[Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Mike Weaver
* Rudolf Diesel, the inventor of the diesel engine, designed it to run on vegetable and seed oils like hemp. In fact, when the diesel engine was first introduced at the World's Fair in 1900, it ran on peanut oil. * Two decades later, Henry Ford was designing his Model

Re: [Biofuel] mixing ethoxide (again)

2006-06-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Be curious to hear how this works - I need a better MoX mixing system now that I'm ramping up. -Weaver Jason Katie wrote: has anyone tried using a pump to mix the catalyst itself? i have 3 small pumps laying around and planned to use 2 for the oil mixing and moving, but wondered if i could

Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results

2006-06-08 Thread Thomas Kelly
 Tom Irwin, You wrote: " I think methanol may be smaller than 3A just based on your results." I was afraid of that, but it would explain the numbers. "I don't know if water is more polar than methanol." I think water is more polar than methanol. ++ H H O vs. methanol w.

[Biofuel] Back to the future redux

2006-06-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Is Bush really Dan Quayle? Why wouldn't an enhanced deterrent, a more stable peace, a better prospect to denying the ones who enter conflict in the first place to have a reduction of offensive systems and an introduction to defensive capability. I believe that is the route this country will

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread John Beale
Silly Diesel and Ford. Everyone knows cars can't run on ethanol. That's why we, as humans, travel thousands of miles and invest billions of dollars in drilling rigs, pipelines, refineries, supertankers, and oil wars. What were they thinking? Fuel from plants? That's preposterous! What

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future redux

2006-06-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike W, You are right!!! I did not realize that the plastic surgery advanced to this level, or is it a brain transplant? Hakan At 14:22 08/06/2006, you wrote: Is Bush really Dan Quayle? Why wouldn't an enhanced deterrent, a more stable peace, a better prospect to denying the ones who

Re: [Biofuel] mixing ethoxide (again)

2006-06-08 Thread Joe Street
What is the problem with using a stirring motor? Dude think about what you are suggesting. What if you spring a leak on the outlet side of the pump somewhere? Do you really want to be spraying that Sh** around your place? Tink about it. Joe Jason Katie wrote: has anyone tried using a pump

[Biofuel] 1927 Again

2006-06-08 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13531.htm 1927 Again Excerpted from Armed Madhouse By Greg Palast. 06/07/06 Information Clearing House -- The National Public Radio news anchor was so excited I thought she'd pee herself: The President of the United States had flown his plane

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
In the early days when the Standard had competition from alcohol it was alleged the reason railroad tank cars arrrived without their cargo was John's boys had sabotaged them. Of course that couldn't be true - could it?Also if you have access to a Mark's Handbook printed prior to WWIII look up

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Joe Street
Ahh here it is: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg62146.html J Mike Weaver wrote: * Rudolf Diesel, the inventor of the diesel engine, designed it to run on vegetable and seed oils like hemp. In fact, when the diesel engine was first introduced at

Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results

2006-06-08 Thread Joe Street
Hi Tom;; forget about this idea that you can dry zeolite gently at atmospheric pressure with low temps. You cannot do it man. Water molecules at STP move at supersonic kinematic velocities! You either need high temps or vacumm sorry. Joe Thomas Kelly wrote: Tom Irwin, You wrote: I

[Biofuel] New Dr. Seuss-style political poem

2006-06-08 Thread marilyn
I'm the Decider by Roddy McCorley I'm the decider. I pick and I choose. I pick among whats and I choose among whos. And as I decide each particular day, The things I decide on all turn out that way. I decided on Freedom for all of Iraq. And now that they have it, I'm not looking back. I

Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol for diesel engines

2006-06-08 Thread FRANCISCO
Hi Ethanol is close to gasoline when referring to fueling energy to an engine. Therefore cetane number is low even though ethanol prefers higher pressure than regular gasoline. So ethanol diesel blend to be viable as fuel and easy the blending has to have two supports: cetane improver additive

Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results

2006-06-08 Thread Joe Street
Hi Tom; Don't be surprised. Water is everywhere. It is chemisorbed onto the surface of everything including metal and ceramic. In ultra high vacuum systems it is getting rid of water that allows pumping into the UHV range (and then hydrogen ...but that mostly comes from the water anyways).

