Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
Hmm...as a one time Two Truck driver I found the 7.3 w/ a stick unbeatable. The 6.2's didn't seem to have as much grunt. YMMV Wireless Data Transfer wrote: The 6.9L HP rating is near to the one of the 302 (5.0L), but the TORQUE figure is huge! The 5.0-litre was rated 185-205 hp, the 6.9 litre diesel V8 was rated at 170hp , with torque 330-390 pounds-feet,and the 7.3-litre diesel V8 was rated 185-210 hp., with torque 360-425 pounds-feet.What suffers here are the universal joints! :-) So, replacing the gas 5.0 for the 6.9 will feel almost the same. In the case you REALLY need more punch Gale Banks makes a turbo for the 6.9, which increases HP at least 20% and torque up to 30%. There was also a company I can't recall the name, which made a system called HyperMax Pulse, or something like it. Just remember, for towing, the torque of the 6.9 will have no match, but it might feel kind of slow while taking off from a dead stop.It just a matter of getting used on how and when to shift, if standard tranny is used.If the auto is going to be used, then you will see no difference, and you can always adjust the kickdown to suit your driving habits. What will be better, and sorry here if you are a hard core Ford lover, is to replace the whole drivetrain (engine-tranny) with a Chevy 6.2 diesel mated to a 4speed 700R4 tranny, which has a more than adequate 1st gear, while the 4th is an overdrive, for ease of highway driving and better fuel economy.There are a big number of company that might provide you with whatever is required for such swap.Advance Adapters is one of those. - Original Message - *From:* Greg and April mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:53 AM *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks What size of engine can the 6.9L replace? I have a 85 Grand Marque with a defunct 5L engine. Greg H. - Original Message - *From:* Wireless Data Transfer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2005 21:24 *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks If I'm correct, Ford first used a diesel on their pick up line on '82, it was the 6.9liter made by International(Navistar) which evolved later to the 7.3liter.If a recall allright, it is a direct bolt-on swap, those diesel should mate any Ford transmission, standard or auto (for the auto, the C6 is recommended).The engine mounts might be slighlty different, but a visit to the local Ford parts dealer should help you find the adequate engine-to-frame mounts. - Original Message - *From:* DERICK GIORCHINO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2005 4:09 PM *Subject:* RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks Ford did as dodge does. For years ford installed international harvester engines in there trucks and vans but represented them as a ford product. Don’t get me wrong they were good engines but I never saw a turbo unit. Im not sure when ford came out with there powerstroke. Dodge has always used Cummins ether 12 or 24 valve also very strong good engines. Good luck Derick *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *aidan, cathy brad *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:38 AM *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks we have a Ford '72 F250 that has really low mileage on it and were considering a diesel conversion. how far back did Ford make diesels for their trucks (assuming that they do.) any input would be appreciated. On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. I´m looking for a tough, long lasting vehicle that I can haul building materials, worm bins, bagged vermicompost, and drums of waste oil and ethanol. I´d also be using it to get my wife and I to work and the kids to school. I´m not interested in something sexy, I married her. I need a working vehicle. Any suggestions out there. Of the vehicles I saw
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
Sound's very do-able, although I think I would go with the turbo just because I live at 5500 ft and have lot's of hills that can top out at 9000ft to 14000ft to climb ( some of them from a dead stop ). I do think I would stay with the automatic trannie, but, would see if I could find a aftermarket overdrivefor it. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Wireless Data Transfer To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 21:49 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks The 6.9L HP rating is near to the one of the 302 (5.0L), but the TORQUE figure is huge! The 5.0-litre was rated 185-205 hp, the 6.9 litre diesel V8 was rated at 170hp , with torque 330-390 pounds-feet,and the 7.3-litre diesel V8 was rated 185-210 hp., with torque 360-425 pounds-feet.What suffers here are theuniversal joints! :-) So, replacing the gas 5.0 for the 6.9 will "feel" almost the same. In the case you REALLY need more "punch" Gale Banks makes a turbo for the 6.9, which increases HP at least 20% and torque up to 30%. There was also a companyI can't recall the name, which made a system called "HyperMax" Pulse, or something like it. Just remember, for towing, the torque of the 6.9 will have no match, but it might feel kind of "slow" while taking offfrom a dead stop.It just a matter of getting used on how and when to shift, if standard tranny is used.If the auto is going to be used, then you will see no difference, and you can always adjust the kickdown to suit your driving habits. What will be better, and sorry here if you are a hard core Ford lover, is to replace the whole drivetrain (engine-tranny) with a Chevy 6.2 diesel mated to a 4speed 700R4 tranny, which has a more than adequate 1st gear, while the 4th is an overdrive, for ease of highway driving and better fuel economy.There are a big number of company that might provide you with whatever is required for such swap.Advance Adapters is one of those. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
