Hi folks
i believe that there used to be a diesel motorbike available in the UK made
by Honda i have never seen one but would love to find one.
Steve Welham UK
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From: Doug Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 June 2004 11:12
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
Kevin ,
I can't offer you very much help on this one - I've been on the lookout for the
same plans myself recently but have not come across very much specifically on
condensers .
I gather from what I've read that most people channel the methanol vapours
through a coil which sits in a bath
Well, my first test batch is done, and the end result is less than
spectacular. Wondering if anyone has any ideas.
I completed the second stage as instructed. 1/2 of my methoxide in,
mix for 5 minutes, heat to 130 F, add the remaining methoxide and
mix hot until nice golden amber. This
Woah, I wasn't expecting replies like this. I would like to remind Todd
and everyone else that if we watch and believe what we see on the news, we
ARE believing what we see and/or read. Don't forget that the mainstream
media is generally aligned with the left, and I'm confident that we
Yes jkolling, a nice pun it is! But I think (I hope) that some of the
reason we are over in Iraq is to suppress the terrorist activity. It
doesn't seem that way at times though. Bush actually creates an
environment for these types of things
to florish. -If he doesn't achieve his goals,
Todd,
Obviously what is ugly and hateful to me are legitimate and acceptable
to you. I saw very little discussion of facts in this thread and very
much Zionist bashing propaganda. Know your sources of information,
question it's authenticity.
I do not see my attack as unwarranted, spreading
Actually Luc was telling many lies about Jewish theology. Talmud is in
fact a written commentaries to Torah.
It was created over the centuries by some of the greatest minds.
If you go to any bookstore you can buy it there. There is an oral law as
well, which was recorded into books many
HI STEVEN
I'M TRIYING TO BUILD MY PROCESSOR AND I NEED SOME IDEASCAN YOU HELP ME.
IF YOU HAVE PICTURES I WOULD APRECCIATE YOUR COLABORATION.
THANKS.
JORGE ESCOBAR
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From: Steven Pfaff
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:29 AM
Just a quick reply,
According to my understanding of the process glycerine does not form until the
triglyceride bonds have been broken.
(creating esters)
are you perhaps asking how to insure a more complete conversion? try removing
the glycerinduring the conversion
process to make sure that it
This is exactly what happened to our 2000 Chevy Venture. My wife
called me one day and told me that our mini van was on the side of
the road and she didn't know what was wrong with it. We towed it to
the nearest repair shop and they said it was the gas gauge. They
said to watch the miles
Martin,
I am sending a copy of our proposal as an email attachment , it is having our
results and also what we are going to do in future.
I am doing lab set up so that i can start up by experiments as soon as i get
results i will post to you.
Thank You
Irshad
Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL
Hi all
I am beginning to brew my own biodiesel and am wondering am I going
to run into any trouble with the state (or Feds) of Montana for not
paying road tax? What if I sell extra to friends?
Thankx
Gary
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Cmon.give the Bushman a break fellas, donchya know its election
time? he needs that Green vote to win and Naderites love
biodiesel . heck ive got a picture of George herbert, the senior
bushman ,sitting in an ethanol powered car. Bio diesel will be taken
over by the big boys just like
Murdoch,
Thanks for your suport on some issues and disagreement with others. Just
for the record, most Jews don't consider themselves a race, that is an
almost ancient way of depicting Jews as physically/spiritually different
from the Human race. It is also a major foundation for much Jew
Hi Keith.
Your assumption is not quite right, although your comments remain
insightful.
I am French-Canadian (canadien), member of a colonized people.
Pierre
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Pierre, and all
This is all quite correct, but you
My post was realy a comment on the shaping of the public by the media
and whoever is trying to push the point from behind the scenes (oil
companies?). It just is increcible to me that both sides of the story
were not portrayed in a equal manner and the benefits of using a
renewable form of
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An interesting article about the upsurge of BD. Nice to see the
efforts of those who have worked so hard come into it's own. You
know who you are; Keith, Todd, Girl Mark and many others, it IS
having an impact. Keep it up.
Luc
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Apparently, the only place that is being hit by the rising costs of
oil are the ones that depend on the US dollar as it's base currency.
http://goldmoney.com/en/commentary/2004-02-18.html
Should OPEC go en-masse to the Euro (which is what Saddam did) the
US economy would crash overnight
You are full of hate and I feel very sorry for you.
There are fanatic / extremist views in every religion... and it is simply
not productive to hate and blame. Right now we seem to be living in a world
where the vast majority of modorit thinking people are being oppressed by
the will of
i was wondering if anyone has tried to lower the viscosity(thickness) of
biofuel and make it more easily combustible?
has anyone had problems with mixing biofuel and alcohols?
thanx for the feed back!
--Beth
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I would like to second that. If anyone can help in bringing down the
geling point of BD then that would make the need to blend petro
diesel for the colder months unecessary, or at least limit it.
This making of the BD is a first at chemistry for me (not much of an
attention getter in school),
I have been wondering about the feasibility of incorporating
the outdoor kitchen in a type of roll-out version on a track that
could open up into a porch or gazebo type environment for the warm
months and stay closed in the cold, although that would almost
necessitate a secondary wall section
Brendan:
Thanks for the various points.
The news about the TurboDiesel at Le Mans this year makes me want to
watch it June 12-13 (not many races have two days instead of one).
http://www.lemans.org/univers_sport/24hauto/live/index_gb.html
I wouldn't look at Indy or NASCAR to provide
Hello,
I've recently become interested in biodiesel production and have
built a processor based on a design from journeytoforever.com. I've
run three batches, with the most recent being a 15 gallon run that
had some residual motor oil in it from the free 55 gallon drum that I
used to pick
Jorge,
I am only in the building process myself so I may not be your best resource.
This is the design I will be using to build my processors.
http://www.veggieavenger.com/avengerboard/viewtopic.php?t=332
Here is another example of a 5 Gal. processor
Microbial Hydrogen Production
http://www.afrlhorizons.com/Briefs/Jun03/ML0227.html
Researchers explore microbial hydrogen production as
key to an alternative energy source at bare base
facilities (locations without permanent living facilities).
AFRL's Materials and Manufacturing Directorate,
Microbial bioreactors
http://chem.ch.huji.ac.il/~eugeniik/biofuel/biofuel_cells2_1.html
Various bacteria and algae, for example
Escherichia coli, Enterobacter aerogenes,
Clostridium butyricum, Clostridium acetobutylicum,
and Clostridium perfringens have been found to be
active in hydrogen
From: girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bubble washing.
allegedly it's an animal fats thing. I haven't personally dealt with
it because in the US we don't get fast food cooked in animal fats.
anyone else (ie australians, eaters of fine tallow fried ... er...
food), more info?
ARE believing what we see and/or read. Don't forget that the mainstream
media is generally aligned with the left,
That's your opinion
and I'm confident that we aren't
getting the whole story-unfortunately
This I agree with
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Hi,
I'm new here.
I put this same question to the USA's Hydrogen energy kzar's during
the MRS Spring Meeting in San Francisco. They were basically there
to recruit Academics and researchers into H2 RD.
I asked 'Why hydrogen, why not bio-derived alternatives?' the answer
was 'political' to
Hi,
I'm looking to start producing some Bio-Diesel. But have come across
a big stubling block. Where do I get methanol? So far I have only
found it as an additive to ethanol in methylated spirit at about
£2.40/Litre I guess I could try using this but since I've never done
it before I'd like
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Thanks M.
I have not a clue to construct a condensor unit. I do see pictures on
biodiesel processors that have inline units, but it doesn't go into detail
on parts needed and recommeded tips, such as the Girl-Mark Fumeless plans.
This is really important and a great help in my biodiesel
liter water in a clean 2 liter bottle, decanted the biodiesel on top
of it, then shook.
Agitated too vigorously too early in the wash stage is probably the problem
as this caused emusions. No need to waste your test batch...let it stand
for a month in a dark place and you should see it
Martin,
I am sending a copy of our proposal as an email attachment , it is
having our results and also what we are going to do in future.
I am doing lab set up so that i can start up by experiments as soon
as i get results i will post to you.
Thank You
Irshad
Irshad, as an essential anti-virus
Hi Pierre
Hi Keith.
Your assumption is not quite right, although your comments remain
insightful.
I am French-Canadian (canadien), member of a colonized people.
Well, I suppose so. All very confusing. My comparison would move you
one step back, to the society that colonised the place and its
Apparently, the only place that is being hit by the rising costs of
oil are the ones that depend on the US dollar as it's base currency.
http://goldmoney.com/en/commentary/2004-02-18.html
Should OPEC go en-masse to the Euro (which is what Saddam did) the
US economy would crash overnight
Hello Kevin, Michael
Kevin ,
I can't offer you very much help on this one - I've been on the
lookout for the same plans myself recently but have not come across
very much specifically on condensers .
I gather from what I've read that most people channel the methanol
vapours through a coil
Hello Nick
My post was realy a comment on the shaping of the public by the media
and whoever is trying to push the point from behind the scenes (oil
companies?). It just is increcible to me that both sides of the story
were not portrayed in a equal manner and the benefits of using a
renewable
Hello Arthur
You lose!
I suppose it's no big surprise that a thread such as this should hit
Godwin's Law, but it sure didn't take you long.
In case you don't know it: Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] As a
Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
involving Nazis or
Apologies friends, there has been some disruption at the Biofuel list
today. I think it's all sorted out now.
Best wishes
Keith Addison
List owner
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I don't know exactly, but an ex-employee of Mc-Donald's in Belgium told me
once that (at least in Belgium) the frying stuff contains animal fat.
At 11:02 AM 6/2/2004 +0200, you wrote:
From: girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bubble washing.
allegedly it's an animal fats
start with the first process NOT using sulfuric acid. untill you get some
good results. go to juorney to forever and start where they say to start .
dont skip any steps I am a newbie doing the same thing you are I built a
touchless processor and am just starting out... I fortunatly
Woah, I wasn't expecting replies like this. I would like to remind Todd
and everyone else that if we watch and believe what we see on the news, we
ARE believing what we see and/or read. Don't forget that the mainstream
media is generally aligned with the left, and I'm confident that we
I always thought that Rush Limbaugh was mainstream media. You feel
that he, and all of the posers that have come after him, are aligned
with the left? I'd hate to see where your right is located.
Brian
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Eric M. Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Woah, I wasn't
Hello Gents,
Am I to understand that the methanol can be recovered from the entire
Biodiesel/Glycerin mix before decanting/separating? In doing this, do any
separation problems occur? I don't plan to break down the glycerin into it's
elements, rather I plan to use it as a degreaser/hand
Alex,
Rather than calling another a liar under the guise of politeness, why not
point out whatever errors exist somewhat more precisely as well as
indicating any accuracies.
For those of us who could almost give one whit less about the minutia of
organized religion, whether having experienced
SNIP
Thanks for you reply Keith,
It helps to clear things up when the story comes out from more than
one source( this relates to other threads in this group too). Its
funny that Rob Carter from the NRMA is perpetuating the myth when
the NRMA was involved in the research paper from Apace
David,
Who says that the batch you have on hand is bad?
Biodiesel smells largely like the parent stock. If the oil smells bad, so
will the fuel. Smell is subjective and not an indicator of whether the fuel
is sufficient or not.
As to hazy fuel, either let it set until the micro-droplets of
Kevin,
Thanks for the help. I suspect that overly vigorous agitation is a
big part of the problem. The top layer of what I have does seem to
be very slowly clearing, as you predict.
Rereading the process on the JTF site, I also notice that they say
that if you get less than 100 cc
Brian,
Any other thoughts? Other than going back and adhering to the instructions
more precisely?
Nope. Not a one.
What you apparently have is an incomplete reaction on the base side, leaving
you with a compliment of esters and emulsifiers, the latter being unreacted
mono- and di-glycerides.
Hello Eric
Woah, I wasn't expecting replies like this.
I'm sure you weren't.
I would like to remind Todd
and everyone else that if we watch and believe what we see on the news, we
ARE believing what we see and/or read.
Seeing is believing, eh? Maybe in your case it is. You have a problem
Eric,
Who watches television?
As for your preposition that oil revenues going to foreign sources
propigates terrorism, you might want to broaden your horizons just a bit and
take a look at the myriad of methods that have been used to fund known
terrorist organizations. They range from lollipop
Matt,
Why don't you and Arthur and Alex get a grip and stop with all the
declarations of who is and isn't full of hate?
Most people get up in the morning after a reasonably peaceful sleep and set
about their business in a reasonably peaceful manner.
That all rather changes hue the moment souls
If you think Rush Limbaugh is main stream, you need to be adjusted.
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From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 08:01
Subject: [biofuel] (unknown)
I always thought that Rush Limbaugh was mainstream media. You feel
Matt,
You are the first person in my life who accused me of being full of hate. I
have been called many things in heated discussions, but never this. I just
wonder, who am I supposed to hate?
This is not completely true, because there are women in my life that have
said you do not love me
I have a bunch of questions, some of which I'm sure have been
answered, but after the fifth or sixth post about how cold it was in
insert city here I figured I'd be better served to pick someones
brains.
I don't currently own a diesel car or anything like that, but I like
the idea of 40+
Todd,
I think I generally outlined why I considered Luc's writing a bunch of lies.
I can direct you to the source to find it out first hand - go to any
Jewish bookstore or the library,
you will find wealth of information there - lots of books. Some people
spend their entire life
studying them.
Hi: I am a lurker in this group, mostly just reading what others have
to say.
I ran across this yesterday
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38645
Regarding the source of petroleum reserves.
John Donahue
Hi Keith,
I never thought it was possible to win ,but it is still important
to keep fighting the fight, I posted this sight
http://skepdic.com/protocols.html as some substantiation as to the
intent and origins of the Protocols. Did you follow the link? This
work was created as
Todd,
Although you may not have interest in the minutia of organized
religion it is this minutia that composes the standards and values of
the particular religion /society.
Also I am not sure if my reply to you was posted so here it is again:
Todd,
Obviously what is ugly and hateful to me
I don't feel that Rush Limbaugh is mainstream. I do feel that he is
a good example of mainstream media. Al Franken is making attempts
to bring media back toward the center, but that doesn't seem to be
going all that well.
Brian
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, RICHARD BOGRAD [EMAIL
Greetings list,
I have a question. If you do a test batch and you get a glob of what looks
like hard grease or bad looking soap, wouldn't that mean that you probably
used to much lye?
Rick M
Brownstown, Mi.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Or he has been listening to a bunch of Texans. grin
Bright Blessings,
Kim [who lives in Texas]
At 09:05 AM 6/2/2004, you wrote:
If you think Rush Limbaugh is main stream, you need to be adjusted.
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From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Hi Peggy, Brian and all
start with the first process NOT using sulfuric acid. untill you get some
good results. go to juorney to forever and start where they say to start .
dont skip any steps I am a newbie doing the same thing you are I built a
touchless processor and am just starting
Hi Brian
Kevin,
Thanks for the help. I suspect that overly vigorous agitation is a
big part of the problem. The top layer of what I have does seem to
be very slowly clearing, as you predict.
Try heating it. Not direct heat, use hot water, don't agitate the bd
again, try to keep it as-is in
Todd,
Thanks for the input. I am planning to try again this weekend, and
do exactly what you suggest, adhere to the instructions more
precisely.
Brian
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian,
Any other thoughts? Other than going back and adhering to
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem99/chem99525.htm
Hello
I Have an hydrogen question
Can you please tell me about the energy density, in terms of the
energy available per gram or litre.
Burning one mole, 2.015 g, of hydrogen in air releases 57.796 kilocalories.
Richard
Hakan,
It does not take a genius to (I am certainly not one) to realize that
any mention of the Protocols
is blatant expression of I hate the Jews. My personal goal is not to
interest you on an academic level but to alert you to real hate
mongering. Check out this history of the document
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 19:49:39 +0900, you wrote:
Hello Arthur
You lose!
I suppose it's no big surprise that a thread such as this should hit
Godwin's Law, but it sure didn't take you long.
[...]
Whether you agree with it or not, Luc provided some analysis and some
references and links, which
Murdoch,
Thanks for your suport on some issues and disagreement with others. Just
for the record, most Jews don't consider themselves a race, that is an
almost ancient way of depicting Jews as physically/spiritually different
from the Human race. It is also a major foundation for much Jew
Todd,
Thanks for the advice. I did a small test batch and reprocessed as neat oil.
I got a
separation - a layer on the bottom that was transparent and straw colored - the
rest
of the liquid remained apple ciderish. It seems confusing to me - is this
bottom layer
glycerin or something
Hi Keith,
I never thought it was possible to win ,but it is still important
to keep fighting the fight, I posted this sight
Subsequently.
http://skepdic.com/protocols.html as some substantiation as to the
intent and origins of the Protocols. Did you follow the link? This
work was
Todd,
Although you may not have interest in the minutia of organized
religion it is this minutia that composes the standards and values of
the particular religion /society.
Also I am not sure if my reply to you was posted so here it is again:
Hi Randall
This might help:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html
Biodiesel in winter
Best
Keith
I have a bunch of questions, some of which I'm sure have been
answered, but after the fifth or sixth post about how cold it was in
insert city here I figured I'd be better served to
Hello MM
Please see below.
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 19:49:39 +0900, you wrote:
Hello Arthur
You lose!
I suppose it's no big surprise that a thread such as this should hit
Godwin's Law, but it sure didn't take you long.
[...]
Whether you agree with it or not, Luc provided some analysis
Alex,
I believe that you are in error as to what you think you did in your post.
What I suggested was that the least you could do is post something more than
generalities and your opinion, especially if your attempt is to support the
claim of liar.
I suppose that I was wrong. You managed to do
I've no choice but to work with the two quotes you've provided, one
of them from me, in which I did not as you allege praise Luc mightily
nor even unmightily for anything, nor have I yet expressed any
opinion on the substance of any of his posts. I haven't noticed
anyone praising Luc for
Murdoch,
What I mean is that generally you seem glad to have the topic raised,
and that generally some of Luc's comments points seem to be
agreed-with, by yourself and-or by Todd.
That's incorrect. What I did state and should have been inferred by anyone
with eyes not clouded with fear, hate
Hallo MM,
The problem we have here is twofold. First, just as the phrase
national security hides a lot of sins (so to speak), the phrase
anti-semite intimidates and silences a lot of tongues and pens. This
is why there is *no comment* from the all-of-a-sudden too-busy
gallery
Very good Gustl,
Not much I want to add, thinking about it, in fact nothing. It is also my
dream
that people get together and do something more productive than killing each
other in the name of god (the same one) and only because of writings that we
do not know the origin, motives or
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