[biofuels-biz] Court spares Japan carmakers in landmark pollution su

2002-10-29 Thread Keith Addison
http://asia.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml;jsessionid=C54TF0SWV1BDWCRB AE0CFFA?type=topnewsStoryID=1646850 Court spares Japan carmakers in landmark pollution suit 29 October, 2002 18:04 GMT+08:00 TOKYO (Reuters) - A Japanese court on Tuesday ordered the central and Tokyo city governments to

Re: [biofuel] We need alternative energy now

2002-10-29 Thread Bryan Fullerton
Your not supposed to drink or smoke that either. Also that has not really been proven either. In fact I doubt it. first off assume you are breathing the exhaust from some old wornout smoking engine that barely runs on dino diesel. What is the main hazardous component you are getting? Right!

Re: [biofuel] We need alternative energy now

2002-10-29 Thread Bryan Fullerton
Ah I see.. and where are the millions that have died from this? Care to compare it with Exhaust from Gas engines? Personally I hate teh smell of exhaust from gas engines, gives me a headache and in traffic youcan always smell it but the only time you smell diesel exhaust is when you have some

Re: [biofuel] We need alternative energy now

2002-10-29 Thread Bryan Fullerton
I heard that one too but I doubt the validity of that mainly because the substances are completely different. They need to do more of a camparison study .. ie comparing toxin parts per million of the various toxins and their known affects. particulate matter is a little different then ciggarette

Re: [biofuel] We need alternative energy now

2002-10-29 Thread Bryan Fullerton
That is a tough one.. I wish you luck... LOL --Bryan - Original Message - From: Tad Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] We need alternative energy now At 09:28 AM 10/27/02 -0500, you wrote: so stop

[biofuel] Car of the future or a lot of hot air?

2002-10-29 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/18354/story.htm Car of the future or a lot of hot air? FRANCE: October 29, 2002 PARIS - Visionary 19th century French writer Jules Verne once described a fantastical future world where cars would run on air. He may not have been totally

RE: [biofuel] Spain studies dropping renewable fuel subsidies

2002-10-29 Thread Manolo Rolan
it's sad but it's true. and goverment is changing the law to give the big companies the power over biofuels market. Manolo Rolan Valencia Spain -Mensaje original- De: Hakan Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: lunes, 28 de octubre de 2002 15:00 Para:

[biofuel] Court spares Japan carmakers in landmark pollution su

2002-10-29 Thread Keith Addison
http://asia.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml;jsessionid=C54TF0SWV1BDWCRB AE0CFFA?type=topnewsStoryID=1646850 Court spares Japan carmakers in landmark pollution suit 29 October, 2002 18:04 GMT+08:00 TOKYO (Reuters) - A Japanese court on Tuesday ordered the central and Tokyo city governments to

Re: [biofuel] Spain studies dropping renewable fuel subsidies

2002-10-29 Thread studio53
Another good reason to move to the US. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Manolo Rolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:30 AM Subject: RE:

[biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread Neil McAnally
Motie - I think you're right on the money - Wellstone was losing, now Mondale's a shoo-in via sympathy. *IF* it was political murder, well, there's no benefit to the republicans that I can see. Neil Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with

[biofuel] Re: Report: Vegetable Oil as a Fuel

2002-10-29 Thread k5farms
Sorry, I was talking short term, I don't plan on the sky falling this year, but people will always have a corner restaraunt as only 10% can gradute high school and cook their own breakfast, there will be plenty of used oil for a long time, but you will prolly have to buy it. The problem with

[biofuel] Re: We need alternative energy now

2002-10-29 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bryan Fullerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BIG SNIP I used to work on big rig diesel engines and it bugs me that they seem to put out alot more stinky exhaust(ie your old 60's bus) I wonder if they could improve that by useing multiple small injectors instead of

[biofuel] Fwd: Re: [Biodiesel] Calfornia CARB guy says good things about new diesels

2002-10-29 Thread John Kelley
I saw this article as well. I thought it would cause a much bigger impact in this group than it has. If CA backs off of their Tier II standards and allows realistic Nox and particulate standards, with scrubbers of course we may actually have a choice of modern diesel sedans to pick from. All

Re: [biofuel] OT: everything in their power

2002-10-29 Thread jfbusby
Steve thats fine. Relax a little and when you find time check your assumption of a 4000 year israeli ownership of that territory by the israelis. If thats true they are counting a great deal of absentee ownership. John - Original Message - From: Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [biofuel] Project Help

2002-10-29 Thread jfbusby
Mellissa I'm a physical chemisr but dumb as dirt in this biofuel but enthralled by it. Be delighted to hear what your doing. John - Original Message - From: MELISSA JAHNKE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: [biofuel] Project Help

Re: [biofuel] Re: Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread William Conrad
(NancyL) WELLSTONE (NancyL) 1. Was there more to the plane crash of Senator Paul Wellstone than CNN is reporting? (NancyL) ZT: As suspected by almost everyone who heard the news, the small plane crash that killed Minnesota Senator Wellstone was hardly an accident. (NancyL) ZT: Bombs set to go off

Re: [biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread Ken Provost
Neil writes: *IF* it was political murder, well, there's no benefit to the republicans that I can see. Check out http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=14399 for a great piece about MANY suspicious plane crashes over the years. Those who don't want to believe it never will -- those who

Re: [biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread William Conrad
Wellstone was the only Senator up for election who opposed Bush on his war mongering demands, coming on the heels of a visit to the state by Bush to raise support for his Republican runners, the hope for recouping Minnesota for the Republicans, which visit failed to muster the needed support, it

RE: [biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread kirk
Another one that got it mysteriously about the time of Diesel was Abner Doble. External combustion solves a lot of fuel problems and Doble had the best. Kirk -Original Message- From: Ken Provost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:48 PM To:

Re: [biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread Tad Johnson
Apple.com. Lol, figures. Tad At 06:48 PM 10/29/02 -0800, you wrote: Neil writes: *IF* it was political murder, well, there's no benefit to the republicans that I can see. Check out http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=14399http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=14399 for a

Re: [biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread Keith Addison
Apple.com. Lol, figures. Tad What figures, exactly? Ken's ISP is apple.com - so what, Windoze user? You're the dumb one. Keith At 06:48 PM 10/29/02 -0800, you wrote: Neil writes: *IF* it was political murder, well, there's no benefit to the republicans that I can see. Check

Re: [biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread Tad Johnson
LMAO, sorry, just seems that most of the conspiracy theories come from that end of the spectrum. I own both Apple and PC, but all my Apple friends always have funny ideas about these things. God love em, they always seem to give me a good laugh. No offence intended = ) Tad At 01:47 PM 10/30/02

Re: [biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread Keith Addison
LMAO, sorry, just seems that most of the conspiracy theories come from that end of the spectrum. I own both Apple and PC, but all my Apple friends always have funny ideas about these things. God love em, they always seem to give me a good laugh. No offence intended = ) Tad :-) I find the

Re: [biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread Tad Johnson
Hehehe, well, I wish it were that cut and dry. Hence the reason I use both. Unlike the adds, I can't do everything I need to do on one machine. I use one for music, surfing, and graphics. The PC for Trading stocks, programming Pic processors and programming math apps. I've been using both and

RE: [biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread Martin
I use Linux, FreeBSD, Windows XP The Linux machine has been up [since I plugged it in] 326 days. It's purpose is a web server, database server, router. The FreeBSD machine is because I am on a slow network here and I miss my Linux machines at home. FreeBSD is similar to Linux in that it is a Unix

Re: [biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hehehe, well, I wish it were that cut and dry. Hence the reason I use both. Unlike the adds, I can't do everything I need to do on one machine. I use one for music, surfing, and graphics. The PC for Trading stocks, programming Pic processors and programming math apps. I've been using both and

Re: [biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread Keith Addison
Quite a few Linux users here it seems, good news. Suits the topic too - small-scale biofuels technology development over the last few years has been rather similar to Open Source. Best Keith On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:09, you wrote: Hehehe, well, I wish it were that cut and dry. Hence the

Re: [biofuel] Pro-privacy, pro-environment senator dies in crash

2002-10-29 Thread Doug Foskey
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:09, you wrote: Hehehe, well, I wish it were that cut and dry. Hence the reason I use both. Unlike the adds, I can't do everything I need to do on one machine. I use one for music, surfing, and graphics. The PC for Trading stocks, programming Pic processors and