Hi Greg Not to jump in but I did a engine swap last year in my 1985 motor home. It started with a 440cid gas motor 727 gas trans. I put in a 5.9 liter turbo Cummins. Bear in mind 35 ft 18900 lbs of motor home with the gas motor would go 75 mph in a blink. But had a heck of a time climbing very steep grades. After the change was much slower to get up to speed and 65 to 70 was the max speed it just ran out of governor. But it would climb like a Billy goat. The trick is the rear end ratio. Good luck. Derrick From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wireless Data Transfer Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:50 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks The 6.9L HP rating is near to the one of the 302 (5.0L), but the TORQUE figure is huge! The 5.0-litre was rated 185-205 hp, the 6.9 litre diesel V8 was rated at 170hp , with torque 330-390 pounds-feet,and the 7.3-litre diesel V8 was rated 185-210 hp., with torque 360-425 pounds-feet.What suffers here are theuniversal joints! :-) So, replacing the gas 5.0 for the 6.9 will feel almost the same. In the case you REALLY need more punch Gale Banks makes a turbo for the 6.9, which increases HP at least 20% and torque up to 30%. There was also a companyI can't recall the name, which made a system called HyperMax Pulse, or something like it. Just remember, for towing, the torque of the 6.9 will have no match, but it might feel kind of slow while taking offfrom a dead stop.It just a matter of getting used on how and when to shift, if standard tranny is used.If the auto is going to be used, then you will see no difference, and you can always adjust the kickdown to suit your driving habits. What will be better, and sorry here if you are a hard core Ford lover, is to replace the whole drivetrain (engine-tranny) with a Chevy 6.2 diesel mated to a 4speed 700R4 tranny, which has a more than adequate 1st gear, while the 4th is an overdrive, for ease of highway driving and better fuel economy.There are a big number of company that might provide you with whatever is required for such swap.Advance Adapters is one of those. - Original Message - From: Greg and April To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks What size of enginecan the 6.9L replace? I havea85Grand Marquewith a defunct 5L engine. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Wireless Data Transfer To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 21:24 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks If I'm correct, Ford first used a diesel on their pick up line on '82, it was the 6.9liter made by International(Navistar) which evolved later to the 7.3liter.If a recall allright, it is a direct bolt-on swap, those diesel should mate any Ford transmission, standard or auto (for the auto, the C6 is recommended).The engine mounts might be slighlty different, but a visit to the local Ford parts dealer should help you find the adequate engine-to-frame mounts. - Original Message - From: DERICK GIORCHINO To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks Ford did as dodge does. For years ford installed international harvester engines in there trucks and vans but represented them as a ford product. Dont get me wrong they were good engines but I never saw a turbo unit. Im not sure when ford came out with there powerstroke. Dodge has always used Cummins ether 12 or 24 valve also very strong good engines. Good luck Derick From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of aidan, cathy brad Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:38 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks we have a Ford '72 F250 that has really low mileage on it and were considering a diesel conversion. how far back did Ford make diesels for their trucks (assuming that they do.) any input would be appreciated. On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. I´m looking for a tough, long lasting vehicle that I can haul building materials, worm bins, bagged vermicompost, and drums of waste oil and ethanol.I´d also be using it to get my wife and I to work and the kids to school. I´m not interested in something sexy, I married her. I need a working vehicle. Anysuggestions out there. Of the vehicles I saw in the archives, there were things like hybrids that I really don´t think I need. Any Brazilian pickups that run on straight ethanolI would certainly consider.It´s just
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
portland, or. On Tuesday, August 16, 2005, at 09:57 PM, robert luis rabello wrote: no. that's ok. we're out in portland, or. thank you though! ...rbury On Tuesday, August 16, 2005, at 05:04 PM, Mike Weaver wrote: Oregon or Maine? I know someone in Washington State right now who is trying to unload TWO diesel Rangers for $550. I might be interested in an engine, but I certainly DON'T need another truck. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
The 6.9L HP rating is near to the one of the 302
(5.0L), but the TORQUE figure is huge!
