodiesel. I wonder how radiactive wood ash is here in Japan? Plenty of nukes, and leaks and disasters with 'em, of course, but no N-testing here, unless you count Hiroshima and Nagasaki as testing, which I guess it was. :-( What a load of mis-mythology we've all been fed eh? Anyway, so much for clean coal, whjat a big surprise (not). Somehow I'd rather have wood ash, radiactive or not. Regards Keith Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:37 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknevicius's question) It is just recycling material on the ground. The background count is not what it was in 1944 Better living through science. Kirk --- Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! I am really surprised at that. ...very interesting! [Further testing of wood ash across the U.S. suggests] that fallout in wood ash 'is a major source of radioactivity released into the environment... Thank you for the enlightenment. Mike Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the burning of wood also cause radioactive emissions? I have no idea. But, I would be surprised. I wouldn't. http://ishgooda.org/nuclear/nuke1.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Silent Night, Deadly Night
Not only did our state department refuse extradition of Warren Anderson they put an enormous amount of political pressure on India to drop its suit and investigation. ... and to dilute the charges. Ken Did you expect anything better? -- Martin K If Greenpeace can track down India's most wanted, I find it hard to believe that nobody else could have done it, said Harrell, who confronted Anderson at his home two weeks ago and taped the meeting with a hidden video camera. At first he tried to deny who he was and then he ran into the house, Harrell said, adding that he had handed Anderson a copy of the Indian arrest warrant. -- Greenpeace Tracks Down US Exec Wanted Over Bhopal Deaths Published on Friday, August 30, 2002 by Agence France Presse http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0830-05.htm ... Warren Anderson at his luxury home at The Hamptons, New York. His local golf club subscription costs $2700 a year, more than five times what Union Carbide's victims in Bhopal got for a lifetime of illness and suffering. (Greenpeace report, link dead) http://www.bhopal.net/features/bhopalandbabylon.html Bhopal Babylon BRIDGEHAMPTON, LONG ISLAND: Ex-Carbide CEO Warren Anderson is clearly startled by all the media attention focussed on him since a court in Bhopal reaffirmed on 28 August that he is wanted for the homicide of 20,000 Bhopalis, and called for his immediate extradition. He must really have thought he'd got away with it. Warren has been ignoring the court's summonses and Interpol's arrest warrant for more than a decade. How is it, Channel 4 asked last week, that US authorities have apparently been unable to trace him, when it turns out he has been living openly at his house in Long Island's exclusive Hamptons district? (Channel 4 found the address, incidentally, on our website.) Mrs Lillian Anderson, caught by Channel 4's reporter as she drove her silver Cadillac into the couple's $1,150,000 home -which stands on a white sand beach on the Atlantic ocrean - did not want to talk. She said huffily, My husband flew to India and they put him in jail. In fact, Warren Anderson spent three hours under nominal 'house arrest' at Carbide's luxury guest house. He was freed on a surety of $1,500 and left for America, promising I will come back to India whenever the law requires it. But when the law required it, he said he did not recognise the court's jurisdiction. He never returned. How inconvenient of Bhopal's dead and injured -We've got people coming to dinner Did Warren Anderson have anything to say about the 20,000 people who have died in Bhopal as a result of Carbide's gas leak? He did not. Instead his wife testily told Channel 4's reporter, Zoe Conway, This is most inconvenient. We've got people coming to dinner. Pressed to ask her husband to say what his current feelings were on the continuing suffering of more than 130,000 people in Bhopal, Mrs Anderson snapped, I told you, we are giving a dinner party, and it isn't even catered These comments were not shown on last week's broadcast - we learned of them in a telephone call from a friend - they prompted us to do a bit of finding out about the Andersons' lifestyle. Long Island's Hamptons are an expensive part of the world. Steven Spielberg has a house there. Meg Ryan was at Sunset Beach on Shelter Island on Saturday night having dinner,' gushed a recent issue of New York Metro magazine. Helena Christensen is always there, Liv Tyler is always there, and socialites like Lulu de Kwiatkowski always turn up. The locals have nicknamed some of the customers the boat people, because they all come over on their incredible boats, and they leave $300 tips. So what is a dinner party in the Hampton's like? What sort of shopping might Mrs Anderson's Cadillac have been carrying home? Bridgehampton Polo Club is just down the road from the Andersons. Membership costs upwards of $7,500 a year. Not part of the real world. I have to tell you, we're not part of the real world, said Bridgehampton's society caterer Brent Newsom, when we put these questions to him. It costs to live here. It would seem that Lillian Anderson is used to having her dinner parties catered. A Newsom dinner for eight people could easily cost over $1,000. At a recent seven-person lunch attended by the Governor of New York, the food cost $800. There were two staff at $350 and flowers at around $250. The client generally provides the wine, because New York licensing laws mean a caterer would have to charge restaurant prices, say $100 for a bottle of wine that cost $30 in the shops. Perhaps Lillian had been over to the Amagansett Wine Store, where they do a decent Latour Pouilly Fuisse for $22 a bottle, and a Paumanok 2000 Sauvignon Blanc, a local version of a Sauterne for a mere $80. What would she be cooking? Well, beef would be a usual choice for a smart dinner party,
Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2
Please take no notice of this person's sneers, and please accept my apologies for this. The administration has written to him about it offlist. Please don't be discouraged by it, go on posting as before. To all: the background to this is here, if you didn't see it at the time: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38305/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38374/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38484/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38415/ It's amazing that someone who could write a message like this next could have the gall to criticise someone else's spelling: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/22474/ Date: 2003-03-16 From: Energy Recovery Subject: Re: [biofuel] War, Bush, and all the other Middle East stuff Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner LLOoottt yyyor ppooiinnn Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:dary hannnah, drivess a 78? chevvy el caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,, that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as 6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm application, it had a shoc coup0ler insid that waass incompatibleee with diesel fuel, it was aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of silver dollar wit sixx holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this coupllser , it turneddd blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like blaack perpper,,trashed the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to drive on the pins, also caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose bout the designnn, and built replacemeanat based on this with stainless steel shock,,, coupler, buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent into the creek,, theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that willl drop u in your tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u want to find out how well wash water in the crk might work, post two line ad in your local newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss will let you knoww how wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of i this way the discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be neutra,, want to drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u wouldnt want to drink, somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so then u or someone drinks it anyawya ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] I need filters
We ran tractors with these filtering oil and diesel. When they get dirty unscrew, take out the old grungy filter element and replace it with a standard roll of off the shelf Charmin' toilet paper. Of course you could use an off brand to save a few bucks on a ten pack. Pardon the pun. I ain't a sh*tt*n ya! No better filter made as far as I can tell. http://www.bypassfilter.com/index.htm Remember where you got this. God stuff... Bill Challis [EMAIL PROTECTED] fastest internet in the west. - Original Message - From: Theo Chadzichristos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] I need filters Hi all, Ive been looking to find a inline pre filter for my diesel benz in which I can replace the filter element but have had trouble finding diesel fuel filters and was wondering if anyone knows where I can get one. Also I found some 100 micron strainers that i plan on getting to pre filter the WVO, does anyone have any experience with these? Also does anyone have any special filters to do a final filtering of the biodiesel before it goes into the tank (like 10 microns or less). Thanks, Theo Chadzichristos ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] I need filters
Final filtration prior to tank filling can be done with a bulk fuel filter, the type found on farm and construction fuel oil tanks. They're available in ten micron and look like an oil filter. Available at most NAPA outlets in the US. Filter comes separate from the filter mount. The same can be mounted under a hood, presuming you have enough space. It's probably the least expensive resolution, at about $7.00 US per filter. The plumbing you'd have to concoct. New filters would have to be primed prior to mounting, no different than the factory fuel filter. As for filtering the WVO? Perhaps the least expensive filtration after screening and prior to pumping into a reactor is the ten inch restaurant cone filters. They're rather inexpensive and come in packs of fifty, or cases of five hundred from restaurant supply houses. They actually are a bit of overkill for biodiesel production, as all the particulates generally settle out in the glyc cocktail. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Theo Chadzichristos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:23 PM Subject: [Biofuel] I need filters Hi all, Ive been looking to find a inline pre filter for my diesel benz in which I can replace the filter element but have had trouble finding diesel fuel filters and was wondering if anyone knows where I can get one. Also I found some 100 micron strainers that i plan on getting to pre filter the WVO, does anyone have any experience with these? Also does anyone have any special filters to do a final filtering of the biodiesel before it goes into the tank (like 10 microns or less). Thanks, Theo Chadzichristos ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2
