Re: [biofuel] New to the group
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I recently "joined" the group. I have been making biodiesel for about > one year, have some formal training in chemistry and some automotive > mechanical experience as a "shadetree mechanic." > > Currently I am running a little experiment using bypass filtration and > synthetic oil (using professional oil analysis) in my biodiesel powered > vehicles. I am not changing the crankcase oil until it does not meet > specs. This is important because synthetic oil improves fuel economy and > takes a lot of used motor oil out of the waste stream. Potentially > synthetic oil could last over 100,000 miles but I am unaware of any > studies on vehicles running neat biodiesel. This topic may have been > covered previously so I will end..here. We have talked about this before, but I don't think anyone has posted any hard data. (Is there any actual data out there?) Please tell us more about your experiment. What process are you using for your biodiesel? What kind of engine is it being used in? How long had the engine been operating before you began the experiment, and what kind of condition was it in when you began checking the quality of your oil? This is a topic of interest to many people on the list. Welcome aboard! robert luis rabello "The Edge of Justice" Adventure for Your Mind http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] New to the group
Hello, I recently "joined" the group. I have been making biodiesel for about one year, have some formal training in chemistry and some automotive mechanical experience as a "shadetree mechanic." Currently I am running a little experiment using bypass filtration and synthetic oil (using professional oil analysis) in my biodiesel powered vehicles. I am not changing the crankcase oil until it does not meet specs. This is important because synthetic oil improves fuel economy and takes a lot of used motor oil out of the waste stream. Potentially synthetic oil could last over 100,000 miles but I am unaware of any studies on vehicles running neat biodiesel. This topic may have been covered previously so I will end..here. Looking forward to being involved with the group. Lurch Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to the group
John Woolsey wrote: >Think about it. Electric cars have the same problem as hydrogen cars. There is >no free >supply of electricity. The only way to produce relatively polution >free vehicles would be >to have all electrical power produced by nuclear >energy. Right now any increase in >electrical energy consumption is generally >produced by coal. Net CO2 output from coal >after inefficiency of batteries >and the like are taken into account is far higher than gas >vehicles. >As my air modeling friend told me. Electric vehicles are just a moving the >smoke plume >issue. >- bfn - JAW You seem to imply that CO2 is a pollutant, but it is not classified as such (at least in the U.S.), but rather as a greenhouse gas. (If it were, then you and I and all other human beings would be classified as gross polluters and be sent directly to the scrapyard, since we exhale CO2.) About five years ago I did read that emissions for Honda cars were approaching emissions levels of fossil fueled power plants and so perhaps by now your claim may be at least close to correct, at least for certain current cars. I do think that the characterization of electric vehicles as "zero emission vehicles" is, at best, highly misleading. I have owned an electric vehicle for eight years but am about to sell it since my SVO powered VW Jetta TDI is so far superior in performance and range, not to mention that it runs on renewable fuel. Now, if anyone would like to join in on the design of a diesel hybrid electric vehicle that would run on SVO or Biodiesel, possibly for use in third world countries, then I am all ears. (I have already designed and built the diesel engine powered SVO/Biodiesel generator for such a vehicle.) Bruce Colley, Sustainable Energy Project http://www.sustainableenergyproject.org 1997 VW Jetta running on SVO. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to the group
John, You do not seems to know very much about hydrogen, do you? http://energysavingnow.com/hydrogen/ Electric cars, with the hybrid cars as a variant of them, are much more feasible. Hakan At 23:41 18/06/2004, you wrote: >Think about it. Electric cars have the same problem as hydrogen cars. >There is no free supply of electricity. The only way to produce relatively >polution free vehicles would be to have all electrical power produced by >nuclear energy. Right now any increase in electrical energy consumption is >generally produced by coal. Net CO2 output from coal after inefficiency of >batteries and the like are taken into account is far higher than gas vehicles. > >As my air modeling friend told me. Electric vehicles are just a moving the >smoke plume issue. > > - bfn - JAW > >-- Original Message -- >From: Martin Klingensmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 17:33:14 -0400 > > >John Woolsey wrote: > > > >>Things that have been irritating me: > >>Electric cars produce more polution and CO2 than gas cars. Remember > >>marginal electricity is produced by Coal in NA. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >You said it, now prove it. > >-- > >Martin Klingensmith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to the group