The 5.0-litre was rated 185-205 hp, the 6.9 litre
diesel V8 was rated at 170hp , with torque 330-390 pounds-feet,and the
7.3-litre diesel V8 was rated 185-210 hp., with torque 360-425
pounds-feet.What suffers here are theuniversal joints! :-)
So, replacing the gas 5.0 for the 6.9 will "feel"
almost the same.
In the case you REALLY need more "punch" Gale Banks
makes a turbo for the 6.9, which increases HP at least 20% and torque up to 30%.
There was also a companyI can't recall the name, which made a system
called "HyperMax" Pulse, or something like it.
Just remember, for towing, the torque of the 6.9
will have no match, but it might feel kind of "slow" while taking offfrom
a dead stop.It just a matter of getting used on how and when to shift, if
standard tranny is used.If the auto is going to be used, then you will see no
difference, and you can always adjust the kickdown to suit your driving
habits.
What will be better, and sorry here if you are a
hard core Ford lover, is to replace the whole drivetrain (engine-tranny) with a
Chevy 6.2 diesel mated to a 4speed 700R4 tranny, which has a more than adequate
1st gear, while the 4th is an overdrive, for ease of highway driving and better
fuel economy.There are a big number of company that might provide you with
whatever is required for such swap.Advance Adapters is one of
those.
- Original Message -
From:
Greg and April
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:53
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up
Trucks
What size of enginecan the 6.9L
replace? I havea85Grand Marquewith a
defunct 5L engine.
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From:
Wireless Data
Transfer
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005
21:24
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up
Trucks
If I'm correct, Ford first used a diesel on
their pick up line on '82, it was the 6.9liter made by
International(Navistar) which evolved later to the 7.3liter.If a recall
allright, it is a direct bolt-on swap, those diesel should mate any Ford
transmission, standard or auto (for the auto, the C6 is recommended).The
engine mounts might be slighlty different, but a visit to the local Ford
parts dealer should help you find the adequate engine-to-frame
mounts.
- Original Message -
From:
DERICK
GIORCHINO
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:09
PM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up
Trucks
Ford did as dodge
does. For years ford installed international harvester engines in there
trucks and vans but represented them as a ford product. Dont get me wrong
they were good engines but I never saw a turbo unit. Im not sure when ford
came out with there powerstroke. Dodge has always used Cummins ether 12 or
24 valve also very strong good engines.
Good luck
Derick
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of aidan, cathy
bradSent: Saturday,
August 13, 2005 11:38 AMTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up
Trucks
we have a Ford
'72 F250 that has really low mileage on it and were considering a diesel
conversion. how far back did Ford make diesels for their trucks (assuming
that they do.) any input would be appreciated. On Saturday, August 13,
2005, at 11:34 AM, Tom Irwin wrote:
Hi
All,It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first
pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy
S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids.
I´m looking for a tough, long lasting vehicle that I can haul building
materials, worm bins, bagged vermicompost, and drums of waste oil and
ethanol.I´d also be using it to get my wife and I to work and the
kids to school. I´m not interested in something sexy, I married her. I
need a working vehicle. Anysuggestions out there. Of the vehicles I
saw in the archives, there were things like hybrids that I really don´t
think I need. Any Brazilian pickups that run on straight ethanolI
would certainly consider.It´s just that I´m planning on generating
my own electricity and heating my house with a diesel generator. It
doesn´t really make much sense to me at this point to go
ethanol.Thanks,Tom
Irwin___Biofuel
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Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
What size of enginecan the 6.9L replace? I havea85Grand Marquewith a defunct 5L engine. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Wireless Data Transfer To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 21:24 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks If I'm correct, Ford first used a diesel on their pick up line on '82, it was the 6.9liter made by International(Navistar) which evolved later to the 7.3liter.If a recall allright, it is a direct bolt-on swap, those diesel should mate any Ford transmission, standard or auto (for the auto, the C6 is recommended).The engine mounts might be slighlty different, but a visit to the local Ford parts dealer should help you find the adequate engine-to-frame mounts. - Original Message - From: DERICK GIORCHINO To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks Ford did as dodge does. For years ford installed international harvester engines in there trucks and vans but represented them as a ford product. Dont get me wrong they were good engines but I never saw a turbo unit. Im not sure when ford came out with there powerstroke. Dodge has always used Cummins ether 12 or 24 valve also very strong good engines. Good luck Derick From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of aidan, cathy bradSent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:38 AMTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks we have a Ford '72 F250 that has really low mileage on it and were considering a diesel conversion. how far back did Ford make diesels for their trucks (assuming that they do.) any input would be appreciated. On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All,It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. I´m looking for a tough, long lasting vehicle that I can haul building materials, worm bins, bagged vermicompost, and drums of waste oil and ethanol.I´d also be using it to get my wife and I to work and the kids to school. I´m not interested in something sexy, I married her. I need a working vehicle. Anysuggestions out there. Of the vehicles I saw in the archives, there were things like hybrids that I really don´t think I need. Any Brazilian pickups that run on straight ethanolI would certainly consider.It´s just that I´m planning on generating my own electricity and heating my house with a diesel generator. It doesn´t really make much sense to me at this point to go ethanol.Thanks,Tom Irwin___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
There is a 7.3 w/ 30k for sale here for 1200.00 Greg and April wrote: What size of engine can the 6.9L replace? I have a 85 Grand Marque with a defunct 5L engine. Greg H. - Original Message - *From:* Wireless Data Transfer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2005 21:24 *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks If I'm correct, Ford first used a diesel on their pick up line on '82, it was the 6.9liter made by International(Navistar) which evolved later to the 7.3liter.If a recall allright, it is a direct bolt-on swap, those diesel should mate any Ford transmission, standard or auto (for the auto, the C6 is recommended).The engine mounts might be slighlty different, but a visit to the local Ford parts dealer should help you find the adequate engine-to-frame mounts. - Original Message - *From:* DERICK GIORCHINO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2005 4:09 PM *Subject:* RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks Ford did as dodge does. For years ford installed international harvester engines in there trucks and vans but represented them as a ford product. Don’t get me wrong they were good engines but I never saw a turbo unit. Im not sure when ford came out with there powerstroke. Dodge has always used Cummins ether 12 or 24 valve also very strong good engines. Good luck Derick *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *aidan, cathy brad *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:38 AM *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks we have a Ford '72 F250 that has really low mileage on it and were considering a diesel conversion. how far back did Ford make diesels for their trucks (assuming that they do.) any input would be appreciated. On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. I´m looking for a tough, long lasting vehicle that I can haul building materials, worm bins, bagged vermicompost, and drums of waste oil and ethanol. I´d also be using it to get my wife and I to work and the kids to school. I´m not interested in something sexy, I married her. I need a working vehicle. Any suggestions out there. Of the vehicles I saw in the archives, there were things like hybrids that I really don´t think I need. Any Brazilian pickups that run on straight ethanol I would certainly consider. It´s just that I´m planning on generating my own electricity and heating my house with a diesel generator. It doesn´t really make much sense to me at this point to go ethanol. Thanks, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel
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Virginia... do you want me to call and see if it is still available? I saw it on craigslist.org - Washington DC -Mike aidan, cathy brad wrote: mike...where are you located? rbury On Tuesday, August 16, 2005, at 08:24 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: There is a 7.3 w/ 30k for sale here for 1200.00 Greg and April wrote: What size of engine can the 6.9L replace? I have a 85 Grand Marque with a defunct 5L engine. Greg H. - Original Message - *From:* Wireless Data Transfer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2005 21:24 *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks If I'm correct, Ford first used a diesel on their pick up line on '82, it was the 6.9liter made by International(Navistar) which evolved later to the 7.3liter.If a recall allright, it is a direct bolt-on swap, those diesel should mate any Ford transmission, standard or auto (for the auto, the C6 is recommended).The engine mounts might be slighlty different, but a visit to the local Ford parts dealer should help you find the adequate engine-to-frame mounts. - Original Message - *From:* DERICK GIORCHINO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2005 4:09 PM *Subject:* RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks Ford did as dodge does. For years ford installed international harvester engines in there trucks and vans but represented them as a ford product. Don’t get me wrong they were good engines but I never saw a turbo unit. Im not sure when ford came out with there powerstroke. Dodge has always used Cummins ether 12 or 24 valve also very strong good engines. Good luck Derick -- -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *aidan, cathy brad *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:38 AM *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks we have a Ford '72 F250 that has really low mileage on it and were considering a diesel conversion. how far back did Ford make diesels for their trucks (assuming that they do.) any input would be appreciated. On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. I´m looking for a tough, long lasting vehicle that I can haul building materials, worm bins, bagged vermicompost, and drums of waste oil and ethanol. I´d also be using it to get my wife and I to work and the kids to school. I´m not interested in something sexy, I married her. I need a working vehicle. Any suggestions out there. Of the vehicles I saw in the archives, there were things like hybrids that I really don´t think I need. Any Brazilian pickups that run on straight ethanol I would certainly consider. It´s just that I´m planning on generating my own electricity and heating my house with a diesel generator. It doesn´t really make much sense to me at this point to go ethanol. Thanks, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
mike...where are you located? rbury On Tuesday, August 16, 2005, at 08:24 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: There is a 7.3 w/ 30k for sale here for 1200.00 Greg and April wrote: What size of engine can the 6.9L replace? I have a 85 Grand Marque with a defunct 5L engine. Greg H. - Original Message - *From:* Wireless Data Transfer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2005 21:24 *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks If I'm correct, Ford first used a diesel on their pick up line on '82, it was the 6.9liter made by International(Navistar) which evolved later to the 7.3liter.If a recall allright, it is a direct bolt-on swap, those diesel should mate any Ford transmission, standard or auto (for the auto, the C6 is recommended).The engine mounts might be slighlty different, but a visit to the local Ford parts dealer should help you find the adequate engine-to-frame mounts. - Original Message - *From:* DERICK GIORCHINO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2005 4:09 PM *Subject:* RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks Ford did as dodge does. For years ford installed international harvester engines in there trucks and vans but represented them as a ford product. Don’t get me wrong they were good engines but I never saw a turbo unit. Im not sure when ford came out with there powerstroke. Dodge has always used Cummins ether 12 or 24 valve also very strong good engines. Good luck Derick -- -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *aidan, cathy brad *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:38 AM *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks we have a Ford '72 F250 that has really low mileage on it and were considering a diesel conversion. how far back did Ford make diesels for their trucks (assuming that they do.) any input would be appreciated. On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. I´m looking for a tough, long lasting vehicle that I can haul building materials, worm bins, bagged vermicompost, and drums of waste oil and ethanol. I´d also be using it to get my wife and I to work and the kids to school. I´m not interested in something sexy, I married her. I need a working vehicle. Any suggestions out there. Of the vehicles I saw in the archives, there were things like hybrids that I really don´t think I need. Any Brazilian pickups that run on straight ethanol I would certainly consider. It´s just that I´m planning on generating my own electricity and heating my house with a diesel generator. It doesn´t really make much sense to me at this point to go ethanol. Thanks, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