Thanks Buck. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2 Buck Please take no notice of this person's sneers, and please accept my apologies for this. The administration has written to him about it offlist. Please don't be discouraged by it, go on posting as before. To all: the background to this is here, if you didn't see it at the time: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38305/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38374/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38484/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38415/ It's amazing that someone who could write a message like this next could have the gall to criticise someone else's spelling: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/22474/ Date: 2003-03-16 From: Energy Recovery Subject: Re: [biofuel] War, Bush, and all the other Middle East stuff Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner LLOoottt yyyor ppooiinnn Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:dary hannnah, drivess a 78? chevvy el caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,, that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as 6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm application, it had a shoc coup0ler insid that waass incompatibleee with diesel fuel, it was aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of silver dollar wit sixx holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this coupllser , it turneddd blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like blaack perpper,,trashed the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to drive on the pins, also caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose bout the designnn, and built replacemeanat based on this with stainless steel shock,,, coupler, buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent into the creek,, theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that willl drop u in your tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u want to find out how well wash water in the crk might work, post two line ad in your local newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss will let you knoww how wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of i this way the discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be neutra,, want to drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u wouldnt want to drink, somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so then u or someone drinks it anyawya ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknevicius's question)
Does the burning of wood also cause radioactive emissions? POC It doesn't cause them, per se. Back in the 1950's when atmospheric nuclear testing was conducted, some elements, such as strontium 90 (I think, my memory isn't what it used to be) were taken up in plant tissues as these radioactive materials dispersed through the air and settled on or near the ground. Young trees that absorbed these elements during their growing cycles are now at an age where they are big enough for harvest, and burning them would again release these elements into the atmosphere. Most of this radioactivity should be well beyond dangerous by now. Corrections of my factual recall would be appreciated. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782 Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
VS: [Biofuel] I need filters
Hello All, We are using normal water filter housings and filter elements. They are easy to connect in line as they have standard threds (1 pipe connection). The filter element you find down to 5 microns / and they are easy to change and very cheap. We were using 65 micron washable element and then a 10 micron before fuling up. But now we only filter with one 10 micron prior to fuling the cars. Seasonal Greetings from a - 3¡C calm winter weather Finland. Tomas -Alkuperinen viesti- Lhettj: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Puolesta Appal Energy Lhetetty: 21. joulukuuta 2004 7:13 Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aihe: Re: [Biofuel] I need filters Theo, Final filtration prior to tank filling can be done with a bulk fuel filter, the type found on farm and construction fuel oil tanks. They're available in ten micron and look like an oil filter. Available at most NAPA outlets in the US. Filter comes separate from the filter mount. The same can be mounted under a hood, presuming you have enough space. It's probably the least expensive resolution, at about $7.00 US per filter. The plumbing you'd have to concoct. New filters would have to be primed prior to mounting, no different than the factory fuel filter. As for filtering the WVO? Perhaps the least expensive filtration after screening and prior to pumping into a reactor is the ten inch restaurant cone filters. They're rather inexpensive and come in packs of fifty, or cases of five hundred from restaurant supply houses. They actually are a bit of overkill for biodiesel production, as all the particulates generally settle out in the glyc cocktail. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Theo Chadzichristos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:23 PM Subject: [Biofuel] I need filters Hi all, Ive been looking to find a inline pre filter for my diesel benz in which I can replace the filter element but have had trouble finding diesel fuel filters and was wondering if anyone knows where I can get one. Also I found some 100 micron strainers that i plan on getting to pre filter the WVO, does anyone have any experience with these? Also does anyone have any special filters to do a final filtering of the biodiesel before it goes into the tank (like 10 microns or less). Thanks, Theo Chadzichristos ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] TDI Question
It's physically possible but a big job not less because the TDI engine is controlled by an EDC which you need to install as well as changing the instrument panel(speedometer). If it makes financial sense under your conditions I can not say. Here en Denmark some workshops do this conversion, and it makes financial sense because the TDI second hand prices are high and stable, but gasoline cars like the Passat Wagon with high mileage can be imported relative cheap from Germany. An important reason why it makes financial sence here is that we pay 180% tax on top of the price for all new and imported second hand passenger cars. Niels DK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Wendy Sent: 19. december 2004 15:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] TDI Question Hi Everyone! I am a station wagon kind of mom. I don't want to drop a lot of money on a new car, so purchasing a new Jetta or Passat wagon TDI is out of the question. Finding a used TDI wagon is very hard. I found some gasoline Passat wagons on auto trader for under $10,000. Could I purchase one of them and put a diesel engine in it? Is it physically possible? Does it make financial sense? Thanks! Wendy Adams Harrisburg, PA ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Organic Production Works
little too long-established to refer to this current fossil-fuelled blip of the last few decades as conventional. See also: http://www.extension.iastate.edu/newsrel/2004/oct04/oct0423.html ISU Releases Organic Transition Research Results http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publications.htm?SEQ_NO_ 115=157405 ARS: Agroecosystem Performance During Transition to Certified Organic Grain Production --- The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk ISIS Press Release 09/12/04 Organic Production Works A new study shows organic production outperforms conventional in crop yield, soil fertility, pest reduction and economic return. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sis.org.ukRhea Gala reports Transition to organic production Increasing public demand for organic products attracts premiums for the certified organic farmer, causing hard-pressed conventional farmers to consider going organic. In the US, a 20% annual growth rate caused sales of organic produce to reach $8 billion in 2001; and incentives to farmers to go organic are offered in the 2002 Farm Bill, including cost sharing, and direct payments for conservation practices, such as longer crop rotations. Scientists Kathleen Delate of Iowa State University and Cynthia A. Cambardella of the US Department of Agriculture assessed the agroecosystem performance of farms during the three-year transition it takes to switch from conventional to certified organic grain production. Strategies for lowering the risk of yield loss during this period have been researched, as productivity has been found to decrease initially when fertilizer and pesticide applications are withheld. But productivity generally improves in successive years under organic management to equal that in conventional farms. The study found that organic grain crops can be successfully produced in the third year of transition and that additional economic benefits can be derived from expanded crop rotation. The experiment, lasting four years (three years transition and first year of organic certification), tested the hypothesis that organic systems relying on locally derived inputs are capable of providing stable yields while maintaining soil quality and plant protection compared with conventional systems with less diverse crop rotations and greater levels of external, fossil-fuel based inputs. The experimental design involved a completely randomized four replications of four different cropping system treatments. The researchers looked at the effects of organic farming practices, including crop rotation, cover cropping, compost application, and non-chemical weed control on soil fertility, crop yield, and grain quality compared with the conventional system. They assessed pests and plant response under various crop rotations, and determined which certified organic crop rotations reduced the risks from low yield and improved soil properties and economic returns. Organics performed as well or better During the four-year period, corn yield in the organic system averaged 91.8% of conventional corn yield and soybean yield in the organic system averaged 99.6% of conventional soybean yield. By year three, there was no significant difference between organic and conventional yields; and both organic corn and soybeans exceeded conventional yields in the fourth year (the first year after certification). In the initial year of transition, an economic advantage could be gained by planting legume hay crops or crops with a low nitrogen demand in fields with low productivity, to increase fertility for the following