John Woolsey wrote: >Think about it. Electric cars have the same problem as hydrogen cars. There is >no free supply of electricity. The only way to produce relatively polution >free vehicles would be to have all electrical power produced by nuclear >energy. Right now any increase in electrical energy consumption is generally >produced by coal. Net CO2 output from coal after inefficiency of batteries and >the like are taken into account is far higher than gas vehicles. > >As my air modeling friend told me. Electric vehicles are just a moving the >smoke plume issue. > >- bfn - JAW > > > http://www.electroauto.com/info/pollmyth.shtml http://www.solardome.com/solardome51.html Please provide real sources such as those if you wish to make a sweeping comment in the future. Batteries are not inefficient compared to internal combustion engines, and large coal fired burners are actually much more efficient than the typical hydrocarbon to road custody chain. -- Martin Klingensmith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to the group
Think about it. Electric cars have the same problem as hydrogen cars. There is no free supply of electricity. The only way to produce relatively polution free vehicles would be to have all electrical power produced by nuclear energy. Right now any increase in electrical energy consumption is generally produced by coal. Net CO2 output from coal after inefficiency of batteries and the like are taken into account is far higher than gas vehicles. As my air modeling friend told me. Electric vehicles are just a moving the smoke plume issue. - bfn - JAW -- Original Message -- From: Martin Klingensmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 17:33:14 -0400 >John Woolsey wrote: > >>Things that have been irritating me: >>Electric cars produce more polution and CO2 than gas cars. Remember >>marginal electricity is produced by Coal in NA. >> >> >> >> >You said it, now prove it. >-- >Martin Klingensmith > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuels list archives: >http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to the group
John Woolsey wrote: >Things that have been irritating me: >Electric cars produce more polution and CO2 than gas cars. Remember >marginal electricity is produced by Coal in NA. > > > > You said it, now prove it. -- Martin Klingensmith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to the group
I find this things very hard to believe. My father was telling me about how in the 70s someone put together a book that said we where going to run out of nickel copper and various other metals. The book quoted mostly dates in the 80s. It is now 2004 and we are recycling some stuff, but we are not going to run out anytime soon. David Szuki in Canada has been predicting complete environmental collapse since the 80s. Like some cult he keeps moving the date out when it becomes obvious that it isn't going to happen. Certainly some of these things are risks, but there is not solid evidence that any of them are going to happen. In fact as we speak algae has started growing better in the oceans and is partially reversing the greenhouse affect. Stop preaching doom and gloom. There is no proof it is going to happen. Just as there is little proof it isn't. So far the evidence seems to support life is a lot less fragile than we thought. It is certainly more stable than David Szuki was intimating. Now back to reality. We need to find recyclable ways to replace parts of our society that are throw away. Possibly the way we get there is by waiting until the cost of the recyclable product drops below the cost of the throw away product but I would like to see it happen sooner primarily but considering throw away a sin tax. And taxing it appropriately. Things that have been irritating me: Electric cars produce more polution and CO2 than gas cars. Remember marginal electricity is produced by Coal in NA. The Green party in Can has their heart in the right place but can't seem to do basic scientific research so they promote electric cars. The Green party in Can claims they believe in science and financial responsibility and they push unscientifically proven remedies on people. Why the vast majority of people who believe in the environment are so left wing no one is willing to take them seriously. For that matter most right wing governments don't seem to get the environment. Why most left wing governments don't understand you need a strong business economy to pay for all of the stuff to help out the little guy and the environment. Why most right wing governments don't understand the only thing public corporations want is money. They don't EVER care about anything else. Ok I admit I am in a bad mood and am done now. - bfn - JAW Ken Provost wrote: > on 6/15/04 7:48 AM, Dan Fitzpatrick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>I'm very interested to learn how far we could go towards >>completely replacing fossil-fuels without sacrificing lifestyle. > > > > Probly not very far. Check out "The Party's Over", Richard Heinberg. > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail > /-/0865714827103-4126562-7176623?v=glance > > I just bought 10 copies to give away. Not the definitive work > by any means, but everything has been brought together nicely > in one place, including a lot of history I never knew. He and > others make the case that our "lifestyle" is a petroleum-fed > aberration, and likely a good thing to sacrifice (or jettison) > as soon as possible, surely including much misery in the process. > > -K > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to the group
on 6/15/04 7:48 AM, Dan Fitzpatrick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm very interested to learn how far we could go towards > completely replacing fossil-fuels without sacrificing lifestyle. Probly not very far. Check out "The Party's Over", Richard Heinberg. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail /-/0865714827103-4126562-7176623?v=glance I just bought 10 copies to give away. Not the definitive work by any means, but everything has been brought together nicely in one place, including a lot of history I never knew. He and others make the case that our "lifestyle" is a petroleum-fed aberration, and likely a good thing to sacrifice (or jettison) as soon as possible, surely including much misery in the process. -K Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] New to the group
Howdy folks, I'm new to the group and relatively new to the concept of biofuels. From what I've read so far it looks like a very exciting field with a lot of potential to do a lot of good things in terms of providing a renewable and environmentally friendly alternative to fossil fuels. I hope that as I learn more and more that promise and hope continues to grow. Does anybody know of any good resources to learn about production capacities and the like for biodiesel base oils? I'm very interested to learn how far we could go towards completely replacing fossil-fuels without sacrificing lifestyle. Also, if anyone can point me to some good numbers for fuel yields from base oils and other such data, I would be very grateful. Thanks! Dan Fitzpatrick The information contained in this message is proprietary of Amdocs, protected from disclosure, and may be privileged. The information is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s) of the message. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, use, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to the group!!!!!
Ok I will try soon.
Best Regards
--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Can you tell me the "formula" do do it??
>
> Start here:
> "Where do I start?"
>
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start
>
> Best wishes
>
> Keith
>
>
> >Best Regards
> >Joo Martins
> >www.martinsportscar.com
> >
> >--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Hello Joao
> > >
> > > >Thank you Keith for all your great feedback,
> and
> > > nice
> > > >to know that you like my project.
> > > >
> > > >I check the links but I think that will be
> better
> > > make
> > > >some tests in other caind of cars and not on
> mine
> > > ;),
> > >
> > > You don't need to make any tests.
> > >
> > > >I see some modifications needed to do
> > >
> > > Nor any modifications. Biodiesel is just great
> for
> > > any diesel motor.
> > > Maybe you're talking about Straight Vegetable
> Oil?
> > > ("Pure Plant Oil",
> > > PPO, in Europe.) That's a different matter, that
> > > does need
> > > modifications, but biodiesel doesn't. Chuck it
> in
> > > and go, your motor
> > > will smile at you.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > >
> > > >and I believe
> > > >that I will not do any caind of modifications
> on my
> > > >car because of that.
> > > >
> > > >I have to buy a old car then make some tests ;)
> > > >
> > > >Best Regards
> > > >Joìo martins
> > > >www.martinsportscar.com
> > > >
> > > >--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi Joìo, and welcome
> > > > >
> > > > > >Hi there,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm new on this group, and I'd like to
> share
> > > all
> > > > > the kinds of
> > > > > >experiences with all the members.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm from Portugal Europe, and at the moment
> I'm
> > > > > building a kit car,
> > > > > >but I'd like to make some biodiesel to my
> other
> > > > > car.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I have one car with the engine from VW
> 1,9TDI
> > > with
> > > > > 110HP, and I'd
> > > > > >like to know if we can use this fuel in any
> > > diesel
> > > > > car in Special in
> > > > > >mine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'd like to know if anyone can give me good
> > > links
> > > > > explaning How to
> > > > > >make our onw biodiesel with the oil food.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thank you all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Best Regards
> > > > > >Joìo Martins
> > > > > >www.martinsportscar.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice project.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can use biodiesel in any diesel motor.
> The
> > > best
> > > > > place to learn
> > > > > how to make biodiesel is right here. See the
> > > links
> > > > > at the end of each
> > > > > message you receive:
> > > > >
> > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
> > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Biofuels list archives:
> > > > > http://archive.nnytech.net/
> > > > >
> > > > > The first is acknowledged as the premier
> source
> > > of
> > > > > small-scale
> > > > > biofuels information on the Web. The second
> is a
> > > > > treasure house of
> > > > > information on all aspects of biofuels,
> > > especially
> > > > > biodiesel - it
> > > > > contains 35,000 messages over the last four
> > > years,
> > > > > many of them from
> > > > > leaders in the field worldwide.
> > > > >
> > > > > For biodiesel, see:
> > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html
> > > > > Biodiesel: Journey to Forever
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes
> > > > >
> > > > > Keith
>
>
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Re: [biofuel] New to the group!!!!!
>Can you tell me the "formula" do do it??
Start here:
"Where do I start?"
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start
Best wishes
Keith
>Best Regards
>João Martins
>www.martinsportscar.com
>
>--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello Joao
> >
> > >Thank you Keith for all your great feedback, and
> > nice
> > >to know that you like my project.
> > >
> > >I check the links but I think that will be better
> > make
> > >some tests in other caind of cars and not on mine
> > ;),
> >
> > You don't need to make any tests.
> >
> > >I see some modifications needed to do
> >
> > Nor any modifications. Biodiesel is just great for
> > any diesel motor.
> > Maybe you're talking about Straight Vegetable Oil?
> > ("Pure Plant Oil",
> > PPO, in Europe.) That's a different matter, that
> > does need
> > modifications, but biodiesel doesn't. Chuck it in
> > and go, your motor
> > will smile at you.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
> > >and I believe
> > >that I will not do any caind of modifications on my
> > >car because of that.
> > >
> > >I have to buy a old car then make some tests ;)
> > >
> > >Best Regards
> > >Joo martins
> > >www.martinsportscar.com
> > >
> > >--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > Hi Joo, and welcome
> > > >
> > > > >Hi there,
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm new on this group, and I'd like to share
> > all
> > > > the kinds of
> > > > >experiences with all the members.
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm from Portugal Europe, and at the moment I'm
> > > > building a kit car,
> > > > >but I'd like to make some biodiesel to my other
> > > > car.
> > > > >
> > > > >I have one car with the engine from VW 1,9TDI
> > with
> > > > 110HP, and I'd
> > > > >like to know if we can use this fuel in any
> > diesel
> > > > car in Special in
> > > > >mine.
> > > > >
> > > > >I'd like to know if anyone can give me good
> > links
> > > > explaning How to
> > > > >make our onw biodiesel with the oil food.
> > > > >
> > > > >Thank you all.
> > > > >
> > > > >Best Regards
> > > > >Joo Martins
> > > > >www.martinsportscar.com
> > > >
> > > > Nice project.
> > > >
> > > > You can use biodiesel in any diesel motor. The
> > best
> > > > place to learn
> > > > how to make biodiesel is right here. See the
> > links
> > > > at the end of each
> > > > message you receive:
> > > >
> > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
> > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
> > > >
> > > > Biofuels list archives:
> > > > http://archive.nnytech.net/
> > > >
> > > > The first is acknowledged as the premier source
> > of
> > > > small-scale
> > > > biofuels information on the Web. The second is a
> > > > treasure house of
> > > > information on all aspects of biofuels,
> > especially
> > > > biodiesel - it
> > > > contains 35,000 messages over the last four
> > years,
> > > > many of them from
> > > > leaders in the field worldwide.
> > > >
> > > > For biodiesel, see:
> > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html
> > > > Biodiesel: Journey to Forever
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes
> > > >
> > > > Keith
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Re: [biofuel] New to the group!!!!!
Can you tell me the "formula" do do it??
Best Regards
João Martins
www.martinsportscar.com
--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Joao
>
> >Thank you Keith for all your great feedback, and
> nice
> >to know that you like my project.
> >
> >I check the links but I think that will be better
> make
> >some tests in other caind of cars and not on mine
> ;),
>
> You don't need to make any tests.
>
> >I see some modifications needed to do
>
> Nor any modifications. Biodiesel is just great for
> any diesel motor.
> Maybe you're talking about Straight Vegetable Oil?
> ("Pure Plant Oil",
> PPO, in Europe.) That's a different matter, that
> does need
> modifications, but biodiesel doesn't. Chuck it in
> and go, your motor
> will smile at you.
>
> Regards
>
> Keith
>
>
> >and I believe
> >that I will not do any caind of modifications on my
> >car because of that.
> >
> >I have to buy a old car then make some tests ;)
> >
> >Best Regards
> >Joo martins
> >www.martinsportscar.com
> >
> >--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Hi Joo, and welcome
> > >
> > > >Hi there,
> > > >
> > > >I'm new on this group, and I'd like to share
> all
> > > the kinds of
> > > >experiences with all the members.
> > > >
> > > >I'm from Portugal Europe, and at the moment I'm
> > > building a kit car,
> > > >but I'd like to make some biodiesel to my other
> > > car.
> > > >
> > > >I have one car with the engine from VW 1,9TDI
> with
> > > 110HP, and I'd
> > > >like to know if we can use this fuel in any
> diesel
> > > car in Special in
> > > >mine.
> > > >
> > > >I'd like to know if anyone can give me good
> links
> > > explaning How to
> > > >make our onw biodiesel with the oil food.
> > > >
> > > >Thank you all.
> > > >
> > > >Best Regards
> > > >Joo Martins
> > > >www.martinsportscar.com
> > >
> > > Nice project.
> > >
> > > You can use biodiesel in any diesel motor. The
> best
> > > place to learn
> > > how to make biodiesel is right here. See the
> links
> > > at the end of each
> > > message you receive:
> > >
> > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
> > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
> > >
> > > Biofuels list archives:
> > > http://archive.nnytech.net/
> > >
> > > The first is acknowledged as the premier source
> of
> > > small-scale
> > > biofuels information on the Web. The second is a
> > > treasure house of
> > > information on all aspects of biofuels,
> especially
> > > biodiesel - it
> > > contains 35,000 messages over the last four
> years,
> > > many of them from
> > > leaders in the field worldwide.
> > >
> > > For biodiesel, see:
> > > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html
> > > Biodiesel: Journey to Forever
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > >
> > > Keith
>
>
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Re: [biofuel] New to the group!!!!!
Hello Joao
>Thank you Keith for all your great feedback, and nice
>to know that you like my project.
>
>I check the links but I think that will be better make
>some tests in other caind of cars and not on mine ;),
You don't need to make any tests.
>I see some modifications needed to do
Nor any modifications. Biodiesel is just great for any diesel motor.
Maybe you're talking about Straight Vegetable Oil? ("Pure Plant Oil",
PPO, in Europe.) That's a different matter, that does need
modifications, but biodiesel doesn't. Chuck it in and go, your motor
will smile at you.
Regards
Keith
>and I believe
>that I will not do any caind of modifications on my
>car because of that.
>
>I have to buy a old car then make some tests ;)
>
>Best Regards
>João martins
>www.martinsportscar.com
>
>--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi João, and welcome
> >
> > >Hi there,
> > >
> > >I'm new on this group, and I'd like to share all
> > the kinds of
> > >experiences with all the members.
> > >
> > >I'm from Portugal Europe, and at the moment I'm
> > building a kit car,
> > >but I'd like to make some biodiesel to my other
> > car.
> > >
> > >I have one car with the engine from VW 1,9TDI with
> > 110HP, and I'd
> > >like to know if we can use this fuel in any diesel
> > car in Special in
> > >mine.
> > >
> > >I'd like to know if anyone can give me good links
> > explaning How to
> > >make our onw biodiesel with the oil food.
> > >
> > >Thank you all.
> > >
> > >Best Regards
> > >João Martins
> > >www.martinsportscar.com
> >
> > Nice project.
> >
> > You can use biodiesel in any diesel motor. The best
> > place to learn
> > how to make biodiesel is right here. See the links
> > at the end of each
> > message you receive:
> >
> > Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
> > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
> >
> > Biofuels list archives:
> > http://archive.nnytech.net/
> >
> > The first is acknowledged as the premier source of
> > small-scale
> > biofuels information on the Web. The second is a
> > treasure house of
> > information on all aspects of biofuels, especially
> > biodiesel - it
> > contains 35,000 messages over the last four years,
> > many of them from
> > leaders in the field worldwide.
> >
> > For biodiesel, see:
> > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html
> > Biodiesel: Journey to Forever
> >
> >
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Keith
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Re: [biofuel] New to the group!!!!!
Thank you Keith for all your great feedback, and nice to know that you like my project. I check the links but I think that will be better make some tests in other caind of cars and not on mine ;), I see some modifications needed to do and I believe that I will not do any caind of modifications on my car because of that. I have to buy a old car then make some tests ;) Best Regards João martins www.martinsportscar.com --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi João, and welcome > > >Hi there, > > > >I'm new on this group, and I'd like to share all > the kinds of > >experiences with all the members. > > > >I'm from Portugal Europe, and at the moment I'm > building a kit car, > >but I'd like to make some biodiesel to my other > car. > > > >I have one car with the engine from VW 1,9TDI with > 110HP, and I'd > >like to know if we can use this fuel in any diesel > car in Special in > >mine. > > > >I'd like to know if anyone can give me good links > explaning How to > >make our onw biodiesel with the oil food. > > > >Thank you all. > > > >Best Regards > >João Martins > >www.martinsportscar.com > > Nice project. > > You can use biodiesel in any diesel motor. The best > place to learn > how to make biodiesel is right here. See the links > at the end of each > message you receive: > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > The first is acknowledged as the premier source of > small-scale > biofuels information on the Web. The second is a > treasure house of > information on all aspects of biofuels, especially > biodiesel - it > contains 35,000 messages over the last four years, > many of them from > leaders in the field worldwide. > > For biodiesel, see: > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html > Biodiesel: Journey to Forever > > > > Best wishes > > Keith > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to the group!!!!!
Hi Joo, and welcome >Hi there, > >I'm new on this group, and I'd like to share all the kinds of >experiences with all the members. > >I'm from Portugal Europe, and at the moment I'm building a kit car, >but I'd like to make some biodiesel to my other car. > >I have one car with the engine from VW 1,9TDI with 110HP, and I'd >like to know if we can use this fuel in any diesel car in Special in >mine. > >I'd like to know if anyone can give me good links explaning How to >make our onw biodiesel with the oil food. > >Thank you all. > >Best Regards >Joo Martins >www.martinsportscar.com Nice project. You can use biodiesel in any diesel motor. The best place to learn how to make biodiesel is right here. See the links at the end of each message you receive: Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ The first is acknowledged as the premier source of small-scale biofuels information on the Web. The second is a treasure house of information on all aspects of biofuels, especially biodiesel - it contains 35,000 messages over the last four years, many of them from leaders in the field worldwide. For biodiesel, see: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html Biodiesel: Journey to Forever Best wishes Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to the group!!!!!
Matthew Wisz wrote: >EPA.GOV has links to how to make your own biodiesel fuels. Then why not provide the links? It's rather a large site to go wandering about on. >Also check out the following sites for other information, more technical > >truthabouttrade.org What information about biodiesel is to be found at this site? What reliable information of any type is to be found at this site? This is just another industry front-group, part of the so-called "Wise Use" so-called movement, you'll only find spin there, not information. Why are you promoting this toxic nonsense here? Keith Addison Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/ > - Original Message - > From: joao > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:28 PM > Subject: [biofuel] New to the group! > > > Hi there, > > I'm new on this group, and I'd like to share all the kinds of > experiences with all the members. > > I'm from Portugal Europe, and at the moment I'm building a kit car, > but I'd like to make some biodiesel to my other car. > > I have one car with the engine from VW 1,9TDI with 110HP, and I'd > like to know if we can use this fuel in any diesel car in Special in > mine. > > I'd like to know if anyone can give me good links explaning How to > make our onw biodiesel with the oil food. > > Thank you all. > > Best Regards > Joo Martins > www.martinsportscar.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to the group!!!!!
EPA.GOV has links to how to make your own biodiesel fuels. Also check out the following sites for other information, more technical truthabouttrade.org - Original Message - From: joao To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:28 PM Subject: [biofuel] New to the group! Hi there, I'm new on this group, and I'd like to share all the kinds of experiences with all the members. I'm from Portugal Europe, and at the moment I'm building a kit car, but I'd like to make some biodiesel to my other car. I have one car with the engine from VW 1,9TDI with 110HP, and I'd like to know if we can use this fuel in any diesel car in Special in mine. I'd like to know if anyone can give me good links explaning How to make our onw biodiesel with the oil food. Thank you all. Best Regards Joo Martins www.martinsportscar.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] New to the group!!!!!
Hi there, I'm new on this group, and I'd like to share all the kinds of experiences with all the members. I'm from Portugal Europe, and at the moment I'm building a kit car, but I'd like to make some biodiesel to my other car. I have one car with the engine from VW 1,9TDI with 110HP, and I'd like to know if we can use this fuel in any diesel car in Special in mine. I'd like to know if anyone can give me good links explaning How to make our onw biodiesel with the oil food. Thank you all. Best Regards Joo Martins www.martinsportscar.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