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Joe Street
Didn't Keith debunk that myth here just recently? Well this isn't the message I remember but it says basically the same thing... http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg60497.html Joe Mike Weaver wrote: * Rudolf Diesel, the inventor of the diesel engine, designed

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Keith Addison
* Rudolf Diesel, the inventor of the diesel engine, designed it to run on vegetable and seed oils like hemp. In fact, when the diesel engine was first introduced at the World's Fair in 1900, it ran on peanut oil. Aarghh!!! Not the old Rudolf and the Peanut Oil fairytale

Re: [Biofuel] New Dr. Seuss-style political poem

2006-06-08 Thread John Beale
excellent. On Jun 8, 2006, at 10:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm the Decider by Roddy McCorley I'm the decider. I pick and I choose. I pick among whats and I choose among whos. And as I decide each particular day, The things I decide on all turn out that way. I decided on Freedom

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Keith, Coal dust is the key, because it was the coal industry who paid for the development of the diesel engine. Observing that coal dust is almost explosive, they had they idea that it could be sold and used for an engine, instead of piling up as useless trash mountains. Diesel did not

Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol for diesel engines

2006-06-08 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Just wanting to make some remarks . The Scania ethanol buses are running on a special ethanol quality blend consisting from ethanol (95%), a cetane improver called Bereid, which I am told is a polyglycol, and a lubricant. The injection timing is normal (approx 20 degrees before TDC) and all

[Biofuel] Fw: Bumper stickers

2006-06-08 Thread D. Mindock
These bumper stickers were compiled by Jerry Paull, a former Methodistminister in Lakeside, Ohio, who writes: The following actual bumper stickersare now on cars. I didn't write any of them. I'm only the messenger. If theymake you laugh, good. If they make you cry, good. If they make you

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Appal Energy
Actually, Diesel was contracted by the German navy to create an engine that ran on coal dust. In the process there were several explosive failures resulting in deaths. The presumption is made that Diesel used vegetable oils to reduce the explosive properties of coal dust. Eventually, and again

Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol for diesel engines

2006-06-08 Thread Tomas Juknevicius
Ah, it just opens the new energy path. If only the BD could be used for diesels, only the energy from oily plants can be harvested for usage in cars. With this new path, more avenues are opened. Energy input from starchy plants (especially keeping in mind the ethanol generation from celulose) can

Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results

2006-06-08 Thread Thomas Kelly
Joe, The drying was referring to any methanol that may have wandered in (assuming methanol is small enough to get through the 3A pores.I don't think it adheres very strongly to zeolite. If I could remove the methanol I'd get an idea of the mass gain due to water adsorption. In the

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
Actually a solar/coaldust hybrid could have potential. Putting solar heat into air is difficult to do speedily and coal dust could be finely dispersed. The bottom end could be solar. Certainly save on emissions and help achieve complete combustion.A cylinder with a quartz window.KirkHakan Falk

Re: [Biofuel] price

2006-06-08 Thread Hakan Falk
DO NOT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT, I AM QUITE SURE IT IS A VIRUS! Hakan At 19:27 08/06/2006, you wrote: February price ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] 1927 Again

2006-06-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
The "Kingfish" was accused of political graft on an unprecedented scale but a friend of mine from Louisiana pointed out that the state capitol building supposedly built with contracts rife with graft cost only 1/3 of the LA county building which looks like it could be built from the same set of

Re: [Biofuel] price DO NOT OPEN ATTACHEMENT!!!!!!!!!

2006-06-08 Thread Hakan Falk
DO NOT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT, I AM QUITE SURE IT IS A VIRUS! Hakan At 19:27 08/06/2006, you wrote: February price ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Joe Street
Why pray tell COAL dust then? Many dusts are combustible. How about tapioca? How about icing sugar? Ever throw coffeemate into your campfire? (stand well back if you try thisunless it is part of a ritual dance of course) lol Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: Actually a solar/coaldust hybrid

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
Because it will absorb solar radiation. and since there is a suspension transfer to the air will be rapid. This all happens BEFORE ignition. Then oxidation does the final rise in temperature. Much higher delta T with same investment in O2 and hydrocarbon. And the hydrocarbon is nearignition

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future - THE TRUTH

2006-06-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Uh, Keith, hate to burst your bubble, but it is well-established that Rudolph Diesel designed his engine primarily to atomize hemp oil, in order to reap its psychopharmacological benefits. It was really just a big metal bong. The production of rotational torque was a side effect, and neccessary

Re: [Biofuel] price Hakan it is a variant of Beagle

2006-06-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
Virus "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" found. The file attached to this message was infected with a virus that we were unable to clean. You should not download this attachment.Midori [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: February price ___Biofuel mailing

Re: [Biofuel] price DO NOT OPEN ATTACHEMENT!!!!!!!!!

2006-06-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
what attachment? In fact the only biofuel email I have with the subject price is from you. Maybe someone spoofed the biofuel addressKirkHakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DO NOT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT, I AM QUITE SURE IT IS A VIRUS!HakanAt 19:27 08/06/2006, you wrote:February

Re: [Biofuel] 1927 Again

2006-06-08 Thread Mike Weaver
I'm sick and tired of you picking on Our Fearless Leader. Don't forger he's also The Leader of the Free World so if you are free, he's your leader too. Show some respect. 1700 feet is pretty close in such a big airplane. For your information, Mr. Smarty Pants, the reason the president didn't

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Actually, In1981, Ronald Reagan noted that trees cause more pollution than automobiles. So you're right. Let's get rid of all the plants! John Beale wrote: Silly Diesel and Ford. Everyone knows cars can't run on ethanol. That's why we, as humans, travel thousands of miles and invest billions

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future redux

2006-06-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Everything old is new... Hakan Falk wrote: Mike W, You are right!!! I did not realize that the plastic surgery advanced to this level, or is it a brain transplant? Hakan At 14:22 08/06/2006, you wrote: Is Bush really Dan Quayle? Why wouldn't an enhanced deterrent, a more stable

Re: [Biofuel] price DO NOT OPEN ATTACHEMENT!!!!!!!!!

