Re: [Biofuel] Solar.....

2004-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dunlap
Hi there, No problem at all. I have a contact at Expo Power Systems, Inc. Because of the number I’m buying, I’m able to get them at this price. The web site is, www.expopower.com For just a moment here I did not think anyone would ever answer the post. This was not what I was looking

Re: [Biofuel] RE: Fire ants wasZXZX

2004-10-09 Thread B. Nostrand
we're in oregon as well and tried equal parts borax with sugar. all to no avail. the yeast does the trick? rbury - Original Message - From: Energy Recovery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: Fire ants wasZXZX No

RE: [Biofuel] RE: Fire ants wasZXZX

2004-10-09 Thread John Turmel
Hello, Im in Texas, the recipe I use is equal parts borax, sugar and flour. The flour is suposed get them to actually eat the borax, otherwise they leave it behind and so nothing happens (Im not so sure that is exactly what happens). But, it works great when it works... there are many

Re: [Biofuel] RE: Fire ants wasZXZX

2004-10-09 Thread Jon Kimbrough
the science doesn't support it. It seems that ants don't eat, they only drink moisture/liquids from the surface of their foods. Check out this web site: http://www.organicgardening.com/feature/0,7518,s1-5-22-119,00.html Also see the paragraph on home remedies from the Fire and Control web

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Lyle Estill
would be a better choice, 65% energy loss from end to end? To deliver electrons to Rob's guitar? That strikes me as a bargain compared to creating biodiesel and combusting it for electrons. I just figured the energy loss from end to end would be much worse with a little generator compared

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Lyle Estill
from svo is a monumental waste of energy. On Oct 8, 2004, at 2:54 PM, Robert Del Bueno wrote: I never intended the use of biodiesel. The idea is for reclaimed waste vegetable oils. I am curious on if anyone has given thought to the emissions per kWh of such a setup versus coal fired plant

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Greg Harbican
And this is based on what theory? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Lyle Estill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 19:17 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset Ok. Let's leave the same proposition out there. Creating electricity

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Greg Harbican
Based on what? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Lyle Estill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 19:12 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset You are right. Efficient might be the wrong word. Perhaps bargain would be a better

RE: [Biofuel] HELP

2004-10-09 Thread dwoodard
My guess is that lawn mower and lawn tractor engines are fairly low compression and not fussy about fuel. I would not try any amount of biodiesel in a high performance gasoline engine like a car engine, For gasoline engines I would think that ethanol blends with gasoline are much to be

Re: Was Re: [Biofuel] Changing Government/Now ethanol

2004-10-09 Thread Ken Riznyk
Any diesel engine will run on kerosene. Now that diesel is $2.15 per gallon in the US I'm running kerosene in my Jetta diesel. $1.59 per gallon. It's illegal but I don't really care about that. --- Gasman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Phil, - Original Message - From: Keith Addison

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Appal Energy
Start Here: Vegetable oil has the potential to be 100% carbon neutral and is probably already ~90% carbon neutral despite fossil fuels used in its production, refining and transportation. Fossil fuel is 100% carbon negative right out of the chute and if you include mining, refining and

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Appal Energy
What point are you trying to convey when you say this Lyle? That strikes me as a bargain compared to creating biodiesel and combusting it for electrons. You don't even have the numbers relative to production efficiencies for biodiesel to electricity and you draw such a conclusion? Much less

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Appal Energy
Where in the world do you come up with this conclusion Lyle? Creating electricity from svo is a monumental waste of energy. - Original Message - From: Lyle Estill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via

Re: [Biofuel] Solar.....

2004-10-09 Thread MASUD OMAR
Could some one please introduce me with some manufacturers of solar home system,which could be used in Bangladesh. Best regards. Masud Omar At 01:12 PM 10/8/04 -0700, you wrote: Hi there, No problem at all. I have a contact at Expo Power Systems, Inc. Because of the number Iâm buying,

Re: [Biofuel] RE: Fire ants wasZXZX

2004-10-09 Thread Kirk McLoren
I used boric acid and egg yolk for the common German cockroach when I lived in Southern California. They like egg yolk so much they don't run when the light is first turned on. I think whatever ants like but with boric acid not borax would do the trick. I use a heaping teaspoon of cinammon

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread frag lag
The impossibility to use it worldwide? if we plant for it , there's no more space for food... From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:29:29 -0500 Start Here: Vegetable

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread MH
Lyle Estill wrote: Ok. Let's leave the same proposition out there. Creating electricity from svo is a monumental waste of energy. If it takes three train cars of coal to make one train car of electricity how many train cars are necessary using wind turbines? Is there any added benefit

RE: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread John Mullan
I'll plead ignorance right off the bat. But is fossil fuel truely carbon negative? The plants and animals they are derived from were living and breathing albeit a few million years ago. It's just been held in escrow for a while :) It's just the human virus that's releasing it all in a short

RE: [Biofuel] HELP

2004-10-09 Thread John Mullan
Hi Doug. Just a quick note to say Hi from Niagara Falls. You are the closest Canadian I've met on the lists. Cheers. John Mullan Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 8, 2004 10:45

Re: [Biofuel] Solar.....