corn crop. In the second year, yield differences were mitigated by rotation effects and compost application, providing sufficient nutrients for the organic grain crop. The yields in year three were similar, but the importance of a soil-building cover crop, or legume grass mixture such as the oat-alfalfa mixture used in this study was apparent in the fourth year when organic corn and soybean yields out-performed the conventional crops. Other benefits The researchers thought that timely weed management and sufficient levels of nitrogen, phosphate and potassium in the organic system contributed to good yields during transition. Yield increases were obtained after three years because of available nitrogen due to organic amendments, such as composted pig manure and the inclusion of forage legumes and other green manures in extended crop rotations. Soil fertility depends on the constant renewal of biologically available nitrogen to replenish the organic nitrogen pools for plants to absorb. Total nitrogen levels showed an increase of 457 kg per hectare in organic soil over four years, or an average increase of 114 kg N per ha per annum, sufficient to maintain organic nitrogen pools in this system. Total organic calcium increased 9% in organic soil over the transition period, with
[Biofuel] Top Scientists Launch RealClimate.org
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE December 10, 2004 For More Information Contact Kalee Kreider, 202-463-6670 Top Scientists Launch RealClimate.org Team of Renowned Climate Experts from Europe and the US Create First-of-a-Kind Climate Weblog Today, top climate scientists will launch a unique website to provide commentary on the emerging new results from climate science. The site is designed as a tool for journalists and members of the public, and will provide a quick response to developing stories and provide the context sometimes missing in mainstream commentary. The discussion is restricted solely to scientific topics and will not address political issues. We are trying to ensure that science doesn't get trampled by politics, said Gavin Schmidt. We hope this site will serve as a resource that can challenge mis-representations or mis-understandings of the science as they occur in real time, said Michael Mann. Schmidt, Mann, Stefan Rahmstorf, Rasmus Benestad, Caspar Ammann, Ray Bradley, William Connolley, Eric Steig, and Amy Clement are all contributors to the site. This group includes two Scientific American 50 Research Leader award winners and recipients of prestigious fellowship awards from the McDonnell and Comer foundations. Information on the site includes commentary on breaking news such as the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment as well as the latest scientific findings on greenhouse gases, the paleoclimatic record, climate modeling, and connections between the sun's variability and climate. The scientific contributors work in their personal capacity, and receive no financial compensation for this work. Journalists may also read their biographies, request more information, or reach the scientists through the site www.realclimate.org or contact the scientists directly: Gavin Schmidt 212-678-5627 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Mann 434-924-7770 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Steig 206-543-6327 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stefan Rahmstorf +49 331 288 2688 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Germany) Rasmus Benestad +47 2296 3377 rasmus.benestad-at-met.no ### ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Organic Production Works
Keith, The San Joaquin Valley, California is a mix of large corporate farms, large family farms, and then medium and small farms. Some organic, some not. Do you have any studies or weblinks that talk about organic farming and its impact upon air quality, transportation and air pollution? Is there a correlation between organic farming and less air pollution? I think there is because less organo-phosphates, less pesticide. But how about transportation and getting the product to and from the market place to sell the goods. I think the answer is to provide the organic farmer the means to transport their product via a clean WVO/biodiesel/clean air vehicle. Any comments appreciated. Phillip Wolfe --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For conventional read industrialized. Agriculture is just a little too long-established to refer to this current fossil-fuelled blip of the last few decades as conventional. See also: http://www.extension.iastate.edu/newsrel/2004/oct04/oct0423.html ISU Releases Organic Transition Research Results http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publications.htm?SEQ_NO_ 115=157405 ARS: Agroecosystem Performance During Transition to Certified Organic Grain Production --- The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk ISIS Press Release 09/12/04 Organic Production Works A new study shows organic production outperforms conventional in crop yield, soil fertility, pest reduction and economic return. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sis.org.ukRhea Gala reports Transition to organic production Increasing public demand for organic products attracts premiums for the certified organic farmer, causing hard-pressed conventional farmers to consider going organic. In the US, a 20% annual growth rate caused sales of organic produce to reach $8 billion in 2001; and incentives to farmers to go organic are offered in the 2002 Farm Bill, including cost sharing, and direct payments for conservation practices, such as longer crop rotations. Scientists Kathleen Delate of Iowa State University and Cynthia A. Cambardella of the US Department of Agriculture assessed the agroecosystem performance of farms during the three-year transition it takes to switch from conventional to certified organic grain production. Strategies for lowering the risk of yield loss during this period have been researched, as productivity has been found to decrease initially when fertilizer and pesticide applications are withheld. But productivity generally improves in successive years under organic management to equal that in conventional farms. The study found that organic grain crops can be successfully produced in the third year of transition and that additional economic benefits can be derived from expanded crop rotation. The experiment, lasting four years (three years transition and first year of organic certification), tested the hypothesis that organic systems relying on locally derived inputs are capable of providing stable yields while maintaining soil quality and plant protection compared with conventional systems with less diverse crop rotations and greater levels of external, fossil-fuel based inputs. The experimental design involved a completely randomized four replications of four different cropping system treatments. The researchers looked at the effects of organic farming practices, including crop rotation, cover cropping, compost application, and non-chemical weed control on soil fertility, crop yield, and grain quality compared with the conventional system. They assessed pests and plant response under various crop rotations, and determined which certified organic crop rotations reduced the risks from low yield and improved soil properties and economic returns. Organics performed as well or better During the four-year period, corn yield in the organic system averaged 91.8% of conventional corn yield and soybean yield in the organic system averaged 99.6% of conventional soybean yield. By year three, there was no significant difference between organic and conventional yields; and both organic corn and soybeans exceeded conventional yields in the fourth year (the first year after certification). In the initial year of transition, an economic advantage could be gained by planting legume hay crops or crops with a low nitrogen demand in fields with low productivity, to increase fertility for the following corn crop. In the second year, yield differences were mitigated by rotation effects and compost application, providing sufficient nutrients for the organic grain crop. The yields in year three were similar, but the importance of a soil-building cover crop, or legume grass mixture such as the oat-alfalfa mixture used in this study was apparent in the fourth
Re: [Biofuel] Gas Stations and C-Stores
I will finally admit to you biofuel readers that I worked at a major petorluem company in the petroeleum distribution and energy business. I worked with up to 10,000 gas stations at one time. It was in this position that I was exposed to gas stations, C-Stores and then later biofuels and biodiesels. I worked at a energy services startup within the petroleum company. We had a great job to market energy conservation services to companies and gas stations in need of energy conservation - on an industrial scale. It was in this position that I was exposed to gas stations, C-Stores and then later biofuels and biodiesels. The C-Store business in the United States is a quite independent group of owners, jobbers and distributors. They own both branded and unbranded gas stations (C-Stores for Convenience Stores). Because they are indpendendtly owned the owner-operators are very enterpreneurial AND more environmental conscious than I ever dreamed. The current challange is the owner-operators depend greatly on the parent petroleum companies for supply of petroleum and knowledge of marketing. But not all of them. There are many independent non-branded gas station C stores. I think there is an oportunity of offer gas station owners another supply stream. A supply stream of biofuels. The problem is that if they are BRANDED with a major petroleum company they will not be allowed to have another pump at the station. I know this because an indpendent mined gas station owner operator in Idaho tried this and his parent petroleum company spanked him. I tried to intervene and help him by hooking him up with a biodiesel supplier but my parent petroleum company told me that this was not within the corporate guidelines because the biodiesel would negate the engine manufacturers warranty. If we can build trust with this group, I think there is an opportunity to start a Starbucks of the gas station business. I say Starbucks because who ever thought that something as simple as coffee could every have another market entrant like Starbucks. I don't think Folgers ever thought this would happen. So us readers in biofuels can do the same. It takes one of us or two of us to start a little gas station but call it a biofuel station. There is a small gas station in my neighborhood in San Leandro, California. It is closed now but I would love to open this as independent with biofuels. It takes money and courage. Maybe each one of you can identify a orphan gas station in your area. And we can change the world step by step. Hey, maybe we call em Orphan Fuels Maybe I am dreaming too much. Merry Christmas. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
