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EERE NETWORK NEWS -- November 19, 2003
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Keith,
As always, I'm wonderfully impressed with your filing system for a summary on
a topic. I agree that the viscometer test will not provide an absolute test
for the completion of the esterification reaction, unless one runs a detailed
calibration curve for a particular oil against results
Darren, as per the ACREVO report, 9%. Make sure you use ethanol not
methanol. The methanol will break from the emulsion and sit happily in a
seperate layer within an hour. Whereas the ethanol will stay in emulsion.
I'm not sure about the cetane improver or the peroxide (eg I don't have
a
Hello Tom
Keith,
As always, I'm wonderfully impressed with your filing system for a summary on
a topic.
:-) No need to be impressed, it's dead easy - easier than not, IMO,
or who'd ever have the time? Not me, for sure. Check this out:
http://archive.nnytech.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/21700/
I agree
G'day Keith
As far as solid resultsno. Yes as per ACREVO report, 9% ethanol
emulsified into the vege oil. I found the fuel excellent and it burned
cleaned at the exhaust. Talking to a couple of other fellas, they also
have tried it and it worked well, but they did caution that some fuel
G'day Steven
G'day Keith
As far as solid resultsno.
Well, do take some photographs whenever you get the head pulled of.
Yes as per ACREVO report, 9% ethanol
emulsified into the vege oil. I found the fuel excellent and it burned
cleaned at the exhaust. Talking to a couple of other fellas,
Hello All,
I am gathering materials to build a closed processor and have some
questions that I am sure are rather elementary, but here goes:
I have heard it mentioned that the processor can build up pressure. Why
and how much? Should I have a pressure relief valve for safety?
I'm undecided
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EERE NETWORK NEWS -- November 19, 2003
A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE)
Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE).
http://www.eere.energy.gov/
Thanks. I guess that a magic bullet (or bug in this case) that you mix
with WVO to make BD is a long way away.
-BRAH
-Original Message-
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:50 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [biofuel] GE
Thank you Keith and Todd.
I appreciate the benefit of your experience.
Can I suggest that you are very likely to be hearing a lot more from
people like me; sincere about getting off petrol, intelligent, busy with
the rest of their life, not mechanical.
(Todd, this does not put us out of our
Hi , folks!
I'm thinking for quite a while about a business case of power generation
on a farm - or in a rural area.
Let's suppose that I'm a farmer with 200 acres. I grow canola - then
press it into oil.
So, if I get a harvest of 200 tons of canola seeds, I press it into
200,000 litters of
Hi Alex,
i have a 100kva Generator,he uses on small Load 6ltr. and on havy load up to
24ltr. an hour on Diesel.
So you run the Generator for one year
regards,
Fritz from Quebec
- Original Message -
From: alex
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 12:48
It's a decent concept, but your 100kw generators are going to be
inefficient and waste a lot of your energy. Not to mention they probably
aren't designed to run for long periods of time continuously at high
power output.
Also, you're essentially taking solar power, converting it to chemical
I'm in Ontario!
There is lots of talk about grid problems in NA.
We have lots of Canola fields here in Ontario. If every farmer will put
a generator in his field and
start generating electricity...sorry to say, but it can put nuclear
folks out of business.
Alex
Martin Klingensmith wrote:
Hello Tom
Keith,
As always, I'm wonderfully impressed with your filing system for a summary on
a topic.
:-) No need to be impressed, it's dead easy - easier than not, IMO,
or who'd ever have the time? Not me, for sure. Check this out:
http://archive.nnytech.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/21700/
I agree
Good point. Remember as well that most electric power needs falls in
two spikes, AM and PM rush. If you can run a generator for a few hours
in the AM and PM then that's really all you'd need to decrease
consumption during spike times, let alone run your farms on it. I know
little of the
On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, at 12:36 PM, Keith Addison wrote:
In reply to -- a cheap viscometer will not produce results as good
as a
more sophisticated instrument.
The trouble is that it won't produce results that are good enough to
be practically useful.
I gotta put in my
Alex,
This depends on what your local electricity distribution association can
pay you and also what legislation that might exist in Canada for this.
Often on the country side, you might have a local electricity distribution
association, who buy and distribute from the central grid. They can
Hakan,
I like to swim in the winter!
Alex
Hakan Falk wrote:
Alex,
This depends on what your local electricity distribution association can
pay you and also what legislation that might exist in Canada for this.
Often on the country side, you might have a local electricity distribution
On a serious side, I strongly believe in the power of land.
Land gives independance.
Alex
Hakan Falk wrote:
Alex,
This depends on what your local electricity distribution association can
pay you and also what legislation that might exist in Canada for this.
Often on the country side, you
Sorry, I missed Alex's original post (Yahoo is bouncing me about twice a week
lately).
In a rural area in Ontario, odds are that your grid connection will be directly
with Hydro One (formerly Hydro Ontario). Expect to be disappointed.
Prior to the recent provincial election, the previous
Darryl,
this is very interesting.
Long time ago I was talking to Caterpillar people who were pushing their
generators, and I talked to some
people in Ontario Hydro ( an old one, not privitized yet).
From what I can see not much changed..
Yes, its hard to get into utility's busines. Mike Harris
Does anyone know of a currrent Bio-Deisel group that is capable of
producing roughly 700 tons of Biodeisel a day?
If so, do you possibly know the price per ton?
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Sorry Alex,
Yes, I could not be of much help. The only thing I could go after is some
knowledge how it is handled in Sweden, Germany and Spain. Those cases are
different and Spain is maybe the most corruptive with terms most favorable
to established business interests. Germany is the best on
Randal,
Constructing a complete biodiesel system is a piece of cake. For the same
money that you might have spent at some of the sharpie sites that you
pointed out, you can build a far more environmentally sound cradle to
grave system and still have enough money left over for a 3 week trip to
Short tons or metric tons?
Only one place to find such an animal. That would be the soybean
cooperatives across the face of the US. No single plant on the North
American continent can give you the volume that you are inquiring about.
You probably don't want to get into a discussion about GM
Oh, that's nice! (I got it too.) Can I upload it?
Keith
Randal,
Constructing a complete biodiesel system is a piece of cake. For the same
money that you might have spent at some of the sharpie sites that you
pointed out, you can build a far more environmentally sound cradle to
grave system and
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