2006-06-08 Thread Hakan Falk
In that case you might have something that caught it on the way, maybe your ISP have virus protection for you. Hakan At 19:48 08/06/2006, you wrote: what attachment? In fact the only biofuel email I have with the subject price is from you. Maybe someone spoofed the biofuel address Kirk

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Joe Street
Oh yeah me too coffee (shade grown fair trade) is much too precious for any edible oil product like coffeemate. The only true use for it is as a burnt offering to the sun god to ensure the rest of your backpacking trip is rain free. Works well in arid regions. ;) Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: snip

Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results

2006-06-08 Thread Thomas Kelly
 The Zeolite from the Control (3A Molecular Sieve and Methanol Recovery) increased in mass by 13.6%. This was a bit alarming. Joe Street suggested that it might be water absorbed from the air while air-drying. Tom Irwin suggested that while this is true, it might also have absorbed

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Joe Street
Oh yeah I forgot to mention burnt hemp oil is an essential part of this ritual. Just ask Mike 'oil sheik' Weaver he is an expert on the subject. J Joe Street wrote: Oh yeah me too coffee (shade grown fair trade) is much too precious for any edible oil product like coffeemate. The only true

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future - THE TRUTH

2006-06-08 Thread Joe Street
Works for me! Mike Weaver wrote: sip If only we would go back to burning hemp oil our problems would be over. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results

2006-06-08 Thread Joe Street
Hi Tom; Well from what I can find methanol should be larger than 3 angstroms BUT I would also be surprised if the zeolite had an absolute pore size. It is probably avareage pore size so it would adsorb a little methanol I would guess. But while ambient air does always contain some water it

[Biofuel] $100 laptop arrives

2006-06-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
News: Working Model of $100 Laptop Steals MITX SpotlightAt the awards show recognizing technological innovations, One Laptop per Child's Negroponte demonstrates a model that boots Fedora Linux. Check out the slide show too. Slide Show: Working Model of the $100 Laptop Arrives

Re: [Biofuel] mixing ethoxide (again)

2006-06-08 Thread Jason Katie
it would be contained, not saying i would like a spill, but it wouldnt be a mess all over. im just exploring my options (its food grade stainless pump from a big iced tea maker) - Original Message - From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, June

[Biofuel] A revolution in motion

2006-06-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.e-traction.com/ City bus energy derived solely from diesel fuel (generator @ 3.8 kW per liter)* liters per 100 kmkm per litermiles per (US) gallon City85 km/hCity85 km/hCity85 km/h e-Traction® powered (Whisper™) city bus

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Michael Redler
Kirk,It's a very novel approach but, with all due respect, I thinkthe thermodynamics of this process needs a closer look.The origins of all mechanical energy can (eventually) be traced back to temperature changes. So, your intentions are in the right place.Thermal expansion as part of a

Re: [Biofuel] Online sources for self study - Black Bodies

2006-06-08 Thread Mike Redler
Hi Joe, Your research is a little outside of my range of expertise. So, I gave your message to my finance. She has a PhD in Chemistry and runs a chromatography lab. All she had to say was Wow! He's got access to some nice equipment.. I think she's jealous. I may be way off but, your

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future - THE TRUTH

2006-06-08 Thread Michael Redler
Thanks Weaver!...if only his dream could be kept alive!Gridlock would take on a whole new meaning and I'd open a burger joint (pun intended) downtown.:-)-RedlerMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Uh, Keith, hate to burst your bubble, but it is well-established that Rudolph

Re: [Biofuel] $100 laptop arrives

2006-06-08 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Its about time they demo it out. They have had the hardware spec for over 2 years and I was told they had a working model over a year ago. Its not easy making a sub $100 laptop. The trick is that you and I will not get to buy them, they are for large million dollar orders only. They want to put

[Biofuel] More hanky panky coming for Ohio voters

2006-06-08 Thread D. Mindock
June 7, 2006NYT Editorial Block the Vote, Ohio Remix If there was ever a sign of a ruling party in trouble, it is a game plan that calls for trying to win by discouraging voting. The latest sign that Republicans have an election-year strategy to shut down voter registration drives comes

Re: [Biofuel] mixing ethoxide (again)

2006-06-08 Thread Michael Redler
How about a stir bar and a magnetic stir plate (on a bigger scale).Something that size may need to be worked up from scratch. The good news is that seal issues would go away.Of course, if you needa fitting at the bottom for a transfer pump, forget everything I said.-RedlerJason Katie