[biofuels-biz] More on SUVs

2003-01-14 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/rollover/ frontline: rollover | PBS Rollover - the hidden history of the SUV. They're the most popular vehicle in America. Are they also among the most dengerous? Unsafe on any tire? How safe are SUVs? Should the government do more to protect

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Response on Open letter to Mr. Sam Kazman about SUV interview at CNN.

2003-01-14 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi George, At 03:41 AM 1/14/2003 +, you wrote: Hakan, I agree with you on some points of your letter to Sam and disagree with you on others. Good. I agree with you that SUV drivers are causing injuries unnecessarily. I disagree we should take away the right for a person to own a SUV.

Re: [biofuels-biz] waste oil burners burning glycerine, ffa's

2003-01-14 Thread r . p . kurz
hello tom, placing the drip plate on which you burn your glycerine in a small chamber made from castable refractory would insure a high temperature environment. these refactories can withstand 3000deg.as for the waste btu's could they not be directed thru a heat exchanger for biodiesel processing

Re: [biofuels-biz] waste oil burners burning glycerine, ffa's

2003-01-14 Thread David Teal
Several contributors have spoken about drip plates. I was advised by a prof. of fuel science that dissolving 5% water in the glyc. would cause it to vaporise explosively on contact with the hot plate, so improving atomisation and combustion completeness. Obviously, you would lose the latent

[biofuels-biz] BIODIESEL in Lithuania

2003-01-14 Thread pauliusstanciauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello, I am representative from Kaunas (Lithuania) district municipality. There is an idea to establish a biodiesel factory. But problem is that it's very little information about it. I'm wondering if anybody could give me few suggestions about biodiesel process equipment. What are the

Re: [biofuels-biz] waste oil burners burning glycerine, ffa's

2003-01-14 Thread Keith Addison
Several contributors have spoken about drip plates. I was advised by a prof. of fuel science that dissolving 5% water in the glyc. would cause it to vaporise explosively on contact with the hot plate, so improving atomisation and combustion completeness. Obviously, you would lose the latent

Re: [biofuels-biz] waste oil burners burning glycerine, ffa's Re: [biofuel] Re: biodiesel vs. propane for heating

2003-01-14 Thread Lee Sheppard
Steam generator or turbine to produce electric power. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a couple years experience with burning glycerin. I had to do it, I've got such a large accumulation of the stuff. I've tried it in a couple of wood boilers and in a babington burner. The stuff does burn,

Re: [biofuels-biz] waste oil burners burning glycerine, ffa's

2003-01-14 Thread David Teal
Hi David Was he talking specifically about glyc, or about the complete by-product, with soap/FFA and catalyst? Best Keith I buttonholed him over canapes at a seminar, so could not be that specific. I had the impression that the technique would work with any liquid fuel that was miscible (or

Re: [biofuels-biz] waste oil burners burning glycerine, ffa's

2003-01-14 Thread Tilapia
Yes, heat use for heating the stored oil tanks, space heating, process heat, methanol recover, foot warmers, snow melting, bun warmers, and all that. its just a plumbing extravaganza and it takes a surprising lot of time and effort to get it all working. Tom Leue In a message dated 1/14/03

[biofuels-biz] Re: cooperating on a veg. oil biofuel project in Calif.

2003-01-14 Thread Len Walde
I am exploring the establishment of a veg oil recycling/ biofuel project. and need someone with the technical and business know-how to provide the expertise to set this up. The project would be in the Central Valley of Calif. I need someone with the credentials to provide the on-site consulting

RE: [biofuels-biz] Re: cooperating on a veg. oil biofuel project in Calif.

2003-01-14 Thread Winny De Schryver
Ask for Tim Maneely at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kind regards Winny -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Len Walde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 14 januari 2003 17:30 Aan: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp: [biofuels-biz] Re: cooperating on a veg. oil biofuel project in Calif.

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: cooperating on a veg. oil biofuel project in Calif.

