Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-19 Thread D. Mindock
Bob, Joe, I avoid both butter and margarine by using coconut creme, ghee, etc. Organic, if possible. Joe, you can take an extra multi-mineral capsule to offset the leaching from the RO water. I use carbon-block filter followed by distillation; I take extra minerals. The thing is that if

Re: [Biofuel] socialism, taxes, economics, comments please.

2006-09-19 Thread Chip Mefford
Joe Street wrote: u well, 1 hr at $12.50/hr times 5 days a week times 48 weeks comes to $3000.00 unless my calulator is busted...it is a microsoft thingie after all. Assuming he dehydrates over the weekend and Christmas of course. Joe Ahh sheesh. Here, I tried to build a Very Simple

Re: [Biofuel] socialism, taxes, economics, comments please.

2006-09-19 Thread Chip Mefford
Hey Mike, thanks for playing. Mike Weaver wrote: Q1. What is an hours labour worth in this community? 1 hour of a person's time. You're confusing the community obligations with work worth Hardly. Hauling water isn't a community obligation, it's a personal obligation. Keep the model

[Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-19 Thread D. Mindock
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/alert/?alertid=9027371content_dir=ua_congressorg WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 As we celebrate the 5th anniversary of Sept 11, more questions about what really happened that fateful day are surfacing.

[Biofuel] Ranchers Decry Grass-Fed Beef Rule Plan

2006-09-19 Thread D. Mindock
More hanky panky from a govagency that protects Big Ag instead of "we the people" and the small ranches and farms. Peace, D. Mindock = http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/09/03/financial/f124409D52.DTLhw=dietsn=003sc=737 Ranchers

Re: [Biofuel] socialism, taxes, economics, comments please.

2006-09-19 Thread Randall
Here, I tried to build a Very Simple Model. Key point, Very Simple. There are 24 hours in a day, everyone earns on a factor of 24, the unit under debate is one hour. Paid by whom? They are paid even for sleeping? - Original Message - From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[Biofuel] What do I do now?

2006-09-19 Thread Bobby Clark
I've finally managed to get a diesel vehicle, although it is an older one. It is a 1983 Chevy C10 Scottsdale diesel. I would like to use biodiesel in it since I know how and hae used it (biodiesel) in other applications but my understanding is that I have to make some modifications (i.e.

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-19 Thread Joe Street
bob allen wrote: snip most medicines are herbs, or modeled after them and are purer and more predictable, with known side effects, at least after time to accumulate statistically relevant data. The problems with herbs as I see it is two fold- frequently there is a lack of proven

Re: [Biofuel] What do I do now?

2006-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
The biggest (or first) problems tend to be the injector return lines, possibly because they are exposed to hot biodiesel, not just biodiesel. If you can, replace these as a preventative. I don't know if this engine has rubber or steel return lines -- my mitsubishi has steel which prevents this

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-19 Thread Andrew Lowe
D. Mindock wrote: http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/alert/?alertid=9027371content_dir=ua_congressorg WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 As we celebrate the 5th anniversary of Sept 11, more questions about what really happened that fateful day are surfacing. A businessman friend of

Re: [Biofuel] I Don't Know (was amazing himalayan salt)

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Kelly
Mike and Joe, I don't know either. It seems that we do what we do and then what we do becomes part of the fabric of what we are. Gustlrecently stated: "It is the content of the heart which counts the most I think but we don't have any formal tests for that but the heart is evidenced

Re: [Biofuel] I Don't Know (was amazing himalayan salt)

2006-09-19 Thread MK DuPree
Tom...:)Thank you! One good smile deserves another.:)) Smile on, brother man, and fork that horseshit!!! LOLwonderful post, but then, "I don't know." :) Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [Biofuel] socialism, taxes, economics, comments please.

2006-09-19 Thread DHAJOGLO
On Monday, September 18, 2006 1:16 PM, Chip Mefford wrote: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:16:21 -0400 From: Chip Mefford To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] socialism, taxes, economics, comments please. Spent a lot of hours behind the wheel these last few weeks. Driving from the

Re: [Biofuel] socialism, taxes, economics, comments please.

2006-09-19 Thread Joe Street
Chip; Ok big deal. I didn't mean to be anal about the numbers, and now I realize the accuracy of the numbers is not really important to the discussion. The relative proportions of the earnings are still the same and the big questions are still unanswered and I think it will be impossible to

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-19 Thread robert and benita rabello
Andrew Lowe wrote: WHAT UTTER CRAP. One of the main causes of failure was that the steel that comprised the floor trusses elongated due to heating. It didn't melt, the heat caused its tensile strength to reduce until the floor trusses failed causing lateral forces on the core which

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-19 Thread bob allen
Joe Street wrote: bob allen wrote: snip most medicines are herbs, or modeled after them and are purer and more predictable, with known side effects, at least after time to accumulate statistically relevant data. The problems with herbs as I see it is two fold- frequently there is

Re: [Biofuel] socialism, taxes, economics, comments please.

2006-09-19 Thread Chip Mefford
Joe Street wrote: Chip; Ok big deal. I didn't mean to be anal about the numbers, and now I realize the accuracy of the numbers is not really important to the discussion. BIG SNIP . I don't think you will solve it by reorganizing the money. Joe Excellent! Now *THATS* what I call a

Re: [Biofuel] socialism, taxes, economics, comments please.

2006-09-19 Thread Randall
Do all households use the same amount of water? If not, what limits are placed on how much water a household can use in a day? - Original Message - From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel]

Re: [Biofuel] socialism, taxes, economics, comments please.

2006-09-19 Thread Chip Mefford
DHAJOGLO wrote: On Monday, September 18, 2006 1:16 PM, Chip Mefford wrote: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:16:21 -0400 From: Chip Mefford To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] socialism, taxes, economics, comments please. Spent a lot of hours behind the wheel these last few weeks.

[Biofuel] Researchers uncover a secret of Black Death

2006-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.physorg.com/printnews.php?newsid=77811326 9/18/2006 11:45 PM Researchers Uncover a Secret of the Black Death Yersinia pestis, the bacteria that causes plague, is a sneaky little intruder with a remarkable ability to evade the body’s immune system. Upon entering an organism, Y.

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-19 Thread Joe Street
Hi Bob; Well I don't mean to argue this too much but what bugs me is that although I don't have a problem with a scientist or a chemist making a living, it disturbs me that our society is geared towards and so dominated by profit. When this becomes the paramount concern then all manner of

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-19 Thread dwoodard
There's nothing wrong with profit, but what the market thinks is profit is not always the whole story. Markets need the help of a disciplined social framework, otherwise they will lie. The discipline can be imposed through suitable taxes. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada On Tue,

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-19 Thread bob allen
Joe Street wrote: Hi Bob; Well I don't mean to argue this too much but what bugs me is that although I don't have a problem with a scientist or a chemist making a living, it disturbs me that our society is geared towards and so dominated by profit. like mercola selling salt at 2 bucks

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-19 Thread dwoodard
People learning science need to be introduced to non-linear and complex systems as a part of their basic education. Come to think of it, so do philosophers, sociologists, political scientists, economists...and journalists...just about everyone who deals with abstractions at all. Doug Woodard

Re: [Biofuel] Science (was: amazing himalayan salt)

2006-09-19 Thread Ken Provost
On Sep 19, 2006, at 2:04 PM, bob allen wrote: it is not science which has become the prostitute, it is individuals which have prostituted themselves and commit fraud- science is just a process, not a thing. After a long life in the sciences and engineering, I've come to believe that

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
I was told the problem with synthetics is isomers. The natural chemical is thecorrect molecule. Synthetichas a 50-50 racemic mix half good and half bogus biologically. The herb is pure. The synthetic is 50% an unnatural molecule.KirkJoe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bob allen wrote:snip

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
To fall straight down means the failures supposedly caused by heat all happened at the same time. In the real world theylean to the failed side and then forces cause more failures. It is a very tricky business making them fall straight down. KirkAndrew Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D. Mindock

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-19 Thread Terry Dyck
Hi Bob, Joe is right; herbs are better than synthetic drugs for the simple reason that you just mentioned, drugs have side effects. Herbs are actually foods. It is only confusing because our modern day society has put herbs into capsules. Originally herbs were only eaten just as we eat

Re: [Biofuel] Science

2006-09-19 Thread robert and benita rabello
Ken Provost wrote: After a long life in the sciences and engineering, I've come to believe that the scientific method has some basic flaws, two of which are as follows (there are others as well) I'm composing this message with advance apologies to Bob Allen . . . : - ) I once

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-19 Thread robert and benita rabello
Kirk McLoren wrote: To fall straight down means the failures supposedly caused by heat all happened at the same time. In the real world they lean to the failed side and then forces cause more failures. It is a very tricky business making them fall straight down. But the dust

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
There was no falling until the first failure. A little logic would go a long way here. And it fell straight down. If it hadnt the rubble pile would have extended in the direction of fall. Not rocket science here. Just basic evidence. BTW Robert - you an engineer? I am - and my daughter is a