We are trying to scale the batteries and inverter for maximum
efficiency. I will investigate the inverter options further if 48v
battery charging is more efficient. You mention that battery
inefficiency isn't that bad if charge/discharge is done at sane rates.
Can you elaborate on this? We
Jai Haissman wrote:
Thanks for the reply Martin!
We are trying to scale the batteries and inverter for maximum
efficiency. I will investigate the inverter options further if 48v
battery charging is more efficient. You mention that battery
inefficiency isn't that bad if charge/discharge is
Jai Haissman wrote:
greetings... great thread!
I just found this after several weeks of election related decline. I am
in NorCal, USA with an Elliot Systems genset ready to green our local
neighborhood. It is a 19Kw/21Kw peak set for 3 households: 2 neighbors
and ourselves. We intend to
I just found this after several weeks of election related decline. I am
in NorCal, USA with an Elliot Systems genset ready to green our local
neighborhood. It is a 19Kw/21Kw peak set for 3 households: 2 neighbors
and ourselves. We intend to use B100 for engine longevity, but are
considering
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You are assuming you will run the meter backwards. They dont allow mass
inputs of power usually.
But you could offset you bill during
Dear Gene:
Congratulations for your success and please keep us posted on your further
experiments and developments. In exchange
we will throw in our two cents from time to time.
With warmest regards,
Luis R. Calzadilla
Fundacion Sugar Cane Research Organization
Cali, colombia
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Because I'm
from svo, or wvo?
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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Ok. Let's leave the same proposition out
to the
whole
roost.
Todd Swearingen
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That fellow Skip who wrote More Power to You said he knew China
diesel
owners
be unnecessary in many instances.
Todd Swearingen
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From: Lyle Estill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:34 PM
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Gang,
I've enjoyed this thread for awhile now, and have finally
And this is based on what theory?
Greg H.
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Ok. Let's leave the same proposition out there. Creating electricity
Based on what?
Greg H.
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You are right. Efficient might be the wrong word. Perhaps bargain
would be a better
close to the disbenefits of fossil fuels.
Todd Swearingen
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I never intended the use of biodiesel.
The idea
Swearingen
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From: Lyle Estill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You are right. Efficient might be the wrong word. Perhaps bargain
would be a better choice,
65% energy
: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:34 PM
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Gang,
I've enjoyed this thread for awhile now, and have finally found the
courage to post.
Is it not true that the grid is so much more efficient than Rob's
generator that making electricity
The impossibility to use it worldwide?
if we plant for it , there's no more space for food...
From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:29:29 -0500
Start Here:
Vegetable
Lyle Estill wrote:
Ok. Let's leave the same proposition out there. Creating electricity
from svo is a monumental waste of energy.
If it takes three train cars of coal to make one train car of electricity
how many train cars are necessary using wind turbines?
Is there any added benefit
100 years.
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Sent: October 9, 2004 12:29 AM
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Start Here:
Vegetable oil has the potential to be 100% carbon neutral
Is ethanol energy-efficient?
http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_energy.html
Keith
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:29:29 -0500
Start Here:
Vegetable oil has
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here's one .
The impossibility to use it worldwide?
if we plant for it , there's no more space for food...
Very
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I'll plead ignorance right off the bat.
But is fossil fuel truely carbon negative? The plants and animals
] Back to grid via WVO genset
here's one .
The impossibility to use it worldwide?
if we plant for it , there's no more space for food...
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct
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I'll plead ignorance right off the bat.
But is fossil fuel truely carbon negative? The plants and animals
From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This is absolutely false.
here's one .
The impossibility to use it worldwide?
if we plant for it , there's
non-issue, see Is ethanol energy-efficient?
http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_energy.html
Keith
From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:29:29 -0500
Start Here
, October 09, 2004 04:56
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I'll plead ignorance right off the bat.
But is fossil fuel truely carbon negative? The plants and animals they
are
derived from were living and breathing albeit a few million years ago.
It's
just been held in escrow
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From: Robert Del Bueno
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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:11 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset
So looking at my power bill for my recording studio business, we use on
average about 2000kWH per month.
If I were to run a 30kW diesel genset on SVO for 2.5 hours
My Detroit Diesel is rated for 40k hours between rebuilds.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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That fellow
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My Detroit Diesel is rated for 40k hours between rebuilds.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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roost.
Todd Swearingen
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That fellow Skip who wrote More Power to You said he knew China
diesel
owners that had
, 2004 8:26 PM
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That fellow Skip who wrote More Power to You said he knew China diesel
owners that had in excess of 10,000 hours without a rebuild. We know trucks
go 100 miles and at an avg of 50mph that is 20.000 hours
Kirk
Appal Energy
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From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That fellow Skip who wrote More Power to You said he knew China diesel
owners that had in excess of 10,000 hours without a rebuild. We know
Apple Awards 2002
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I suspect and believe that one could double that to 40,000 hours with
kd420, 0R ep4 combustion enhancing technology.
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent Energy
, 2004 6:59 AM
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I suspect and believe that one could double that to 40,000 hours with
kd420, 0R ep4 combustion enhancing technology.
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent Energy
by
making biodiesel might be unnecessary in many instances.
Todd Swearingen
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Gang,
I've enjoyed this thread for awhile
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I suspect that expecting
: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:34 PM
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Gang,
I've enjoyed this thread for awhile now, and have finally found the
courage to post.
Is it not true that the grid is so much more efficient than Rob's
generator that making electricity from biodiesel
be unnecessary in many instances.
Todd Swearingen
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From: Lyle Estill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:34 PM
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Gang,
I've enjoyed this thread for awhile now, and have finally
average about 2000kWH per month.
If I were to run a 30kW diesel genset on SVO for 2.5 hours a day, 30 days a
month...
75Hx30kW=2250kWH ...
I know that net-metering in Georgia does not pay retail rates for intertie
power, but hell, even if I had to run for 3-4 hours a day, seems like I
year.
Todd Swearingen
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From: Robert Del Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:11 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset
So looking at my power bill for my recording studio business, we use on
average about
Robert:
Good idea you have and not missing too much but for
smaller applications usually the cost of standby
charges and the electrical switchgear cost make for
an expensive proposition with unanticipated costs. I
know this because of my previous fomer career in
energy for both small and large
Sounds good to me.
Check out micro cogeneration at Yahoo groups
Kirk
Robert Del Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So looking at my power bill for my recording studio business, we use on
average about 2000kWH per month.
If I were to run a 30kW diesel genset on SVO for 2.5 hours a day, 30 days a
out how to cut energy costs,
cooling, servers etc.
mel
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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:11 PM
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So looking at my power bill for my recording studio
24/7/365 and I am trying to figure out how to cut
energy costs, cooling, servers etc.
mel
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So looking
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