Re: [Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

2008-10-01 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Dawie

Naomi Klein's Disaster Capitalism might be another way of saying 
that, or maybe an example of it, one way the mechanism works.

Best

Keith


Hi Tom

My point is that we'd be very foolish to take corporate statements 
as face-value reflections of corporations' aims and desires: 
corporate statements very often reflect the precise opposite of 
their aims and desires. Corporations aren't human, they have no 
human need to express themselves. If they make statements it is not 
from some understandable inner impulse to get something off their 
chest. If not for definite strategic purposes they would make no 
statements at all.

So, when there is an Issue and we find a corporation saying, 
whatever you do, don't do X, in a situation where people are up in 
arms and ready to defenestrate the board of directors and government 
officials are eager to take up the people's cause, is it not safe to 
assume that at the very least the corporation has no real fear of X? 
Chances are it was the corporation who introduced X into the debate, 
though nobody remembers that; and that X is what the corporation has 
been after all along.

But when people take whatever you do, don't do X to be a bona-fide 
expression of (human) fear, they feel that they are fighting the 
good fight when they do precisely X, forcing the corporation to do 
what it obviously doesn't want to do, and thus achieving a 
dear-bought victory: only they don't know the half of how 
dear-bought. The victories pile up, the war is within sight of its 
end, the corporate monster is tamed. It cowers demurely, but for 
some reason the problem it has caused just keeps getting bigger.

Best regards

Dawie Coetzee




- Original Message 
From: Tom Epp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, 30 September, 2008 19:30:34
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

Thanx Dawi,
Can you explain what you mean by
Corporations build nests for themselves thus, provoking the conditions they
want by taking a calculatedly vociferous stance AGAINST those conditions.?
Tom Epp

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Dawie Coetzee
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  The role of the villain can work for corporations as well as against them.
  If they can be sure they will ALWAYS be regarded as the villain they can
  predict the reaction to their actions with a lot of confidence. I believe
  this is of central strategic importance to them when it comes to
  manipulating government. It ought to be clear by now that large corporations
  thrive in a highly-regulated environment. That environment is most
  certain when it has popular support, which is best achieved by the illusion
  that measures are about limiting corporate abuse when they are in fact about
  maintaining corporate privilege. Corporations build nests for themselves
  thus, provoking the conditions they want by taking a calculatedly vociferous
  stance AGAINST those conditions.

  -Dawie



  - Original Message 
  From: Tom Epp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
  Sent: Monday, 29 September, 2008 19:49:42
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

  Why do some companies (like Monsanto) have such disregard for their
  reputation? It's so clear that greed drives this corporation, what benefits
  can come from this? Walmart acts this way too, and I don't see the
  benefits?
  It's almost like one day they just stopped caring. I suspect it will be the
  downfall of these companies.
  Tom Epp

  On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Some Farmers Now Protected Against  Monsanto Lawsuits
   _
  
 
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/27/some-farmers-no
   w-protected-against-monsanto-lawsuits.aspx?source=nl_
   (
  
 
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/27/some-farmers-now-protected-against-mons
anto-lawsuits.aspx?source=nl)
  
   Farmers with crops that become contaminated by patented  genetically
   engineered (GE) seeds or pollen have been the target of harassing
  lawsuits
   brought by
   biotech patent holders, especially Monsanto.
  
   But a landmark piece of legislation protecting California's  farmers from
   crippling lawsuits has passed through both legislative houses.
  
   AB 541 enacts protections against lawsuits brought against  California
   farmers who have not been able to prevent the inevitable drift of GE
pollen or seed
   onto their land. The bill also establishes a mandatory crop  sampling
   protocol to prevent biotech companies investigating alleged violations
from sampling
   crops without the explicit permission of the farmers who own the  land.
  
   Sources: Organic Consumers Association August 31,  2008
  _
   http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14436.cfm_
   (http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14436.cfm)
  
   Dr

Re: [Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

2008-09-30 Thread Tom Epp
Thanx Dawi,
Can you explain what you mean by
Corporations build nests for themselves thus, provoking the conditions they
want by taking a calculatedly vociferous stance AGAINST those conditions.?
Tom Epp

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Dawie Coetzee
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 The role of the villain can work for corporations as well as against them.
 If they can be sure they will ALWAYS be regarded as the villain they can
 predict the reaction to their actions with a lot of confidence. I believe
 this is of central strategic importance to them when it comes to
 manipulating government. It ought to be clear by now that large corporations
 thrive in a highly-regulated environment. That environment is most
 certain when it has popular support, which is best achieved by the illusion
 that measures are about limiting corporate abuse when they are in fact about
 maintaining corporate privilege. Corporations build nests for themselves
 thus, provoking the conditions they want by taking a calculatedly vociferous
 stance AGAINST those conditions.

 -Dawie



 - Original Message 
 From: Tom Epp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
 Sent: Monday, 29 September, 2008 19:49:42
 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

 Why do some companies (like Monsanto) have such disregard for their
 reputation? It's so clear that greed drives this corporation, what benefits
 can come from this? Walmart acts this way too, and I don't see the
 benefits?
 It's almost like one day they just stopped caring. I suspect it will be the
 downfall of these companies.
 Tom Epp

 On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Some Farmers Now Protected Against  Monsanto Lawsuits
  _
 
 http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/27/some-farmers-no
  w-protected-against-monsanto-lawsuits.aspx?source=nl_
  (
 
 http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/27/some-farmers-now-protected-against-mons
  anto-lawsuits.aspx?source=nl)
 
  Farmers with crops that become contaminated by patented  genetically
  engineered (GE) seeds or pollen have been the target of harassing
 lawsuits
  brought by
  biotech patent holders, especially Monsanto.
 
  But a landmark piece of legislation protecting California's  farmers from
  crippling lawsuits has passed through both legislative houses.
 
  AB 541 enacts protections against lawsuits brought against  California
  farmers who have not been able to prevent the inevitable drift of GE
   pollen or seed
  onto their land. The bill also establishes a mandatory crop  sampling
  protocol to prevent biotech companies investigating alleged violations
   from sampling
  crops without the explicit permission of the farmers who own the  land.
 
  Sources: Organic Consumers Association August 31,  2008
 _
  http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14436.cfm_
  (http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14436.cfm)
 
  Dr. Mercola's Comments:
 
  Imagine being a farmer who is trying to grow organic,  non-genetically
  modified crops. Then imagine those crops being contaminated by a
   neighbor's GM
  crops, whose seeds or pollen have blown over onto your land. Then
 imagine
  Monsanto coming in and trying to SUE you for violating the patent
 they've
  placed on
  those seeds!
 
  That is outrageous!
 
  Only a desperately evil company like Monsanto would have the  unbridled
  greed
  to pull something like that. What is most shocking, though, is  that
  Monsanto'
  s practice of targeting farmers for patent infringement is common,  and
  well
  planned out.
 
  It is not only the farmers whose crops have been contaminated  by
  Monsanto's
  GM seeds that are being investigated, but also farmers accused of  saving
  Monsanto's patented seeds to use the next year. Never mind that this is
   the way
  farmers have operated for generations; saving seeds from one year to the
   next
  makes sense financially and environmentally.
 
  Of course Monsanto saw it as a cut in their profits, so they  began to
  patent
  their seeds.
 
  Since the 1980s, Monsanto has become the world leader in  genetic
  modification of seeds and has won 674 biotechnology patents, more than
 any
  other
  company.
 
  But Monsanto is not only patenting their own GMO seeds. They  have also
  succeeded in slapping patents on a huge number of crop seeds,  patenting
  life forms
  for the first time -- without a vote of the people or  Congress.
 
  Farmers who buy Monsanto's Roundup Ready seeds are required to  sign an
  agreement promising not to save the seeds or sell them to other farmers
   (What if
  the farmer doesn't sign one? Not to worry, Monsanto has actually
 admitted
  to
  forging farmers' signatures on technology agreements if they didn't  have
  one
  on file).
 
  The end result of the agreements? Farmers must buy new seeds  every year,
  and
  they must buy them from Monsanto.
 
  Monsanto's

Re: [Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

2008-09-30 Thread Dawie Coetzee
Hi Tom
 
My point is that we'd be very foolish to take corporate statements as 
face-value reflections of corporations' aims and desires: corporate statements 
very often reflect the precise opposite of their aims and desires. Corporations 
aren't human, they have no human need to express themselves. If they make 
statements it is not from some understandable inner impulse to get something 
off their chest. If not for definite strategic purposes they would make no 
statements at all.
 
So, when there is an Issue and we find a corporation saying, whatever you do, 
don't do X, in a situation where people are up in arms and ready to 
defenestrate the board of directors and government officials are eager to take 
up the people's cause, is it not safe to assume that at the very least the 
corporation has no real fear of X? Chances are it was the corporation who 
introduced X into the debate, though nobody remembers that; and that X is what 
the corporation has been after all along.
 
But when people take whatever you do, don't do X to be a bona-fide expression 
of (human) fear, they feel that they are fighting the good fight when they do 
precisely X, forcing the corporation to do what it obviously doesn't want to 
do, and thus achieving a dear-bought victory: only they don't know the half of 
how dear-bought. The victories pile up, the war is within sight of its end, 
the corporate monster is tamed. It cowers demurely, but for some reason the 
problem it has caused just keeps getting bigger.
 
Best regards
 
Dawie Coetzee
 



- Original Message 
From: Tom Epp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, 30 September, 2008 19:30:34
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

Thanx Dawi,
Can you explain what you mean by
Corporations build nests for themselves thus, provoking the conditions they
want by taking a calculatedly vociferous stance AGAINST those conditions.?
Tom Epp

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Dawie Coetzee
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 The role of the villain can work for corporations as well as against them.
 If they can be sure they will ALWAYS be regarded as the villain they can
 predict the reaction to their actions with a lot of confidence. I believe
 this is of central strategic importance to them when it comes to
 manipulating government. It ought to be clear by now that large corporations
 thrive in a highly-regulated environment. That environment is most
 certain when it has popular support, which is best achieved by the illusion
 that measures are about limiting corporate abuse when they are in fact about
 maintaining corporate privilege. Corporations build nests for themselves
 thus, provoking the conditions they want by taking a calculatedly vociferous
 stance AGAINST those conditions.

 -Dawie



 - Original Message 
 From: Tom Epp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
 Sent: Monday, 29 September, 2008 19:49:42
 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

 Why do some companies (like Monsanto) have such disregard for their
 reputation? It's so clear that greed drives this corporation, what benefits
 can come from this? Walmart acts this way too, and I don't see the
 benefits?
 It's almost like one day they just stopped caring. I suspect it will be the
 downfall of these companies.
 Tom Epp

 On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Some Farmers Now Protected Against  Monsanto Lawsuits
  _
 
 http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/27/some-farmers-no
  w-protected-against-monsanto-lawsuits.aspx?source=nl_
  (
 
 http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/27/some-farmers-now-protected-against-mons
  anto-lawsuits.aspx?source=nl)
 
  Farmers with crops that become contaminated by patented  genetically
  engineered (GE) seeds or pollen have been the target of harassing
 lawsuits
  brought by
  biotech patent holders, especially Monsanto.
 
  But a landmark piece of legislation protecting California's  farmers from
  crippling lawsuits has passed through both legislative houses.
 
  AB 541 enacts protections against lawsuits brought against  California
  farmers who have not been able to prevent the inevitable drift of GE
   pollen or seed
  onto their land. The bill also establishes a mandatory crop  sampling
  protocol to prevent biotech companies investigating alleged violations
   from sampling
  crops without the explicit permission of the farmers who own the  land.
 
  Sources: Organic Consumers Association August 31,  2008
                 _
  http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14436.cfm_
  (http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14436.cfm)
 
  Dr. Mercola's Comments:
 
  Imagine being a farmer who is trying to grow organic,  non-genetically
  modified crops. Then imagine those crops being contaminated by a
   neighbor's GM
  crops, whose seeds or pollen have

Re: [Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

2008-09-29 Thread Tom Epp
Why do some companies (like Monsanto) have such disregard for their
reputation? It's so clear that greed drives this corporation, what benefits
can come from this? Walmart acts this way too, and I don't see the benefits?
It's almost like one day they just stopped caring. I suspect it will be the
downfall of these companies.
Tom Epp

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some Farmers Now Protected Against  Monsanto Lawsuits
 _
 http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/27/some-farmers-no
 w-protected-against-monsanto-lawsuits.aspx?source=nl_
 (
 http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/27/some-farmers-now-protected-against-mons
 anto-lawsuits.aspx?source=nl)

 Farmers with crops that become contaminated by patented  genetically
 engineered (GE) seeds or pollen have been the target of harassing  lawsuits
 brought by
 biotech patent holders, especially Monsanto.

 But a landmark piece of legislation protecting California's  farmers from
 crippling lawsuits has passed through both legislative houses.

 AB 541 enacts protections against lawsuits brought against  California
 farmers who have not been able to prevent the inevitable drift of GE
  pollen or seed
 onto their land. The bill also establishes a mandatory crop  sampling
 protocol to prevent biotech companies investigating alleged violations
  from sampling
 crops without the explicit permission of the farmers who own the  land.

 Sources: Organic Consumers Association August 31,  2008
 _
 http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14436.cfm_
 (http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14436.cfm)

 Dr. Mercola's Comments:

 Imagine being a farmer who is trying to grow organic,  non-genetically
 modified crops. Then imagine those crops being contaminated by a
  neighbor's GM
 crops, whose seeds or pollen have blown over onto your land. Then  imagine
 Monsanto coming in and trying to SUE you for violating the patent  they've
 placed on
 those seeds!

 That is outrageous!

 Only a desperately evil company like Monsanto would have the  unbridled
 greed
 to pull something like that. What is most shocking, though, is  that
 Monsanto'
 s practice of targeting farmers for patent infringement is common,  and
 well
 planned out.

 It is not only the farmers whose crops have been contaminated  by
 Monsanto's
 GM seeds that are being investigated, but also farmers accused of  saving
 Monsanto's patented seeds to use the next year. Never mind that this is
  the way
 farmers have operated for generations; saving seeds from one year to the
  next
 makes sense financially and environmentally.

 Of course Monsanto saw it as a cut in their profits, so they  began to
 patent
 their seeds.

 Since the 1980s, Monsanto has become the world leader in  genetic
 modification of seeds and has won 674 biotechnology patents, more than  any
 other
 company.

 But Monsanto is not only patenting their own GMO seeds. They  have also
 succeeded in slapping patents on a huge number of crop seeds,  patenting
 life forms
 for the first time -- without a vote of the people or  Congress.

 Farmers who buy Monsanto's Roundup Ready seeds are required to  sign an
 agreement promising not to save the seeds or sell them to other farmers
  (What if
 the farmer doesn't sign one? Not to worry, Monsanto has actually  admitted
 to
 forging farmers' signatures on technology agreements if they didn't  have
 one
 on file).

 The end result of the agreements? Farmers must buy new seeds  every year,
 and
 they must buy them from Monsanto.

 Monsanto's Seed Police

 How would Monsanto know if farmers were reusing their seeds?  They've hired
 an army of private investigators and agents to do just that. It's
  difficult to
 say exactly how extensive this army of seed police actually is  today,
 but
 as of 2005 Monsanto had 75 employees and a $10 million budget solely  to
 investigate and prosecute farmers for patent infringement.

 Let's just say, for argument's sake, you were inclined to  agree with
 Monsanto about their right to monitor their seeds. They have, after  all,
 invested
 millions of dollars into these (typically toxic) genetically  modified
 seeds,
 and they need to recover some of that money. Well, can anyone  rationally
 say
 that a farmer is responsible for patent infringement if a seed  blows onto
 his
 property?

 Of course not. And this is where the bill AB 541 will protect  California's
 farmers from this type of harassment.

 I don't believe for one second, though, that Monsanto has any
  justification
 in any of these matters. They are slowly working to take control  of the
 entire food supply, and this is not an exaggeration.

 Monsanto is considering using what's known as terminator  technology on a
 wide-scale basis. These are seeds that have been genetically  modified to 
 self-destruct. In other words, the seeds (and the forthcoming  crops) are
 sterile,
 which means farmers must buy them again 

Re: [Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

2008-09-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tom, welcome

Why do some companies (like Monsanto) have such disregard for their
reputation?

Oh, I don't think they do. They do tend to have more message 
management problems than some (but not others), but they manage it 
quite well, or rather quite effectively.

 From a previous message:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/may/14/greenpolitics.digitalmedia
The fake persuaders
Corporations are inventing people to rubbish their opponents on the internet

There's more about it in the archives. This is just the tip of the
iceberg with this kind of disinfo campaign. It even has a name -
viral marketing they call it:

An article on its [Bivings] website, entitled Viral Marketing: How
to Infect the World [by Andrew Dimock, head of Bivings' online
marketing and promotions division], warns that 'there are some
campaigns where it would be undesirable or even disastrous to let the
audience know that your organisation is directly involved... it
simply is not an intelligent PR move. In cases such as this, it is
important to first listen to what is being said online... Once you
are plugged into this world, it is possible to make postings to these
outlets that present your position as an uninvolved third party...
Perhaps the greatest advantage of viral marketing is that your
message is placed into a context where it is more likely to be
considered seriously.'

On the other hand, if their claims that only biotech can feed a 
starving world and so on carry any weight at all (they don't), if 
their product can stand on its own merits in the marketplace, then 
why would they need to stoop to such totally slimy and ethics-free 
tactics as those of the Bivings Group, just for starters?

It's so clear that greed drives this corporation, what benefits
can come from this?

Isn't it a legal requirement that corporations make the bottom-line 
their priority?

Walmart acts this way too, and I don't see the benefits?

No, other than for Walmart.

Small-scale capitalism works out fine, but as scale increases the 
departure from real capitalism becomes more pronounced---profits are 
privatized, but costs are socialized. The attendant repair and 
maintenance are left to succeeding generations if possible, if not, 
to present low and middle income taxpayers. (Tvo)

It's almost like one day they just stopped caring.

Caring? Why/how would a corporation care? They spend a lot of money 
persuading us all that they're persons and citizens and so on 
(corporations have more human rights than you do), but that's not how 
they're built to function. They care when it costs less than not 
caring.

This is worth a read:
http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg65027.html
Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and 
corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic
Mon, 07 Aug 2006

Also:
http://journeytoforever.org/fyi_previous5.html#creed
Feel No Remorse -- The Corporate Creed

I suspect it will be the
downfall of these companies.

But then they get bailed out eh? If they've been paying their dues. 
But I agree with you, it's just all too in-your-face these days, 
people are getting unmesmerised by the million, and I guess when 
enough of them get cross enough things will change, one way or 
another. It's already happening.

See How to kill a mammoth, from Roberto Verzola, secretary-general 
of the Philippine Greens:
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30628.html
[biofuel] Mammoth corporations

More on the California legislation:
http://www.calgefree.org/speakout.html
Monsanto's intimidation tactics no longer legal

Best

Keith


Tom Epp

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Some Farmers Now Protected Against  Monsanto Lawsuits
  _
 
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/27/some-farmers-no
  w-protected-against-monsanto-lawsuits.aspx?source=nl_
  (
   
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/27/some-farmers-now-protected-against-mons
   anto-lawsuits.aspx?source=nl)

  Farmers with crops that become contaminated by patented  genetically
  engineered (GE) seeds or pollen have been the target of harassing  lawsuits
  brought by
  biotech patent holders, especially Monsanto.

  But a landmark piece of legislation protecting California's  farmers from
   crippling lawsuits has passed through both legislative houses.

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Re: [Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

2008-09-29 Thread Dawie Coetzee
The role of the villain can work for corporations as well as against them. If 
they can be sure they will ALWAYS be regarded as the villain they can predict 
the reaction to their actions with a lot of confidence. I believe this is of 
central strategic importance to them when it comes to manipulating government. 
It ought to be clear by now that large corporations thrive in a 
highly-regulated environment. That environment is most certain when it has 
popular support, which is best achieved by the illusion that measures are about 
limiting corporate abuse when they are in fact about maintaining corporate 
privilege. Corporations build nests for themselves thus, provoking the 
conditions they want by taking a calculatedly vociferous stance AGAINST those 
conditions.
 
-Dawie



- Original Message 
From: Tom Epp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, 29 September, 2008 19:49:42
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

Why do some companies (like Monsanto) have such disregard for their
reputation? It's so clear that greed drives this corporation, what benefits
can come from this? Walmart acts this way too, and I don't see the benefits?
It's almost like one day they just stopped caring. I suspect it will be the
downfall of these companies.
Tom Epp

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some Farmers Now Protected Against  Monsanto Lawsuits
 _
 http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/27/some-farmers-no
 w-protected-against-monsanto-lawsuits.aspx?source=nl_
 (
 http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/27/some-farmers-now-protected-against-mons
 anto-lawsuits.aspx?source=nl)

 Farmers with crops that become contaminated by patented  genetically
 engineered (GE) seeds or pollen have been the target of harassing  lawsuits
 brought by
 biotech patent holders, especially Monsanto.

 But a landmark piece of legislation protecting California's  farmers from
 crippling lawsuits has passed through both legislative houses.

 AB 541 enacts protections against lawsuits brought against  California
 farmers who have not been able to prevent the inevitable drift of GE
  pollen or seed
 onto their land. The bill also establishes a mandatory crop  sampling
 protocol to prevent biotech companies investigating alleged violations
  from sampling
 crops without the explicit permission of the farmers who own the  land.

 Sources: Organic Consumers Association August 31,  2008
                _
 http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14436.cfm_
 (http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14436.cfm)

 Dr. Mercola's Comments:

 Imagine being a farmer who is trying to grow organic,  non-genetically
 modified crops. Then imagine those crops being contaminated by a
  neighbor's GM
 crops, whose seeds or pollen have blown over onto your land. Then  imagine
 Monsanto coming in and trying to SUE you for violating the patent  they've
 placed on
 those seeds!

 That is outrageous!

 Only a desperately evil company like Monsanto would have the  unbridled
 greed
 to pull something like that. What is most shocking, though, is  that
 Monsanto'
 s practice of targeting farmers for patent infringement is common,  and
 well
 planned out.

 It is not only the farmers whose crops have been contaminated  by
 Monsanto's
 GM seeds that are being investigated, but also farmers accused of  saving
 Monsanto's patented seeds to use the next year. Never mind that this is
  the way
 farmers have operated for generations; saving seeds from one year to the
  next
 makes sense financially and environmentally.

 Of course Monsanto saw it as a cut in their profits, so they  began to
 patent
 their seeds.

 Since the 1980s, Monsanto has become the world leader in  genetic
 modification of seeds and has won 674 biotechnology patents, more than  any
 other
 company.

 But Monsanto is not only patenting their own GMO seeds. They  have also
 succeeded in slapping patents on a huge number of crop seeds,  patenting
 life forms
 for the first time -- without a vote of the people or  Congress.

 Farmers who buy Monsanto's Roundup Ready seeds are required to  sign an
 agreement promising not to save the seeds or sell them to other farmers
  (What if
 the farmer doesn't sign one? Not to worry, Monsanto has actually  admitted
 to
 forging farmers' signatures on technology agreements if they didn't  have
 one
 on file).

 The end result of the agreements? Farmers must buy new seeds  every year,
 and
 they must buy them from Monsanto.

 Monsanto's Seed Police

 How would Monsanto know if farmers were reusing their seeds?  They've hired
 an army of private investigators and agents to do just that. It's
  difficult to
 say exactly how extensive this army of seed police actually is  today,
 but
 as of 2005 Monsanto had 75 employees and a $10 million budget solely  to
 investigate and prosecute farmers for patent

[Biofuel] Some Farmers Now Protected Against Monsanto Lawsuits

2008-09-27 Thread SurpriseShan2
Some Farmers Now Protected Against  Monsanto Lawsuits 
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Farmers with crops that become contaminated by patented  genetically 
engineered (GE) seeds or pollen have been the target of harassing  lawsuits 
brought by 
biotech patent holders, especially Monsanto. 
 
But a landmark piece of legislation protecting California's  farmers from 
crippling lawsuits has passed through both legislative houses. 
 
AB 541 enacts protections against lawsuits brought against  California 
farmers who have not been able to prevent the inevitable drift of GE  pollen or 
seed 
onto their land. The bill also establishes a mandatory crop  sampling 
protocol to prevent biotech companies investigating alleged violations  from 
sampling 
crops without the explicit permission of the farmers who own the  land. 
 
Sources: Organic Consumers Association August 31,  2008
 _http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14436.cfm_ 
(http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14436.cfm) 
 
Dr. Mercola's Comments: 
 
Imagine being a farmer who is trying to grow organic,  non-genetically 
modified crops. Then imagine those crops being contaminated by a  neighbor’s GM 
crops, whose seeds or pollen have blown over onto your land. Then  imagine 
Monsanto coming in and trying to SUE you for violating the patent  they’ve 
placed on 
those seeds! 
 
That is outrageous! 
 
Only a desperately evil company like Monsanto would have the  unbridled greed 
to pull something like that. What is most shocking, though, is  that Monsanto’
s practice of targeting farmers for patent infringement is common,  and well 
planned out. 
 
It is not only the farmers whose crops have been contaminated  by Monsanto’s 
GM seeds that are being investigated, but also farmers accused of  saving 
Monsanto’s patented seeds to use the next year. Never mind that this is  the 
way 
farmers have operated for generations; saving seeds from one year to the  next 
makes sense financially and environmentally. 
 
Of course Monsanto saw it as a cut in their profits, so they  began to patent 
their seeds. 
 
Since the 1980s, Monsanto has become the world leader in  genetic 
modification of seeds and has won 674 biotechnology patents, more than  any 
other 
company. 
 
But Monsanto is not only patenting their own GMO seeds. They  have also 
succeeded in slapping patents on a huge number of crop seeds,  patenting life 
forms 
for the first time -- without a vote of the people or  Congress. 
 
Farmers who buy Monsanto’s Roundup Ready seeds are required to  sign an 
agreement promising not to save the seeds or sell them to other farmers  (What 
if 
the farmer doesn’t sign one? Not to worry, Monsanto has actually  admitted to 
forging farmers’ signatures on technology agreements if they didn’t  have one 
on file). 
 
The end result of the agreements? Farmers must buy new seeds  every year, and 
they must buy them from Monsanto. 
 
Monsanto’s Seed Police 
 
How would Monsanto know if farmers were reusing their seeds?  They’ve hired 
an army of private investigators and agents to do just that. It’s  difficult to 
say exactly how extensive this army of “seed police” actually is  today, but 
as of 2005 Monsanto had 75 employees and a $10 million budget solely  to 
investigate and prosecute farmers for patent infringement. 
 
Let’s just say, for argument’s sake, you were inclined to  agree with 
Monsanto about their right to monitor their seeds. They have, after  all, 
invested 
millions of dollars into these (typically toxic) genetically  modified seeds, 
and they need to recover some of that money. Well, can anyone  rationally say 
that a farmer is responsible for patent infringement if a seed  blows onto his 
property? 
 
Of course not. And this is where the bill AB 541 will protect  California’s 
farmers from this type of harassment. 
 
I don’t believe for one second, though, that Monsanto has any  justification 
in any of these matters. They are slowly working to take control  of the 
entire food supply, and this is not an exaggeration. 
 
Monsanto is considering using what’s known as terminator  technology on a 
wide-scale basis. These are seeds that have been genetically  modified to “
self-destruct.” In other words, the seeds (and the forthcoming  crops) are 
sterile, 
which means farmers must buy them again each year. 
 
This solves their problem of needing “seed police,” but they  are obviously 
looking the other way when it comes to the implications that  terminator seeds 
could have on the world’s food supply: the traits from  genetically 
engineered crops can get passed on to other crops. Once the  terminator seeds 
are 
released into a region, the trait of seed sterility could  be passed to