2003-01-14 Thread James Slayden
Len, I am interested, can you tell me more? James Slayden On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Len Walde wrote: I am exploring the establishment of a veg oil recycling/ biofuel project. and need someone with the technical and business know-how to provide the expertise to set this up. The project would

[biofuels-biz] See you later

2003-01-14 Thread Keith Addison
We're one hour from leaving Osaka, moving house (and the whole project) to Ichijima, so I'll sign off and say goodbye for now. We should be able to hook up again tomorrow sometime. Sorry if some things are a bit slow till then, can't be helped. All best Keith Midori Journey to Forever

[biofuel] Re: RE:Ag subsidies

2003-01-14 Thread Keith Addison
Yes, well, Motie, you've certainly demonised the poor old Sierra Club, they couldn't be that effectively demonic no matter how hard they tried. Among lobbiests in Washington they and the other enviros are considered a joke, and they are, a bit, especially by comparison with real industry

[biofuel] More on SUVs

2003-01-14 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/rollover/ frontline: rollover | PBS Rollover - the hidden history of the SUV. They're the most popular vehicle in America. Are they also among the most dengerous? Unsafe on any tire? How safe are SUVs? Should the government do more to protect

[biofuel] Re: RE:Ag subsidies

2003-01-14 Thread motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, well, Motie, you've certainly demonised the poor old Sierra Club, they couldn't be that effectively demonic no matter how hard they tried. Among lobbiests in Washington they and the other enviros are considered a

[biofuel] Re: RE:Ag subsidies

2003-01-14 Thread Keith Addison
Motie, I'm quite surprised. We had all this out previously in a lengthy discussion with Greg that centred on this news story, and on the GAO report it references. http://ens-news.com/ens/jul2002/2002-07-11-06.asp Conflicting Reports Shade Forest Fire Debate It debunks what you're saying,

RE: [biofuel] capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread Crabb, David
This looks rather nice, but since that is about 6 feet tall, it certainly won't fit in my CRX. On this item, what is the approximate cost, in qty of 1 or 2? Does anyone know the efficiency of this beast? It looks like it can run on compression-ignition fuels.diesel, biodiesel,VO. One could

[biofuel] Smart car CDI on biodiesel?

2003-01-14 Thread Poch
just thinking if its possible to run the Smart Car CDI on biodiesel. then it would really be the most environmentaly safe car in the planet. too bad its not available here in manila. Cheers Poch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html

[biofuel] Fiat UNO Diesel on Biodiesel?

2003-01-14 Thread Poch
anyone here owns and runs a Fiat UNO diesel car on biodiesel. any feedback will be appreciated. looking for a small used diesel car in manila and i came upon a great deal on a Fiat UNO diesel car 1992. im on a very tight budget. Cheers Poch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

[biofuel] Diesel

2003-01-14 Thread David Wood
Ok so why is it so hard to locate a small diesel.. 3 to 5 HP OR, being mechanically inclined, does anyone know where i can find a single stage Diesel injector so i can make my own 3-5Hp diesel motor. Guess i will have to look into Diesel's patents. Thanks David Wood Biofuel at Journey to

Re: [biofuel] Fiat UNO Diesel on Biodiesel?

2003-01-14 Thread Ken Basterfield
I presume it is the 1.9 litre diesel that you are talking about. Avoid it like the plague, they drop inlet valves and break camshafts for a pastime.Fiat have recently taken to using the Peugeot 1.9 and that is much much better. 1992 is a FIAT! Ken - Original Message - From: Poch [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] More on SUVs

2003-01-14 Thread Ken Basterfield
SUV doesn't mean much to me in dear old Blighty. What are they that cause so much consternation. Is my Range Rover one of these? ken - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:08

[biofuel] Re: RE:Ag subsidies

2003-01-14 Thread motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Motie, I'm quite surprised. We had all this out previously in a lengthy discussion with Greg that centred on this news story, and on the GAO report it references. http://ens-news.com/ens/jul2002/2002-07-11-06.asp