2004-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dunlap
Here is one that is very good and will work in Bangladesh. http://www.wholesalesolar.com/products.folder/module-folder/shell/sm110_12P.html Best regards, Jonathan MASUD OMAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Could some one please introduce me with some manufacturers of solar home

Re: [Biofuel] Solar.....

2004-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dunlap
Another place to check http://seasunlighting.en.alibaba.com/product/50032635/50149366/Solar_Chargers/Solar_Panel.html Jonathan Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Here is one that is very good and will work in Bangladesh.

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Keith Addison
here's one . The impossibility to use it worldwide? if we plant for it , there's no more space for food... Nonsense - what a tired old non-argument that is. If you ask the wrong question you get the wrong answer. How much biofuels will it take... How much land will it take... For what? To

[Biofuel] Cold Weather Processing

2004-10-09 Thread Legal Eagle
G'day; Well, I have come across another part of the learning curve. My processor/wash tank combo resides in a non-winterized pump house and the last two times I have processed a batch of BD (80liters each) I had a problem with saponification/emulsion and I believe I have it figured out. As a

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Greg Harbican
- Original Message - From: frag lag [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 02:42 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset here's one . The impossibility to use it worldwide? if we plant for it , there's no more space for food... Very

Re: [Biofuel] RE: Fire ants wasZXZX

2004-10-09 Thread Kim Garth Travis
don't seem to die from it. Could you please give further information of this method? My barn and home are under the same roof so every time I bring home a load of hay, I get an invasion. I use stevia to sweeten beverages and it has the side effect of lowering blood pressure, but not as

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Greg Harbican
- Original Message - From: John Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 04:56 Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset I'll plead ignorance right off the bat. But is fossil fuel truely carbon negative? The plants and animals they

Re: [Biofuel] Emissions per kwh Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Robert - Emisssions per kwh can be obtained from EPA. P. Wolfe --- Robert Del Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never intended the use of biodiesel. The idea is for reclaimed waste vegetable oils. I am curious on if anyone has given thought to the emissions per kWh of such a setup

Re: [Biofuel] Magnets -was: Cellulosic Ethanol

2004-10-09 Thread MH
How about this one... I invented a system to drasticly improve fuel milage. I stick a couple on my front bumper. When on the freeway, I accelerate - into the back of a large semi 18 wheeler. CLUNK-my car becomes attached. I then turn off my engine. Sure beats cruize control! A light tap

[Biofuel] RE: Message for Doug Woodward

2004-10-09 Thread Gregg Davidson
Hi Doug, You're probably right about the lawn mower / lawn tractor engines may not be fussy about Biodiesel mixed in the gas. Now as to a car engine, that's a different story. In June of this year, I posed a question about Biodiesel in gasoline engines. I received a reply from list member JC

Re: Was Re: [Biofuel] Changing Government/Now ethanol

2004-10-09 Thread Greg Harbican
- Original Message - From: Ken Riznyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 22:26 Subject: Re: Was Re: [Biofuel] Changing Government/Now ethanol Any diesel engine will run on kerosene. Now that diesel is $2.15 per gallon in the US I'm running

Re: [Biofuel] Petrol/Paraffin Motor ?

2004-10-09 Thread Greg Harbican
Kerosene while very similar to Diesel #1, but, it is not diesel. It does not provide anywhere near the lubrication that diesel does. You can end up killing a diesel engine if you run it on nothing but kerosene. - Original Message - From: Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Appal Energy
This is absolutely false. here's one . The impossibility to use it worldwide? if we plant for it , there's no more space for food... To fill in the blanks, you're saying that if we grow biomass for fuel then the resulting consequence is that we'll starve. Feedlot cattle consume 16#s of

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Appal Energy
Sure. Fossil fuels are carbon neutral. But only until they're combusted. It's the human demand and the geologic time required to resequester the emissons that wipes out their neutrality. Large difference between millions of years for sequestration and one year for biofuels. Todd Swearingen

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread frag lag
From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 10:50:43 -0500 This is absolutely false. here's one . The impossibility to use it worldwide? if we plant for it , there's no

[Biofuel] Oil Wars

2004-10-09 Thread Keith Addison
Published on Friday, October 8, 2004 by TomDispatch.com Oil Wars Transforming the American Military into a Global Oil-Protection Service by Michael T. Klare In the first U.S. combat operation of the war in Iraq, Navy commandos stormed an offshore oil-loading platform. Swooping silently out

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Keith Addison
here's one . The impossibility to use it worldwide? if we plant for it , there's no more space for food... For instance... It's easy to substitute fuel for food in this article, or in just about anything to do with city farms. Living on the Earth, March 10, 2000: Ignoring a Solution

[Biofuel] China Enacts Fuel Standards for Cars

2004-10-09 Thread Keith Addison
MYPSPSECTION=HOMETEMPLATE=DEFAULT The Associated Press Oct 8, 10:17 AM EDT China Enacts Fuel Standards for Cars SHANGHAI, China (AP) -- China has introduced its first fuel-efficiency standards for passenger cars, moving to control soaring oil consumption and ensure foreign automakers share

[Biofuel] West Waking Up to Dangers of Oil Addiction

2004-10-09 Thread Keith Addison
West Waking Up to Dangers of Oil Addiction October 08, 2004 - By Andrew Mitchell, Reuters LONDON - Controlling growth in fuel consumption may become a strategic imperative for the West, as explosive demand growth in Asia threatens a damaging tussle for world supplies. Industrialized

[Biofuel] Oil serves but also burns us

2004-10-09 Thread Keith Addison
Outside View Oil serves but also burns us DUBAI, (UPI) United Arab Emirates, Oct. 5 , 2004 - By mixing oil with politics in Iraq, the United States has started a fire it cannot put out. The Iraqi oil industry, and with it vital exports of Iraqi oil, has collapsed. Compounding matters,

Re: [Biofuel] reverse pump washing???

2004-10-09 Thread Keith Addison
Im going to try something this weekend. instead of pumping water through the fuel during the wash Im going to pump the fuel down to the bottom of the wash vessel. I just thought instead of putting tiny amounts of water through the fuel maybe I could pump tiny amount of fuel through the

Re: [Biofuel] Cold Weather Processing

2004-10-09 Thread Keith Addison
G'day; Well, I have come across another part of the learning curve. I was looking at some of your earlier posts, very interesting to chart your progress in the last six months or so. The learning curve is a bit like completion in the process, it never quite gets there, and the curve

Re: [Biofuel] Magnets

2004-10-09 Thread Kirk McLoren
Yes, the free energy folks are a breed of birds unto themselves. Kirk When the war on terror is over, there will be no more terror. Just like the war on drugs, and you can't buy drugs anymore MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shoot. Bygolly has I gotcha ah hybrid veehickle fur yall.

Re: Was Re: [Biofuel] Changing Government/Now ethanol

2004-10-09 Thread Martin Klingensmith
Any diesel engine will run on kerosene. Now that diesel is $2.15 per gallon in the US I'm running kerosene in my Jetta diesel. $1.59 per gallon. It's illegal but I don't really care about that. Do you know how the lubricity compares between the two? -- Martin Klingensmith

Re: [Biofuel] RE: Fire ants wasZXZX

2004-10-09 Thread Kirk McLoren
They love egg yolk so they eat it. Sprinkling it only gets them to ingest what they get when they clean their legs. Mix it in the yolk. When it dries out make some more. Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks, I know boric acid will keep them out of my cupboards, but they don't

Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset

2004-10-09 Thread Kirk McLoren
Then we have centralized power plants utilizing part of the generated power to run pumps and fans to cool the bottom end of the cycle instead of the heat being available as process heat, hot water or space heat. Then we have right of ways and condemnation of private property to route

RE: [Biofuel] Petrol/Paraffin Motor ?

2004-10-09 Thread Christopher
Hi Max: I have a few questions for clarification. Are you saying that you are running two of your petron engine cars on kerosine? Kerosene is actually diesel fuel no.1, right? And the dino-diesel we usually use is diesel no.2 which is less refined than no.1. So what you are saying is that you

Re: [Biofuel] Magnets

2004-10-09 Thread MH
Shoot. Bygolly has I gotcha ah hybrid veehickle fur yall. Model T Magnetic Engine 04/06/97 http://www.keelynet.com/energy/ford.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to

RE: [Biofuel] Magnets -was: Cellulosic Ethanol -was: US Minnesota Fuels Plan... MAGNETS

2004-10-09 Thread Christopher
The owner of this site recommends using magnets. http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/diesel.htm He says he doesn't know how it works but that it just works. The site is about diesel motorcycles. Best, Christopher -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL