Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-21 Thread Keith Addison
Are we here to attain the answers or the questions? Why choose? I can't imagine a forum that only did one but not the other. Best Keith >My thanks to all. > >Doug > >----- Original Message - >From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: We

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-21 Thread lres1
ednesday, June 21, 2006 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic > This may work for grapes but keep it the hell away from tomato plants or > you'll find out what the tobaco mosaic virus is! > > Joe > > JJJN wrote: > > > I was going to mix some of this

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-21 Thread Mark Manchester
>> Doug >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Nicotine will kill everything else too, including the bugs that eat >>> the bugs eating your grapevines. It won't kill the vines though. >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Keith >>> &g

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-21 Thread Joe Street
l everything else too, including the bugs that eat >>the bugs eating your grapevines. It won't kill the vines though. >> >>Best >> >>Keith >> >> >> >> >> >>>- Original Message - >>>From: <mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-21 Thread lres1
res I have more goals to attain in this world. Are we here to attain the answers or the questions? My thanks to all. Doug - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topi

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-20 Thread lres1
discussion would be a help here Doug From: "JJJN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic > I was going to mix some of this up about 7 years ago, It so happened > that I asked a farmer about it and he t

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-20 Thread Keith Addison
available on using nicotine, derris, rotenone, pyrethrum, quassia, sulphur, bordeaux mixture, potassium permanganate, soft soap and FA soap, and so on and on, but it's just another blind alley. Best Keith >Doug > >From: "JJJN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To:

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-20 Thread JJJN
> >Nicotine will kill everything else too, including the bugs that eat >the bugs eating your grapevines. It won't kill the vines though. > >Best > >Keith > > > > >>- Original Message - >>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Fred Finch >>

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-19 Thread Doug Turner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of lres1Sent: June 19, 2006 9:27 AMTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic Will this kill the bugs busy eating away my precious grape vines and shade area without harming the vine. That is used

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-19 Thread Thomas Kelly
, June 19, 2006 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic > Hi Thomas, > Thanks, I will start putting compost on soon. Every thing is going well > except my gourds, they dont seem to like this latitude or something. My > jeruselum artichokes are going crazy they ar

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-19 Thread robert and benita rabello
Keith Addison wrote: >Nicotine will kill everything else too, including the bugs that eat >the bugs eating your grapevines. It won't kill the vines though. > >Best > >Keith > > > > This is why the whole "pest management" approach is fundamentally flawed. Plants should be able to tolerate

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-19 Thread Keith Addison
bugs that eat the bugs eating your grapevines. It won't kill the vines though. Best Keith >- Original Message - >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Fred Finch >To: <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Sent: Monday, June 19, 20

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-19 Thread Keith Addison
it >was blocked with a mosquito screen stopping the poor mozzy from escaping the >cooking. >Doug > >- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve Racz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 6:24 PM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic > > &

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-19 Thread robert and benita rabello
lres1 wrote: Will this kill the bugs busy eating away my precious grape vines and shade area without harming the vine. That is used tobacco and some soap liquid mixed with water and pump it from a hand sprayer? Got sunlight soap here for the dishes, lemon scent even.   Summary.

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-19 Thread lres1
TED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic > I have to agree here. I kept an organic lawn for 10 years. I used a mulching > mower to put the clippings back into the lawn and used the mower on its > tallest setting. The rare time I wate

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-19 Thread lres1
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic Jim, Instead of ammonia, get a pack of chewing tobacco.  Soak it in a gallon of water for a day in the sun.  Strain the tobacco out and then add the dish soap.  Spray it on the buggies.  The nicotine

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-19 Thread Fred Finch
Jim, Instead of ammonia, get a pack of chewing tobacco.  Soak it in a gallon of water for a day in the sun.  Strain the tobacco out and then add the dish soap.  Spray it on the buggies.  The nicotine is absorbed into the little critters and they die.  The plants don't care either way about the stuf

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-19 Thread Steve Racz
o: Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic > JJJN wrote: >>Hello folks, any organic lawn experts out there? I have been >>encroaching out 75% of my lawn with food plants for both wildlife and >>humans, but I still have this 25% and living

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-19 Thread Chris Lloyd
> If you get rotted horse manure next year ("rotted" being a word that covers a host of sins) use it to make compost.< We used to have a nice local farmer who used straw to bed the horses down in and he just piled the old bedding up in one long 25 ton heap so the old end was about 5 years old. G

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-18 Thread lres1
ges. Doug - Original Message - From: "robert and benita rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic > Chris Lloyd wrote: > > >Some compost has virtually no ability to fertilise anything, I got

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-18 Thread JJJN
Robert, I was told that if you take one cup Lemon dish soap and mix with one cup lemon ammonia and spray like you would with a pesticide bottle that you hook on the end of a garden hose. At first I thought the idea sounded good but then what is in all that stuff? and if it kills the bad guys w

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-18 Thread JJJN
ck. It's much too >valuable to me to use on large areas of lawn. > How's the garden coming? > Tom >- Original Message - >From: "JJJN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "BIO" >Sent: Saturday, J

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Chris > > Forget about "fertilisers" (like bloodmeal, >bonemeal etc), whether "organic" or not, as Robert says it's just >replacing chemical fertilizers with non chemical fertilizers. Use >sifted compost and compost tea. < > >Some compost has virtually no ability to fertilise anything, I got

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-18 Thread robert and benita rabello
Chris Lloyd wrote: >Some compost has virtually no ability to fertilise anything, I got caught >out this year with the half ton I got for growing tomatoes in. It was >supposed to be composted household waste and tree leaves, looked good, smelt >good and will probably make a good soil improver bu

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Weaver
I hate my lawn. Pointless, and the lawn owners are killing the Chesapeake bay w/ fertilizer robert and benita rabello wrote: >JJJN wrote: > > > >>Hello folks, any organic lawn experts out there? I have been >>encroaching out 75% of my lawn with food plants for both wildlife and >>humans

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-18 Thread Chris Lloyd
> Forget about "fertilisers" (like bloodmeal, bonemeal etc), whether "organic" or not, as Robert says it's just replacing chemical fertilizers with non chemical fertilizers. Use sifted compost and compost tea. < Some compost has virtually no ability to fertilise anything, I got caught out this ye

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-18 Thread Keith Addison
This is a little out of date and I don't really agree with some of it, but it might help. Forget about "fertilisers" (like bloodmeal, bonemeal etc), whether "organic" or not, as Robert says it's just replacing chemical fertilizers with non chemical fertilizers. Use sifted compost and compost te

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-18 Thread DB
gt; To: Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic > JJJN wrote: > >>Hello folks, any organic lawn experts out there? I have been >>encroaching out 75% of my lawn with food plants for both wildlife and >>humans, but I still have this

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-18 Thread robert and benita rabello
JJJN wrote: >Hello folks, any organic lawn experts out there? I have been >encroaching out 75% of my lawn with food plants for both wildlife and >humans, but I still have this 25% and living in town I need to keep >it lawn. the question is how does one raise a great lawn without weed >

Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-18 Thread Thomas Kelly
eas - to bring them back. It's much too valuable to me to use on large areas of lawn. How's the garden coming? Tom - Original Message - From: "JJJN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BIO" Sent: Saturday, Jun

[Biofuel] Lawn question off topic

2006-06-17 Thread JJJN
Hello folks, any organic lawn experts out there? I have been encroaching out 75% of my lawn with food plants for both wildlife and humans, but I still have this 25% and living in town I need to keep it lawn. the question is how does one raise a great lawn without weed killers etc? I ha