RE: [biofuel] More on SUVs

2003-01-14 Thread Ryan Morgan
Your Range Rover is tied for the least fuel efficint, most polluting SUV. Congratulations, I hope you don't drive it to work. (Unless you work in the Serengeti.) -Original Message- From: Ken Basterfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:28 PM To:

Re: [biofuel] capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread craig reece
Todd, What's CHP? And - does anyone know if these would qualify for California's rebates (that are in place for PV systems - up to 50% of cost is rebated.) Craig Appal Energy wrote: Rumour has it ~$30,000 per unit. They can be set up for CHP. Waste exhaust is monoxide free enough to feed

Re: [biofuel] capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread Appal Energy
Rumour has it ~$30,000 per unit. They can be set up for CHP. Waste exhaust is monoxide free enough to feed CO2 for a greenhouse. - Original Message - From: Crabb, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] capstone

Re: [biofuel] capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread craig reece
James, Another question - the Capstone will run on diesel, which means it *should* run on bioD, and maybe on WVO/SVO if the fuel were heated and subjected to the usual SVO bag o' tricks - but will California give a rebate for alternative fuels when they might recognize that some folks might just

Re: [biofuel] More on SUVs

2003-01-14 Thread Appal Energy
Fore runner of the SUV. Yes. - Original Message - From: Ken Basterfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] More on SUVs SUV doesn't mean much to me in dear old Blighty. What are

Re: [biofuel] capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread James Slayden
Combined heat and power. There is a rebate on any generating device using alternative fuels, something like $2Kw up to a certain limit. I have the info somewhere. There are rebates on PV, Wind, alternative fuels, and hydro. Lemme look further. BTW, this is only for businesses. James

[biofuel] Euro and US Biodiesel Issues

2003-01-14 Thread nortonvillars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am new to the forum and this is a note I put on the TDi site. Currently, I am advising energy firms on biodiesel production. I owned one of the first VW Rabbit Diesels in 1978 and lived in Europe, where I had a Peugeot 405 Turbo Diesel. I am looking to buy a Tdi or old MB 300SD. Here is

Re: [biofuel] capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread craig reece
James, Thanks a bunch - I'll check it out. I have a client who's thinking of installing a diesel genset -which I'd convert to run on WVO, it says here - for his tile warehouse and offices - but if the Capstone turbine would run on bioD or WVO *and* get the State of California rebates, that would

Re: [biofuel] capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread James Slayden
I would assume that to get the credit the setup would have to be verified by the appropiate athorities. Here is some info on the wind and PV credits (last year I believe): http://www.taosgreensolar.com/california_page.htm Wow, I didn't realize that the rebate for PV/Wind/Hydro is $4.50 per

RE: [biofuel] capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread James Slayden
David, check this link out: http://www.microturbine.com/applications/hybrid.asp They have the emissions data there. It looks like it has a 70% reduction in emissions, added with biodiesel that would be another 70-90% for B100 of the left over 30, so let's say maybe a PZEV for the application

[biofuel] WVO Availability

2003-01-14 Thread Robin Parker
What ideas has anyone come up with to get a decent supply of WVO? I'm thinking more of the small town approach - small industrial (logging, mining etc) of 30,000 or less. You have all the fast foods but realistically the turn over of VO is not that great. These towns have huge potential

Re: [biofuel] Euro and US Biodiesel Issues

2003-01-14 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi, If you do an analyze of diesel in Europe and diesel in US, it is larger difference than biodiesel Europe and biodiesel US. The logic then would be that warranty for VW diesel cars are not valid at all in US. We know that they have warranty for the low quality US diesel. Where in Europe did

Re: [biofuel] WVO Availability

2003-01-14 Thread girl mark
you'd be surprised at how much vegetable oil comes out of a small town of loggers, miners, and other working folk (i've checked this out pretty thoroughly hunting grease on a few long road trips). It seems like it wouldn't be much but that is wrong- fast food restaurants really put out huge

Vegetable shortening as fuel (was Re: [biofuel] WVO Availability

2003-01-14 Thread craig reece
Robin, Looks like Mark can make biodiesel with it, so you've gotten that answer. In case you're considering using it for a straight vegetable oil conversion, I would say sure to that as well, provided you provide your vehicle with some good dependable in-tank heating. I'd recommend the Webb

