Re: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage
- Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 17, 2007 5:05 am Subject: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org My Encounter with [Insert Scary Music] ... Socialized Medicine! Gasp! snip I was back at Ann’s in just over an hour from when I left—with my letter, my boot, and my tale of smiling, pleasant, and efficient health care workers. And somehow I began to believe that back in America we weren’t being given the whole truth. And guess what? Ann tells me that David Beckham and Wayne Rooney, the biggest British soccer (football) stars, have had metatarsal bone fractures, just like mine. In about six weeks, I too will be back on the field, thanks to socialized medicine! I've lived under both systems, and there is NO WAY that I would ever desire to return to America's free market medicine. The system in the US works well if you have a lot of money, a category I have never fit into, and therefore did not have a good experience with health care in my own country, but here in Canada, when I have a medical issue I simply go to my family physician. Rush Limbaugh and the other ranting lunatics have it wrong, as usual . . . robert luis rabello ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage
Hi Mike and all, Folks in America can't have everything. There have to be priorities. You can have the most expensive military in the world chasing ghosts or you can have national healthcare. Now in Uruguay I pay some pretty heavy taxes but everyone has healthcare. My prescriptions are U$5.00 each. They cost 10 times that in the states but at least there I can get frisked by airport security and photographed by a multitude of hidden cameras for my taxes. Now that's value. :- Tom Irwin Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage
So stay in Uruguay! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Irwin Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:25 AM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage Hi Mike and all, Folks in America can't have everything. There have to be priorities. You can have the most expensive military in the world chasing ghosts or you can have national healthcare. Now in Uruguay I pay some pretty heavy taxes but everyone has healthcare. My prescriptions are U$5.00 each. They cost 10 times that in the states but at least there I can get frisked by airport security and photographed by a multitude of hidden cameras for my taxes. Now that's value. :- Tom Irwin _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger http://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/2731??PS=47575 Download today it's FREE! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage
Hi Mike, all. Glad your experience was Ok. I'm in the UK a few years ago my dad had a nasty stroke, he waited on an ambulance trolley in AE for 7 hrs for a bed in a ward, he devoted his working life to the NHS as a brilliant ophthalmologist! I do have to say that sometimes our NHS may not be perfect all the time, but we are damn lucky to have it. I've used AE a good few times I'm glad it's there - I can't imagine living with the US system, it seems so elitist. The US spends trillions of $'s warmongering yet it can't provide healthcare for all, a basic human right it purports to promote. No offence to you at all Mike, but I'm glad I'm British ( there are a lot of things British that I'm not proud of) I wouldn't like the way the US behaves in the world on our collective conscience. Best regards Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Weaver Sent: 16 August 2007 15:05 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage My Encounter with [Insert Scary Music] ... Socialized Medicine! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage
Bush says we can have both the most expensive military in the world AND huge tax cuts for the wealthiest. So there. swalms wrote: So stay in Uruguay! -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Tom Irwin *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2007 7:25 AM *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage Hi Mike and all, Folks in America can't have everything. There have to be priorities. You can have the most expensive military in the world chasing ghosts or you can have national healthcare. Now in Uruguay I pay some pretty heavy taxes but everyone has healthcare. My prescriptions are U$5.00 each. They cost 10 times that in the states but at least there I can get frisked by airport security and photographed by a multitude of hidden cameras for my taxes. Now that's value. :- Tom Irwin Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger http://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/2731??PS=47575 Download today it's FREE! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage
I think Mr. Rush Limbaugh knows a little more than you do about prescriptions, Mr. Smarty pants Canadian. Just how many Percocet prescriptions can you get from you family physician ? Eh? Eh? Probably none. That's why USA is #1! robert rabello wrote: - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 17, 2007 5:05 am Subject: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org My Encounter with [Insert Scary Music] ... Socialized Medicine! Gasp! snip I was back at Ann’s in just over an hour from when I left—with my letter, my boot, and my tale of smiling, pleasant, and efficient health care workers. And somehow I began to believe that back in America we weren’t being given the whole truth. And guess what? Ann tells me that David Beckham and Wayne Rooney, the biggest British soccer (football) stars, have had metatarsal bone fractures, just like mine. In about six weeks, I too will be back on the field, thanks to socialized medicine! I've lived under both systems, and there is NO WAY that I would ever desire to return to America's free market medicine. The system in the US works well if you have a lot of money, a category I have never fit into, and therefore did not have a good experience with health care in my own country, but here in Canada, when I have a medical issue I simply go to my family physician. Rush Limbaugh and the other ranting lunatics have it wrong, as usual . . . robert luis rabello ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage
I agree - my folks were overseas for a year and the NHS saw my old man thru 2 big problems just fine. I think the US system is great...if you happen to be rich. Nobody in the US knows how the NHS or any other European system works: They always bleat: But I don't want the Government telling me which doctor to see. I always point out that that's not true anywhere there is socialized medicine; there is a thriving health insurance industry in the EU, and no policeman will arrest you for walking into Dr. Jone's office, seeing him and then paying the bill. Just like you can do here. The right has brain-washed to US to believe they'll forced into health collectives and shot if they leave. Where I live we have socialized trash pick up, for heaven's sake. But not to worry, we're catching up to the UK fast when it comes to video spying... -Mike malcolm maclure wrote: Hi Mike, all. Glad your experience was Ok. I'm in the UK a few years ago my dad had a nasty stroke, he waited on an ambulance trolley in AE for 7 hrs for a bed in a ward, he devoted his working life to the NHS as a brilliant ophthalmologist! I do have to say that sometimes our NHS may not be perfect all the time, but we are damn lucky to have it. I've used AE a good few times I'm glad it's there - I can't imagine living with the US system, it seems so elitist. The US spends trillions of $'s warmongering yet it can't provide healthcare for all, a basic human right it purports to promote. No offence to you at all Mike, but I'm glad I'm British ( there are a lot of things British that I'm not proud of) I wouldn't like the way the US behaves in the world on our collective conscience. Best regards Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Weaver Sent: 16 August 2007 15:05 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage My Encounter with [Insert Scary Music] ... Socialized Medicine! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bloody outrage
I have no intention of leaving. From: "swalms" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Bloody outrageDate: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:42:14 -0700 So stay in Uruguay!Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
