Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines workasproventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973

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Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven totheworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973

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[Biofuel] Growdiesel International Summit, New Delhi, India

September 17-19, 2008 Growdiesel International Summit, New Delhi, India Growdiesel Climate Care Council is pleased to invite you to the inaugural International Summit on Algae Biofuels to be held on 17th, 18th & 19th September 2008 at New Delhi, India. The Summit is focused on next generation o

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

>Methanol shouldn't vaporize until 148.46 deg F assuming the atmospheric >pressure in you area is 760mmHg. That's the boiling point of methanol. It starts to evaporate at much lower temperatures than that. Temperature maintenance is one of the reasons we recommend a mini-processor rather than a

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Methanol shouldn't vaporize until 148.46 deg F assuming the atmospheric pressure in you area is 760mmHg. Best, Chris > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Steve Moran > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 4:46 PM > To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@su

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Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

Hi Mike Heat the oil further to about 145 deg F to compensate for cooling. Hopefully the heat will be enough to last the duration of the process. You can also insulate your blender with buble wrap. Best, Chris > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

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Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

I do my test batches in a pot on a coleman stove out in the garage so I can maintain the temp. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:58 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] biodiesel test ba

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

I think (but I'm not sure) that methanol will evaporate at 140, is that correct? If it is, then keeping the temp below that would become very important too. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Thomas Kelly Sent: Mon 4/28/2008 6:39 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

Mike, Test batches can be difficult .. well worth the effort. Blenders provide excellent agitation, but it is difficult to maintain the proper temp. PET bottles allow one to maintain temp better, but agitation may be inadequate. It is important to maintain temp even if

Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973

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to be able to run on BD.We think to look for a > 2tank system.Up here in Canada we have very cold winters > Thanks for your help > Fritz > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >

[Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

Hello everyone, my first post i want to apologize if this has been answered, but I have searched the archives and relevant sites without finding a clear answer. I've been reading the j2f howto for doing my first test batch with unused veg oil and a blender. I see that I'm suppose to pre-heat th

[Biofuel] american Trucks

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Re: [Biofuel] 7 myths of energy independence

Actually, the Prius uses both DC and AC, so it depends which circuit is of concern as to which is appropriate. The battery is definitely a CD device. Cabling runs from the battery to the inverter which drives the electric motor. During charging, the driven alternator produces AC, but this has to

Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven totheworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973

Mike Pelly wrote: >Sorry robert luis rabello but you are the one who is not reading here. Come >back with some serious answers to address my questions so I can take you >seriously. > > Hmm . . . >"I don't have a problem with that. It's the outlandish claim that >vaporized gasoline ca

Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work asproventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973

Mike Pelly wrote: >You don't think cats are hot? Put your finger on one sometime and than let >me know what you think. They have shields all over them for a good reason. > > They HAVE to be hot in order to work. >They are very efficient at re-burning the hydrocarbon rich exhaust but why >a

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Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work asproventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973

> Anyway, a few percent of the gas > (more than 50% from the engine) is going out the exhaust (the catletic > converter cuts this number down further but does nothing as work to push the > car) If I had to guess, I'd guess that even with a very old carbureator design from the 30's, it's still

Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work asproventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Mike Pelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess we don't know Zeke and we never will if you have anything to do with > it. So, now I'm accused of hiding numbers that I don't have. Wow. Or maybe I've got that old Opel in my garage and won't let anyone test it an

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Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Mike Pelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a mpg stunt, it's quite impressive, but as a scientific experiment, it > is unfortuneately not that useful on a quantitative basis for designing more > efficient cars. > Not if you don't want it to be. Do You want it

Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Mike Pelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zeke they still introduce the fuel into the combustion chamber at ambient > temperature and as a liquid like they have since the gasoline powered car > was invented. This is about the only thing that has not changed in ca

Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973

>The > biggest problem in their logic is that if the catalytic converter really was > burning off a large percentage of unburned hydrocarbons in the exhaust, it > would have to be dissipating enormous amounts of heat > -- and though they do run hot, they don't dissipate an equal amount of h

Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven totheworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973

Mike Pelly wrote: > I ask you Robert the same questions I have asked before and the >answer never metalizes just a lot of BS that I don't know what I'm talking >about. >1. Why did Shell Oil get 376 MPGs out of a 1959 Opel back in 1973? Please >explain why, if not on account of lightening u

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Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven totheworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Mike Pelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > quit your pompous pontificating. Can you please send information on the car that you drive, and what you have done to it to improve the efficiency, and what sort of average mpg you are getting from it? Z ___

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Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven totheworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973

Mike Pelly wrote: >Why does a gallon of liquid propane need to be pressurized at 172 PSI to >stay contained in liquid form and gasoline stays liquid at room temperature? > > Those are its physical properties. Asking this question with respect to internal combustion is a bit like asking wh

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Re: [Biofuel] Fuel from Algae??

for industry, > perhaps including GMO strains. Not Appropriate Technology, and not > for backyarders. In other words, not very useful, IMHO. > > Best > > Keith > > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel from Algae??

Kieth, I understand what you are saying, but if the process can be industrialised & use waste CO2 from power plants, it would be worthwhile: even tho it might not scale down. regards Doug On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:12:36 Keith Addison wrote: > Hello James > > >I'm off to investigate a an algae to

[Biofuel] Scam Artists Are Prepped to Fleece Green Industries as Soon as the Money Comes in

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Re: [Biofuel] Fuel from Algae??

Hello James >I'm off to investigate a an algae to oil operation in Phx. I work for a >large SW US util that has produced biod from algae. Well that's a little more detail, but not a lot. Previous: > >> Here are a few links. I've driven an E250 van that ran on biodiesel made > > >from algae oil

Re: [Biofuel] 7 myths of energy independence

Hello Francene >... I'm glad you don't agree with all the >article said. Sorry. I agree that energy independence is a myth. Just that the article says that is worthy of note, regardless of what else it says. I think it's something that's moving into general public awareness, more people will b

[Biofuel] Home Brew for the Car, Not the Beer Cup

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