Re: [biofuel] WVO Availability

2003-01-14 Thread Craig Pech
Robin, The average person will consume 2 gallons of veg oil per year - 60,000 gallons in your town. Add a few surrounding towns and you should reach 100,000 gallons. The ease of getting supplies will vary by what your competitor is charging to pick it up. In Wisconsin they are charging $55 per

Re: [biofuel] WVO Availability

2003-01-14 Thread Robin Parker
Another question I have: A lot of fast food outlets use vegetable shortening - it's hard at room temperature but melts in the fryers. Can this stuff be used? Robin Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/

[biofuel] See you later

2003-01-14 Thread Keith Addison
We're one hour from leaving Osaka, moving house (and the whole project) to Ichijima, so I'll sign off and say goodbye for now. We should be able to hook up again tomorrow sometime. Sorry if some things are a bit slow till then, can't be helped. All best Keith Midori Journey to Forever

Re: [biofuel] WVO Availability

2003-01-14 Thread girl mark
sure! Mark At 06:46 PM 1/14/2003 -0800, you wrote: Another question I have: A lot of fast food outlets use vegetable shortening - it's hard at room temperature but melts in the fryers. Can this stuff be used? Robin Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT

[biofuel] Fwd: Waste Oil Furnace

2003-01-14 Thread girl mark
Hi folks, we were talking about those commercially available waste oil burners. Here's one price, and a letter I got from a dealer of one brand. Like I said, it's something to try and find a used version of... though there's all kinds of homemade versions out there (such as the plans on

[biofuel] Re: See you later

2003-01-14 Thread motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're one hour from leaving Osaka, moving house (and the whole project) to Ichijima, so I'll sign off and say goodbye for now. We should be able to hook up again tomorrow sometime. Sorry if some things are a bit slow

Re: [biofuel] See you later

2003-01-14 Thread Hakan Falk
Good luck in your new home. Hakan At 12:12 PM 1/15/2003 +0900, you wrote: We're one hour from leaving Osaka, moving house (and the whole project) to Ichijima, so I'll sign off and say goodbye for now. We should be able to hook up again tomorrow sometime. Sorry if some things are a bit slow

Re: [biofuel] capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread Appal Energy
CHP - Continual Heat Power. Power from direct drive or steam generation. Secondary heat from waste exhaust or spent steam heat exchange and recovery. They probably qualify for a rebate somewhere if you're using landfill gas or biomass (producer gases) or biodiesel as the fuel sources. Multiple

Re: [biofuel] capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread Appal Energy
California have reservations? Sure. Receipts or production records should be convincing enough should they care to do an audit. And yes. I believe they can tune a model for waste crankcase oil, which would mean they can tune one for veg oil. I did get an upturned eyebrow when I requested info

Re: [biofuel] capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread Appal Energy
Wow, I didn't realize that the rebate for PV/Wind/Hydro is $4.50 per watt!! that is quite good. Was as high as $5.00/kW in the oulying areas of the Bay last year about this time. Had a lot of pro-nukers shooting it down as overly subsidized and laying false claims that the various utilities

Re: [biofuel] WVO Availability

2003-01-14 Thread Appal Energy
There is only one primary point source for WVO - VO users. It's up to the biodiesel manufacturer who wants to use this feedstock to overcome the logistic issues. It's doable and profitable. Start looking at operating one 1,500 to 3,000 gpd facility for every 30,000 plus population center (or

Re: [biofuel] capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread craig reece
Thanks, Todd. Craig Appal Energy wrote: CHP - Continual Heat Power. Power from direct drive or steam generation. Secondary heat from waste exhaust or spent steam heat exchange and recovery. They probably qualify for a rebate somewhere if you're using landfill gas or biomass (producer

[biofuel] Hey Todd Was: capstone turbine generator

2003-01-14 Thread csakima
Hey Todd!! Wuz up!! Long time no hear! Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: