Re: [Biofuel] production of ethanol from wheat flour -- yeast selection

2004-10-18 Thread Kirk McLoren

The quantity and type of yeast and tank volume is
CRITICAL if being done commercially. The quantity of
innoculant must be calculated accurately as the final
yield of yeast bodies can vary as much as 50%. Sugar
used to make yeast bodies is not available as alcohol.

Kirk



--- Kenneth Kron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Ken Provost wrote:
 
 on 10/17/04 7:43 AM, Sandra MAURIAC at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
 I'm a French student and I'm trying to produce
 ethanol by first dissolving
 wheat flour in water. Has anybody heard of this
 process and knows which
 quantities to use ? Thanks
 
 
 
 I would recommend cracked wheat (maybe 2-3 mm
 average size) rather than
 flour -- the flour will convert faster but will
 make a sticky mess!
 You'll also need a source of enzymes, either
 purified or supplied by
 malt (malted wheat would be fine, or malted
 barley). If you have a
 homebrew beer shop nearby, they could supply all
 the ingredients as
 well as proportions. Basically, you'll just be
 making an all-wheat beer,
 and then (presumably) distilling it .  -K
   
 
 You'll want to choose your yeast carefully.  For
 example champagne yeast 
 will produce a much higher percentage of alchohol
 than beer yeast will, 
 due to thier ability to survive the higher alchohol
 content before dying 
 off.  Some other factors may be important to you and
 I don't think taste 
 is going to be one of them!
 
 kk
 
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[Biofuel] Hydrogen From Renewable Fuels

2004-10-18 Thread MH

 Ethanol CH3 CH2 OH 

 New Reactor Puts Hydrogen From Renewable Fuels Within Reach
 Source:  University Of Minnesota
 Feb 12, 2004
 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/02/040214081412.htm -or-
 
http://www.ur.umn.edu/FMPro?-db=releases-lay=web-format=unsreleases/releasesdetail.htmlID=1155-Find
 

 MINNEAPOLIS / ST. PAUL (2/12/2004) -- The first reactor
 capable of producing hydrogen from a renewable fuel source -
 ethanol - efficiently enough to hold economic potential has
 been invented by University of Minnesota engineers. When
 coupled with a hydrogen fuel cell, the unit - small enough to
 hold in your hand - could generate one kilowatt of power,
 almost enough to supply an average home, the researchers
 said. The technology is poised to remove the major stumbling
 block to the ãhydrogen economyä: no free hydrogen exists,
 except what is made at high cost from fossil fuels. The work
 will be published in the Feb. 13 issue of Science. 

 The researchers see an early use for their invention in remote
 areas, where the installation of new power lines is not feasible.
 People could buy ethanol and use it to power small hydrogen
 fuel cells in their basements. The process could also be
 extended to biodiesel fuels, the researchers said. Its benefits
 include reducing dependence on imported fuels, reducing
 carbon dioxide emissions (because the carbon dioxide
 produced by the reaction is stored in the next yearâs corn
 crop) and boosting rural economies.

 Hydrogen is now produced exclusively by a process called
 steam reforming, which requires very high temperatures and
 large furnaces÷in other words, a huge input of energy. Itâs
 unsuitable for any application except large-scale refineries, said
 Lanny Schmidt, Regents Professor of Chemical Engineering,
 who led the effort. Working with him were scientist Gregg
 Deluga, first author of the Science paper, and graduate student
 James Salge. All three are in the universityâs department of
 chemical engineering and materials science.

 ãThe hydrogen economy means cars and electricity powered
 by hydrogen,ä said Schmidt. ãBut hydrogen is hard to come
 by. You canât pipe it long distances. There are a few hydrogen
 fueling stations, but they strip hydrogen from
 methane÷natural gas÷on site. Itâs expensive, and because it
 uses fossil fuels, it increases carbon dioxide emissions, so this
 is only a short-term solution until renewable hydrogen is
 available.ä 

 Ethanol is easy to transport and relatively nontoxic. It is
 already being produced from corn and used in car engines. But
 if it were used instead to produce hydrogen for a fuel cell, the
 whole process would be nearly three times as efficient. That
 is, a bushel of corn would yield three times as much power if
 its energy were channeled into hydrogen fuel cells rather than
 burned along with gasoline. 

 ãWe can potentially capture 50 percent of the energy stored in
 sugar [in corn], whereas converting the sugar to ethanol and
 burning the ethanol in a car would harvest only 20 percent of
 the energy in sugar,ä said Schmidt. ãEthanol in car engines is
 burned with 20 percent efficiency, but if you used ethanol to
 make hydrogen for a fuel cell, you would get 60 percent
 efficiency.ä 

 The difference, Deluga explained, is due in large part to the
 need to remove all the water from ethanol before it can be put
 in an automobile gas tank÷and the last drops of water are the
 hardest to remove. But the new process doesnât require pure
 ethanol; in fact, it strips hydrogen from both ethanol and
 water, yielding a hydrogen bonus. 

 The invention rests on two innovations: a catalyst based on the
 metals rhodium and ceria, and an automotive fuel injector that
 vaporizes and mixes the ethanol-water fuel. The vaporized fuel
 mixture is injected into a tube that contains a porous plug made
 from rhodium and ceria. The fuel mixture passes through the
 plug and emerges as a mixture of hydrogen, carbon dioxide
 and minor products. The reaction takes only 50 milliseconds
 and eliminates the flames and soot that commonly accompany
 ethanol combustion. 

 In a typical ethanol-water fuel mixture, one could ideally get
 five molecules of hydrogen for each molecule of ethanol.
 Reacting ethanol alone would yield three hydrogen molecules.
 So far, the Schmidt team has harvested four hydrogen
 molecules per ethanol molecule. 

 ãWeâre confident we can improve this technology to increase
 the yield of hydrogen and use it to power a workable fuel cell,ä
 said Salge. 

 The work was supported by the University of Minnesotaâs
 Initiative on Renewable Energy and the Environment, the
 National Science Foundation and the U.S. Department of
 Energy.


 More about the research grants including ethanol reactor photo -- 
 http://www.cbs.umn.edu/main/aboutcbs/bio/spring2004/abstracts.html 
  

 Related news posts -- 

 [biofuel] Hydrogen Reactor  2004-02-13
 http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/31956/ 

 [biofuel] Re: Scientists 

Re: [Biofuel] Hydrogen From Renewable Fuels

2004-10-18 Thread MH

 [biofuel] EERE Network News -- 02/18/04
 http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/32089/
 Engineers Find Economical Way to Make Hydrogen from Ethanol 
 and just below Novozymes enzyme cost break through. 

 Oops, sorry.
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RE: [Biofuel] Kerry left leaning Polls

2004-10-18 Thread Ken Riznyk


--- Phil Van Camp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 The French or whomever are quite welcome to have
 Kerry as their president.
 The fact they may prefer him is a good reason not to
 elect him in the U.S.
 Certainly Kerry leans (if that is strong enough) far
 to the left.
 The most obvious reasons are that systems of
 governance are radically
 different.
 In most of those countries (if not all), the people
 are the *subjects* of a
 central government
 In the U.S., the government is supposed to be
 subject to the citizens.
 
 Phil
 .
SUPPOSED TO BE are the operative words here.
Ken



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RE: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Re: [Off Topic]US to sell 5000 smart bombs toIsrael

2004-10-18 Thread Ken Riznyk

1. Israeli forces never killed any women or children?
2. Saddam Hussein gave $25,000 to all Palestinians who
were martered not just the suicide bombers.
3. I don't see any reduction in suicide bombs, but if
there were it's probably because they all got AK-47's
and went to Iraq to fight the infidel.
Ken
--- Phil Van Camp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 As long as the Palestinians only kill Israeli
 children  grandmothers, let's
 sell them the bombs.  If the PLO murders any
 Americans, I'd vote to *give*
 the bombs to the IAF.
 Pay attention to the news.  Israeli forces kill
 military leaders.  Then the
 PLO gets mad  bombs another bus load of children 
 civilians.  I guess some
 people think that is fair.
 BTW,  anyone notice the reduction of murder bombings
 since Saddam H. has
 stopped paying bounties to the bombers?
 Suicide had nothing to do with it. These were / are
 murders for hire.
 
 Phil
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Re: [Biofuel] Re: [Off Topic]US to sell 5000 smart bombs to Israel

2004-10-18 Thread Ken Riznyk


--- Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The US is no friend to anybody, when carefully
 looked at. They have NEVER
 ever done anything sacrificially in it's entire
 existance. 

You never heard of World War I or World War II 
Ken



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Re: [Biofuel] US to sell 5000 smart bombs to Israel

2004-10-18 Thread Frantz DESPREZ



Where do you get this stuff ? Britain certainly DID give away 
Palestine so the Zionists could set up their own state. Read the 
Balfour Declaration, as that is what that is all about.
The UN, rather after the fact, ascended to an already-in-effect 
possesion of this land by the Zionists, and so, in May 1948 the 
political state of Israel was officially open for business. (...)


... and remember the Haganah (the zionist secret army) used terrorism 
(bombs against official buildings and h™tels, assassinations) to fight 
the British power in Palestine (by mandatory of the Societe des nations 
since the Versailles traite) who was trying to stop the jews illegal 
immigration already before WW2.
Of course, this is not a justification for use of terrorism by 
palestinians. But forget these facts is nowadays one more proof of the 
cynism of Sharon's friends.


FD
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RE: [Biofuel] Israel warned it may become pariah

2004-10-18 Thread fox mulder




Israel warned it may become pariah

15 October 2004

The UN says Israel's actions have led to rising
Palestinian hunger

An Israeli government report has warned that the
country could face 
sanctions and become a pariah state if its conflict
with the 
Palestinians is 
not resolved.


In a confidential 10-year forecast, foreign ministry
analysts warned 
that 
Israel could end up on a collision course with the
European Union and 
become 
increasingly isolated in the world over its policy
towards 
Palestinians.

The report said if the 25-nation block could set aside
internal 
differences 
and forge a unified foreign policy, it could cut into
the clout wielded 
by 
the United States - Israel's chief ally - and harm
Israeli interests.

The report pointed out that a strengthened European
body was expected 
to 
demand Israel reach a settlement with the Palestinians
or face damaging 
economic sanctions.

This could put Israel on a collision course with the
European Union, 
it 
said. Such a collision course holds the risk of
Israel losing 
international 
legitimacy and could lead to its isolation in the
manner of South 
Africa.


Strained relations

Israel's relations with the EU have long been strained
over what it 
says is 
favouritism towards the Palestinians. It has
deteriorated further in 
the 
face of European criticism of Israel's crackdown in
occupied 
Palestinian 
towns.

Israel prefers to deal almost exclusively with
Washington on Middle 
East 
diplomacy. But Palestinians have always insisted on a
European role, 
seeing 
them as more sympathetic to their cause than
Washington.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon threatened in July
to freeze the EU 
out 
of peacemaking after EU states backed a UN General
Assembly resolution 
demanding that Israel tear down a barrier it is
building largely inside 
the 
occupied West Bank.

Palestinians have condemned the barrier as a racist
apartheid wall.

Christina Gallach, spokeswoman for EU foreign policy
chief Javier 
Solana, 
acknowledged big disagreements with Israel on
peacekeeping but said 
Europe 
had the right to play a major role.

Israel wants to limit EU ties to trade and
technology, she said. But 
we 
must have a part in the Middle East peace process.

In Geneva, a UN human rights investigator said on
Thursday the EU 
should 
consider suspending a free trade deal with Israel
because of its 
policies in 
the occupied territories.

Jean Ziegler, who investigates the right to food, said
Israeli military 
action is directly responsible for rising hunger and
health problems 
among 
Palestinians.





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Re: [Biofuel]Beaten Afgan bride

2004-10-18 Thread Frantz DESPREZ



It is quite possible the story is true. 500 years ago the story 
could have been true in continental Europe or England. Our 
enlightenment is quite recent actually and even now is incomplete. Our 
willingness to hurt each other transcends reason.

(...)


Short story :
A journalist went in Afghanistan when the talibans ruled the country. 
She was shocked to see the women respectuously walking 10 meters behind 
theirs husbands or brothers along the road.
She flied back last year and has been  glad to see that  things have 
changed, and now the women were walking 10 meters ahead. The males were  
following this time.
Very excited, the journalist interviewed one of the women and asked her 
whith emphasis what's made this change possible.

the talibans mined the road before leaving  answered the woman.

possible this story is true ?
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RE: [Biofuel] Kerry left leaning Polls

2004-10-18 Thread btmd


 --- Phil Van Camp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The French or whomever are quite welcome to have
 Kerry as their president.
 The fact they may prefer him is a good reason not to
 elect him in the U.S.

How about the fact that the Islamic extremists prefer to keep Bush?  What
does that tell you?  One of al Sadr's top aides was talking last week
about the weapons buy-back program.  When asked why they were giving up
their weapons now, the reply was, Muqtada hates Kerry!  NPR reported it,
but somehow it was missed by Fox News.

So, again, if the French prefering Kerry is a reason to vote for Bush, who
gets the vote when the terrorists openly say they want to keep Bush? 
Nader?

Brian

 Certainly Kerry leans (if that is strong enough) far
 to the left.
 The most obvious reasons are that systems of
 governance are radically
 different.
 In most of those countries (if not all), the people
 are the *subjects* of a
 central government
 In the U.S., the government is supposed to be
 subject to the citizens.

 Phil
 .
 SUPPOSED TO BE are the operative words here.
 Ken



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Re: [Biofuel] Israel warned it may become pariah

2004-10-18 Thread Legal Eagle


already.The only place that Israel is not an outcast is in the US Congress 
who are bought and paid for.
There won't be any sanctions against Israel at the UN level because the US 
is there to assume the role of protector and beneficiary assuring the rest 
of us that Israel will have a free reign of things, to slaughter at will.
It seems the EU isn't looking at it that way though, and are considering 
action OUTSIDE the UN, but then we all know what anti-semites that old 
Europe is anyway.
With Bush signing the global anti-semitism act that aill rate nations 
according to how they treat the Zionists, oh, I mean jews, we are not 
about to see any honesty coming out of either nation for the foreseeable 
future.
The ADL has already been found to create fake anti-semitic attacks to 
bolster it's propaganda position and more and more of these are being 
exposed as hoaxes, so what happens ? The US creates a perfect vehicle by 
which the hoaxes can continue and proliferate and now will rate other 
countries on whether or not they buy it. But, of course, this is not 
covert coersion of the billing, Ha!
The economy of the US is in such tatters right now that it cannot recover 
and all those who continue to support the US's foreign debt load will be 
dragged down with it. It is not only due to specualtions on the oil market 
that prices are reaching above the $US55/barrel mark, it is also a direct 
result of the dollar's foundering. OPEC wants a more realistic income for 
it's product and does not want to be the ones to pick up the wanning dollar, 
so the price of crude is agjusted to reflect a more Euro friendly revenue. 
Saddam was the first to go entirely to the Euro for oil exports, dumping the 
buck completely, so if Saudi and the others do the same all those trillions 
being held in foreign reserves will come home to roost and it will be 
difficult to get a loaf of bread for a wheel barrow full of useless fiat 
dollars. In steps the oil grab and a hopeful stability to the green back. Or 
so the plan was supposed to go, but the Zionist cabal running the White 
House don't give a penny for the state of the US economy, they want control 
over that oil, which, as a by-product, would actually make it somewhat more 
of an independant state instead of the bludgers they now are, to the tune of 
4 billion dollars per year coming straight out of the US economy, but it is 
not only the US citizen that ends up paying the bill. As the International 
monetary standard, the US dollar's position is being abused so that this 
debt is expected to be picked up by foreign investors (other nations) but 
these investors are never going to get a return on their investment and 
they now know it, so i t will fall on the backs of the US citizens top pay 
up for an illegal war built on lies and fabrications, in the end.
Even denominations in the US (under screams ofanti-semitism)are 
beginning to outcast Israel by divesting in it until they redress the 
Palestinian's right to autonomy as outlined in the Balfour Declaration, that 
great document that Briatin drew up partitioning a country that did not 
belong to it. The security fence (apartheid wall) cuts deeo into 
palestinian agricultural lands, WAY outside the boundaries set by the Green 
Line, oulined in Balfour, but it is not a land grab, ha! When the political 
state of Israel bulldozes olive groves and homes it isn' t in an attempt to 
deprive the Palestininas of a means to life, it is for their security, and 
the US is right there with veto in hand should anyone complain about it. But 
they hate you for your freedoms, Ha!
Israel has set itself apart in the way it has refused to be inspected by the 
nuclear body internationally recognised for that purpose. Israel has set 
itself aprt by having it's puppet, the US, veto every attempt to bring order 
out of the chaos they have created in their genocide of the Palestinians. 
Israel's disregard for others and it's wanton flouting of international law 
has set it apart from the world community, so where it is going or might 
be a pariah (outcast) is a mystery. The rest of the world is only now 
finally waking out of it's canatonic state to the reeality that Israel's 
policies are criminal and they want little to nothing to do with it, but due 
to the US's position as chief bully, they have to tread softly or risk being 
the future home of Mr's Tomahawk and Cruise. The world does not love the US 
they fear it, and with good cause.


Luc

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15 October 2004

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Re: [Biofuel] Kerry left leaning Polls

2004-10-18 Thread Frantz DESPREZ




(...)


So, again, if the French prefering Kerry is a reason to vote for Bush, who
gets the vote when the terrorists openly say they want to keep Bush? 
Nader?


Brian
 



I'm french and I prefer...
...Nader
:-)
FD

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RE: [Biofuel] Israel warned it may become pariah

2004-10-18 Thread Hakan Falk


It is large risks that Israel finally have to answer for its war crimes and 
it is over due. According to international law, they are the sole 
responsible for the well being of the Palestinian people in territories 
that they occupy. Also according to international law, the uprising in 
occupied territories against an occupier is not terrorism, it is clearly 
identified as resistance against occupying force. If any terrorize anyone 
in the Israel - Palestine conflict, it is Israel as occupier.


According to international law, Israel is responsible for the Palestinians 
and have to create an environment where the human rights are maintained. 
They have to provide for a secure environment and peoples right to live a 
sustainable life with secure environment, food, education, etc.. Any 
failure to do so is a war crime, they do not have the option to blame 
difficulties with resistance etc., they must provide enough resources to 
fulfill their obligations. They are not allowed to maintain refugee camps, 
since it is no refugees any longer. The refugee camps that was created by a 
war and conflict situation, are no longer refugee by definition, but have 
been transferred by the Israeli to ghettos. According to international law, 
the right to return to origin, have been grossly violated by Israel. All of 
this have been only been possible because of the US support and is one of 
the reason that US is seen as an aggressor and enemy to the middle east 
region. It does not make it much better, with the attempts of US to repeat 
the Israeli behavior in Iraq.


The sad thing is that what for many is regarded as a corner stone for 
humanity, the treaty of Rome, is totally disregarded by Israel and US. The 
same countries that in many cases find support of the laws for events in 
other parts of the world. It is high time that UN defend the pillars of 
right and wrong for the coexistence between countries in the world. I 
welcome any move in this direction and also that EU seems to take a more 
coherent stance in those questions. Personally I am losing more and more of 
my original patience and sympathy for Israel's situation. Today I feel 
almost aggressive towards Israel, because I feel that they have deceived 
and used me in the past and I can no longer lend my support for this. To 
support what happens in Israel and Iraq, would compromise my own integrity 
and views on humanity.


I have a larger understanding for the US annexation of Iraq, because it is 
actions by a desperate energy addict and can be comparable to 
dangerous/criminal behavior of ordinary drug addicts. The cure for US is to 
attack the enormous energy waste, instead of countries with substantial 
petroleum reserves. Ancient colonial behavior, does not have a good track 
record in modern times and I doubt the possibilities of US success, it is 
more likely that it will backfire and worsen the US energy situation on 
both short and long term. We can now see the willingness by oil/NG 
producers to sign deliveries/development to China and EU, instead of US. 
This can be seen as protective measures, since any attempt by US to meddle 
with those supplies, would directly pitch US against other major players in 
the world. The oil producers in the world can no longer trust US and will 
not give them any preference.


Hakan


At 11:08 AM 10/18/2004, you wrote:




Israel warned it may become pariah

15 October 2004

The UN says Israel's actions have led to rising
Palestinian hunger

An Israeli government report has warned that the
country could face
sanctions and become a pariah state if its conflict
with the
Palestinians is
not resolved.


In a confidential 10-year forecast, foreign ministry
analysts warned
that
Israel could end up on a collision course with the
European Union and
become
increasingly isolated in the world over its policy
towards
Palestinians.

The report said if the 25-nation block could set aside
internal
differences
and forge a unified foreign policy, it could cut into
the clout wielded
by
the United States - Israel's chief ally - and harm
Israeli interests.

The report pointed out that a strengthened European
body was expected
to
demand Israel reach a settlement with the Palestinians
or face damaging
economic sanctions.

This could put Israel on a collision course with the
European Union,
it
said. Such a collision course holds the risk of
Israel losing
international
legitimacy and could lead to its isolation in the
manner of South
Africa.


Strained relations

Israel's relations with the EU have long been strained
over what it
says is
favouritism towards the Palestinians. It has
deteriorated further in
the
face of European criticism of Israel's crackdown in
occupied
Palestinian
towns.

Israel prefers to deal almost exclusively with
Washington on Middle
East
diplomacy. But Palestinians have always insisted on a
European role,
seeing
them as more sympathetic to their cause than
Washington.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon 

Re: [Biofuel] Kerry left leaning Polls

2004-10-18 Thread btmd

To be honest, I prefer the option of None of the above are suitable,
please go back and try again.  Since we're not given that option, I will
vote for the one who is not evil but has a chance to win.  At least this
time, it's not a lesser of the two evils question.  It's one evil and the
other not great but at least won't destroy the country.

Brian

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 (...)


So, again, if the French prefering Kerry is a reason to vote for Bush,
 who
gets the vote when the terrorists openly say they want to keep Bush?
Nader?

Brian



 I'm french and I prefer...
 ...Nader
 :-)
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Re: [Biofuel]Beaten Afgan bride

2004-10-18 Thread Walt Patrick


Short story :
A journalist went in Afghanistan when the talibans ruled the country.
She was shocked to see the women respectuously walking 10 meters behind
theirs husbands or brothers along the road.
She flied back last year and has been  glad to see that  things have
changed, and now the women were walking 10 meters ahead. The males were
following this time.
Very excited, the journalist interviewed one of the women and asked her
whith emphasis what's made this change possible.
the talibans mined the road before leaving  answered the woman.

possible this story is true ?

Was it true when they told the same story about Korean women fifty 
years ago?

Walt
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RE: [Biofuel] Running B100

2004-10-18 Thread Mel Riser

I have been running B20 to B100 over the last 6 weeks.

Mostly B50 and this is what I have noticed. My old truck smokes more on 
startup. Has a slight smoke at idle, but not oil smoke.

Doesnt smell nearly as bad.

However it is OBVIOUS the BXX is loosening up stuff on the inside and 
cleaning the engine out.

It did have a regular drip drip leak that seems to be getting less. I think the 
rear seal of the motor is rubber and the BXX maybe causing it to swell? And 
leak less?

Going to be interesting once the SVO kit is installed.

mel

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[Biofuel] Running B100

2004-10-18 Thread Legal Eagle

It appears that not only is the screen filter in the tank severely gummed up 
but that the lines themselves are brittle and in need of changing.
After this latest upgrade I do believe that my Benz will be BD adjusted and I 
can get on with more important things, like getting ready for another season of 
increased BD production.
I learned on the weekend that I may have a clientele building without my even 
looking for one, so the expansion I was planning is a good thing. 
That's the beauty of a good BD set-up, it can be easily expanded to increase 
productivity without having to re-build a whole new reactor/wash tank system :)

Luc
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Re: [Biofuel] Running B100

2004-10-18 Thread Fritz

Hi Luc,
my name is Fritz,i am Quebecois  and would appreciate a privat mail from you
at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
merci
Fritz from Lac du Cerf
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It appears that not only is the screen filter in the tank severely gummed up
but that the lines themselves are brittle and in need of changing.
After this latest upgrade I do believe that my Benz will be BD adjusted and
I can get on with more important things, like getting ready for another
season of increased BD production.
I learned on the weekend that I may have a clientele building without my
even looking for one, so the expansion I was planning is a good thing.
That's the beauty of a good BD set-up, it can be easily expanded to increase
productivity without having to re-build a whole new reactor/wash tank system
:)

Luc
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[Biofuel] U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year

2004-10-18 Thread Keith Addison


ABC News:
U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year

U.N. Calls Indoor Pollution Silent and Unreported Killer; Smoke 
Claims 1.6 Million Lives a Year


GENEVA Oct. 15, 2004
- About 1.6 million people are killed each year by indoor smoke from 
cooking fires in developing countries, U.N. agencies said Friday.


That's one life lost every 20 seconds to the 'killer in the 
kitchen,' said a statement by the World Health Organization and the 
United Nations Development Program.


While the millions of deaths from well-known communicable diseases 
often make headlines, indoor air pollution remains a silent and 
unreported killer. Rural women and children are the most at risk.


The agencies said nearly half of the world continues to cook with 
dung, wood, coal and other solid fuels in fireplaces and stoves that 
lack chimneys or vents to safely remove the smoke from the house.



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Smoke from burning these fuels gives off a poisonous cocktail of 
particles and chemicals, they said.


People that aren't killed directly by the fumes can succumb to 
respiratory illnesses such as bronchitis and pneumonia brought on by 
the smoke.


The agencies said a typical wood-fired cooking stove creates carbon 
monoxide and other noxious fumes at anywhere between seven and 500 
times over the allowable limits.


Day in day out, and for hours at a time, rural women and their 
children in particular are subjected to levels of smoke in their 
homes that far exceed international safety standards, the statement 
said.


Hope for improvement comes from a growing network of experts and 
organizations that is finding innovative and affordable solutions 
using cleaner stoves, fuels and smoke hoods, the agencies said.


But this is just the beginning, they said. We need the same 
attention paid to this killer in the kitchen as is paid to other 
major killers.


Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This 
material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.




http://www.healthcentral.com/news/NewsFullText.cfm?id=1505050
Health News

UN: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6 Million Annually

About 1.6 million people worldwide die each year from the effects of 
indoor pollution, two United Nations agencies reported Friday.


While the millions of deaths from well-known communicable diseases 
often make headlines, indoor air pollution remains a silent and 
unreported killer, according to a statement from the World Health 
Organization and the U.N. Development Program.


The agencies said people in nearly half of the world continue to cook 
with wood, coal and other solid fuels in conditions that lack proper 
ventilation, according to an Associated Press account of the report. 
The resulting smoke and fumes contain a toxic cocktail of particles 
and chemicals, the report said. And people who don't die from the 
direct effects of the smoke often die from respiratory disease, the 
agencies added.


A typical wood-fired cooking stove creates noxious fumes and smoke 
that are up to 500 times greater than international safety standards 
permit, the report said.


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[Biofuel] High mileage, low emissions - and no big-rig noise

2004-10-18 Thread Keith Addison


| csmonitor.com
Work  Money
from the October 18, 2004 edition

High mileage, low emissions - and no big-rig noise

By Eric C. Evarts | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor

The last time America got excited about diesels, gasoline cost more 
than it does today in real terms and Ronald Reagan was president. But 
diesels have come a long way. Five new models are hitting the market 
this year.


Take Volkswagen, which has sold diesels in the US - and improved upon 
them - since 1987. Driving one of its long-running Golf, Jetta, or 
New Beetle models, it's hard to tell the difference from a 
gasoline-powered car. The diesel engine grumbles a bit while idling 
and the back of the car smells a little until the engine warms. It 
also reaches high speeds without having to rev as fast. But other 
than that, you'd never know it was a diesel until you fill it up - 
and these cars register more than 40 miles per gallon.


Many reviewers - and apparently buyers, too - prefer these 
fuel-efficient engines to their respective gasoline models. That's 
certainly true with the VW Touareg, which offers a powerful V10 
diesel engine with twin turbochargers. The engine generates 310 
horsepower and enough torque to tow a 7,700-pound boat. Under normal 
driving conditions, it gets 17 m.p.g. in the city and 23 m.p.g. on 
the highway. The Touareg's gasoline V8 has slightly more horsepower 
but only gets 13 m.p.g. in the city and 18 on the highway.


The 500 Touareg diesels VW will sell this year also cost $15,000 more 
than the gas V8 models. The company's new Passat diesel, however, 
costs only $300 more than its gasoline counterpart and an automatic 
transmission comes standard. The Passat uses a slightly larger 
134-horsepower version of the four-cylinder turbo-diesel in the 
Jetta, Golf, and New Beetle. Performance VW Magazine recently picked 
the diesel as its favorite among four Passat engines.


Of the other new diesels this year - the Mercedes-Benz E320 CDI, the 
Jeep Liberty CRD, and the redesigned Kia Sportage - the best is the 
Mercedes. It drives much like most diesels with two exceptions. Once 
up to speed, the E320 CDI is quiet as can be and really zips once the 
throttle is held open a couple seconds. It also feels far faster than 
the E320s gasoline V6.


Other automakers plan to introduce new diesels after 2006. That's 
when low-sulfur fuel is expected to become available, allowing the 
new diesels to meet the next round of tighter pollution standards. 
Ford executives recently called diesels the answer to higher oil 
prices, higher fuel-mileage requirements, and low greenhouse-gas 
emissions.


Perhaps the best evidence for America's increasing interest in 
diesels is that premium buyers are willing to pay for them. Diesels 
generally cost about $1,000 more to build than comparable gasoline 
engines. But thousands of buyers are shelling out an extra $2,520 for 
the diesel VW Jetta (after cash incentives on the gasoline version), 
which gives them 25 percent better fuel economy, lower greenhouse gas 
emissions, and the ability to burn a wide variety of fuels if Middle 
East oil becomes too expensive.

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Re: [Biofuel] U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year

2004-10-18 Thread Party of Citizens

  Dust and dust mites, mold etc. also kill thousands at least.

  Z



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  Subject: [Biofuel] U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year


   http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=168171
   ABC News:
   U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year
  
   U.N. Calls Indoor Pollution Silent and Unreported Killer; Smoke
   Claims 1.6 Million Lives a Year
  
   GENEVA Oct. 15, 2004
   - About 1.6 million people are killed each year by indoor smoke from
   cooking fires in developing countries, U.N. agencies said Friday.
  
   That's one life lost every 20 seconds to the 'killer in the
   kitchen,' said a statement by the World Health Organization and the
   United Nations Development Program.
  
   While the millions of deaths from well-known communicable diseases
   often make headlines, indoor air pollution remains a silent and
   unreported killer. Rural women and children are the most at risk.
  
   The agencies said nearly half of the world continues to cook with
   dung, wood, coal and other solid fuels in fireplaces and stoves that
   lack chimneys or vents to safely remove the smoke from the house.
  
  
   * Negotiator: Fallujah Talks Still Suspended
   * Cops: Burglary Suspect Strangles Himself
   * Secrets of the Saudi Royal Family
  
   Smoke from burning these fuels gives off a poisonous cocktail of
   particles and chemicals, they said.
  
   People that aren't killed directly by the fumes can succumb to
   respiratory illnesses such as bronchitis and pneumonia brought on by
   the smoke.
  
   The agencies said a typical wood-fired cooking stove creates carbon
   monoxide and other noxious fumes at anywhere between seven and 500
   times over the allowable limits.
  
   Day in day out, and for hours at a time, rural women and their
   children in particular are subjected to levels of smoke in their
   homes that far exceed international safety standards, the statement
   said.
  
   Hope for improvement comes from a growing network of experts and
   organizations that is finding innovative and affordable solutions
   using cleaner stoves, fuels and smoke hoods, the agencies said.
  
   But this is just the beginning, they said. We need the same
   attention paid to this killer in the kitchen as is paid to other
   major killers.
  
   Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This
   material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
  
   
  
   http://www.healthcentral.com/news/NewsFullText.cfm?id=1505050
   Health News
  
   UN: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6 Million Annually
  
   About 1.6 million people worldwide die each year from the effects of
   indoor pollution, two United Nations agencies reported Friday.
  
   While the millions of deaths from well-known communicable diseases
   often make headlines, indoor air pollution remains a silent and
   unreported killer, according to a statement from the World Health
   Organization and the U.N. Development Program.
  
   The agencies said people in nearly half of the world continue to cook
   with wood, coal and other solid fuels in conditions that lack proper
   ventilation, according to an Associated Press account of the report.
   The resulting smoke and fumes contain a toxic cocktail of particles
   and chemicals, the report said. And people who don't die from the
   direct effects of the smoke often die from respiratory disease, the
   agencies added.
  
   A typical wood-fired cooking stove creates noxious fumes and smoke
   that are up to 500 times greater than international safety standards
   permit, the report said.
  
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Re: [Biofuel] U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year

2004-10-18 Thread Keith Addison




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See:
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Wood fires that fit - Appropriate technology: Journey to Forever

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 - Original Message -
 From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:08 PM
 Subject: [Biofuel] U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year


  http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=168171
  ABC News:
  U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year
 
  U.N. Calls Indoor Pollution Silent and Unreported Killer; Smoke
  Claims 1.6 Million Lives a Year
 
  GENEVA Oct. 15, 2004
  - About 1.6 million people are killed each year by indoor smoke from
  cooking fires in developing countries, U.N. agencies said Friday.
 
  That's one life lost every 20 seconds to the 'killer in the
  kitchen,' said a statement by the World Health Organization and the
  United Nations Development Program.
 
  While the millions of deaths from well-known communicable diseases
  often make headlines, indoor air pollution remains a silent and
  unreported killer. Rural women and children are the most at risk.
 
  The agencies said nearly half of the world continues to cook with
  dung, wood, coal and other solid fuels in fireplaces and stoves that
  lack chimneys or vents to safely remove the smoke from the house.
 
 
  * Negotiator: Fallujah Talks Still Suspended
  * Cops: Burglary Suspect Strangles Himself
  * Secrets of the Saudi Royal Family
 
  Smoke from burning these fuels gives off a poisonous cocktail of
  particles and chemicals, they said.
 
  People that aren't killed directly by the fumes can succumb to
  respiratory illnesses such as bronchitis and pneumonia brought on by
  the smoke.
 
  The agencies said a typical wood-fired cooking stove creates carbon
  monoxide and other noxious fumes at anywhere between seven and 500
  times over the allowable limits.
 
  Day in day out, and for hours at a time, rural women and their
  children in particular are subjected to levels of smoke in their
  homes that far exceed international safety standards, the statement
  said.
 
  Hope for improvement comes from a growing network of experts and
  organizations that is finding innovative and affordable solutions
  using cleaner stoves, fuels and smoke hoods, the agencies said.
 
  But this is just the beginning, they said. We need the same
  attention paid to this killer in the kitchen as is paid to other
  major killers.
 
  Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This
  material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
 
  
 
  http://www.healthcentral.com/news/NewsFullText.cfm?id=1505050
  Health News
 
  UN: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6 Million Annually
 
  About 1.6 million people worldwide die each year from the effects of
  indoor pollution, two United Nations agencies reported Friday.
 
  While the millions of deaths from well-known communicable diseases
  often make headlines, indoor air pollution remains a silent and
  unreported killer, according to a statement from the World Health
  Organization and the U.N. Development Program.
 
  The agencies said people in nearly half of the world continue to cook
  with wood, coal and other solid fuels in conditions that lack proper
  ventilation, according to an Associated Press account of the report.
  The resulting smoke and fumes contain a toxic cocktail of particles
  and chemicals, the report said. And people who don't die from the
  direct effects of the smoke often die from respiratory disease, the
  agencies added.
 
  A typical wood-fired cooking stove creates noxious fumes and smoke
  that are up to 500 times greater than international safety standards
  permit, the report said.
 
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[Biofuel] Fwd: [Stoves] A.D. Karve's methane digestion device

2004-10-18 Thread Keith Addison



From: adkarve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Stoves] A.D. Karve's methane digestion device

Dear Stovers,
I was flooded with requests from members for details of the compact biogas
digester. Peter Springfield presented a nice collection of my own postings.
They contain several contradictions and discrepancies. The digester is still
in the prototype stage and we are still working on it. It is thus going
through a process of evolution and it may take some time before we come out
with the ultimate optimal design. The present status is that a family needs
about 500 litres of methane (roughly 130 g by weight) for cooking a meal.
Therefore, the gas holder has to have the capacity to hold about 500 litres
of gas. In a model, having two cylinders telescoping into one another, this
automatically determines the volume of the digester (lower barrel), which
too must have a volume of about 500 litres. We have several firms selling
plastic water tanks. By searching in the market, one can find two 500 litre
tanks having slightly different diameters. The tank with the smaller
diameter serves as the gas holder and the one with the larger diameter
serves as the fermenter. It is advisable to have black tanks and to keep
them exposed to direct sunlight, as the reaction runs faster with higher
temperature. To start the fermenter, one uses about 10 kg cattle dung mixed
with water and fills the fermenter tank. It takes about 8 days before the
gas accumulation starts. The accumulated gas lifts the gas holder. Test the
gas every day for its combustibility. If it is not combustible, just let it
escape. Once you start getting combustible gas, start feeding the fermenter
with the high starch/sugar feedstock. Feed about 1 kg equivalent of sugar or
starch in the morning and again 1kg equivalent in the evening. We have so
far successfully used flour of cereal grains, flour of a whole lot of seeds
collected from various tree species, leftover food, sugarcane juice,
macerated whole sugarcane, oilcakes of edible as well non-edible oilseeds,
pulp of papaya, bananas, mangoes, rotten onions, macerated tubers of potato,
tapioka, sweet potato, taro etc. The conventional biogas plants use
feedstock having high organic carbon content but low calorific value. It is
a universal rule that every output of work requires a corresponding input of
energy. In the conventional biogas plants, the conventional feedstock is low
in physiologically available calories. So naturally the gas output is also
low. The stovers understand calories. When talking with stovers about fuel,
the first question that is asked is about the calorific value of the fuel.
But apparently the biogas workers do not understand calories. They talk of
C/N ratio, organic matter that can be volatilized and many other things,
which make no sense to me.
Now that we are on the way to getting a grant from USEPA, we want to scale
up the manufacture of the present model with the help of a plastic
manufacturer. It is our aspiration that the model, having a gas holder of
500 litre capacity should not cost more than about US$50. The gas stove with
two burners costs US$20. The total expenditure is about the same as the
present price of an LPG system, which includes the deposit for the LPG
cylinder. Anybody who has already installed a conventional biogas system in
his house, has only to switch from dung to the new feedstock. Many people
have already done it.
Yours
A.D.Karve
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From: Peter Singfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 12:24 AM
Subject: [Stoves] Reviewing A.D. Karve's methane digestion device



 ***
 If we can get A. D. to enter into discussion -- some questions need be
asked.

 1: Will fresh cane juice be a good food for your digester?

 **

 Further investigations of my extensive archives on hard drive have derived
 A.D.'s answer to this question -- above -- addressed to me personally on
 this same mail list -- and some time back!

 So embarrassing to age and lose my mental capacities --

 Here is that answer:

 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 19:27:25 +0530
 From: A.D. Karve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [STOVES] compact biogas plant
 To: Peter Singfield [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Accept-Language: en-us

 Dear Peter,

 Our biogas plant accepts both sugarcane juice as also macerated whole
 sugarcane.

 In the case of the latter, the advantage is that the cellulose in the cane
 is also converted into gas, albeit after a retention period of about 20
 days.

 The maceration is done with the help of a machine called the chaff cutter,
 which is used for chopping stems of sorghum or maize into small pieces.
One
  can set the machine to give different sizes of the chopped up material.

 We use the setting for the smallest pieces.  Under Indian conditions,
where
 we get rains only during the four months of monsoon, sugarcane needs
 irrigation.