no. that's ok. we're out in portland, or. thank you though! ...rbury On Tuesday, August 16, 2005, at 05:04 PM, Mike Weaver wrote: Virginia... do you want me to call and see if it is still available? I saw it on craigslist.org - Washington DC -Mike aidan, cathy brad wrote: mike...where are you located? rbury On Tuesday, August 16, 2005, at 08:24 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: There is a 7.3 w/ 30k for sale here for 1200.00 Greg and April wrote: What size of engine can the 6.9L replace? I have a 85 Grand Marque with a defunct 5L engine. Greg H. - Original Message - *From:* Wireless Data Transfer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2005 21:24 *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks If I'm correct, Ford first used a diesel on their pick up line on '82, it was the 6.9liter made by International(Navistar) which evolved later to the 7.3liter.If a recall allright, it is a direct bolt-on swap, those diesel should mate any Ford transmission, standard or auto (for the auto, the C6 is recommended).The engine mounts might be slighlty different, but a visit to the local Ford parts dealer should help you find the adequate engine-to-frame mounts. - Original Message - *From:* DERICK GIORCHINO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2005 4:09 PM *Subject:* RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks Ford did as dodge does. For years ford installed international harvester engines in there trucks and vans but represented them as a ford product. Don’t get me wrong they were good engines but I never saw a turbo unit. Im not sure when ford came out with there powerstroke. Dodge has always used Cummins ether 12 or 24 valve also very strong good engines. Good luck Derick -- -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *aidan, cathy brad *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:38 AM *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks we have a Ford '72 F250 that has really low mileage on it and were considering a diesel conversion. how far back did Ford make diesels for their trucks (assuming that they do.) any input would be appreciated. On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. I´m looking for a tough, long lasting vehicle that I can haul building materials, worm bins, bagged vermicompost, and drums of waste oil and ethanol. I´d also be using it to get my wife and I to work and the kids to school. I´m not interested in something sexy, I married her. I need a working vehicle. Any suggestions out there. Of the vehicles I saw in the archives, there were things like hybrids that I really don´t think I need. Any Brazilian pickups that run on straight ethanol I would certainly consider. It´s just that I´m planning on generating my own electricity and heating my house with a diesel generator. It doesn´t really make much sense to me at this point to go ethanol. Thanks, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
no. that's ok. we're out in portland, or. thank you though! ...rbury On Tuesday, August 16, 2005, at 05:04 PM, Mike Weaver wrote: Oregon or Maine? I know someone in Washington State right now who is trying to unload TWO diesel Rangers for $550. I might be interested in an engine, but I certainly DON'T need another truck. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
Ford did as dodge does. For years ford installed international harvester engines in there trucks and vans but represented them as a ford product. Dont get me wrong they were good engines but I never saw a turbo unit. Im not sure when ford came out with there powerstroke. Dodge has always used Cummins ether 12 or 24 valve also very strong good engines. Good luck Derick From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of aidan, cathy brad Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:38 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks we have a Ford '72 F250 that has really low mileage on it and were considering a diesel conversion. how far back did Ford make diesels for their trucks (assuming that they do.) any input would be appreciated. On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. I´m looking for a tough, long lasting vehicle that I can haul building materials, worm bins, bagged vermicompost, and drums of waste oil and ethanol.I´d also be using it to get my wife and I to work and the kids to school. I´m not interested in something sexy, I married her. I need a working vehicle. Anysuggestions out there. Of the vehicles I saw in the archives, there were things like hybrids that I really don´t think I need. Any Brazilian pickups that run on straight ethanolI would certainly consider.It´s just that I´m planning on generating my own electricity and heating my house with a diesel generator. It doesn´t really make much sense to me at this point to go ethanol. Thanks, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
If I'm correct, Ford first used a diesel on their pick up line on '82, it was the 6.9liter made by International(Navistar) which evolved later to the 7.3liter.If a recall allright, it is a direct bolt-on swap, those diesel should mate any Ford transmission, standard or auto (for the auto, the C6 is recommended).The engine mounts might be slighlty different, but a visit to the local Ford parts dealer should help you find the adequate engine-to-frame mounts. - Original Message - From: DERICK GIORCHINO To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks Ford did as dodge does. For years ford installed international harvester engines in there trucks and vans but represented them as a ford product. Dont get me wrong they were good engines but I never saw a turbo unit. Im not sure when ford came out with there powerstroke. Dodge has always used Cummins ether 12 or 24 valve also very strong good engines. Good luck Derick From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of aidan, cathy bradSent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:38 AMTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks we have a Ford '72 F250 that has really low mileage on it and were considering a diesel conversion. how far back did Ford make diesels for their trucks (assuming that they do.) any input would be appreciated. On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All,It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. I´m looking for a tough, long lasting vehicle that I can haul building materials, worm bins, bagged vermicompost, and drums of waste oil and ethanol.I´d also be using it to get my wife and I to work and the kids to school. I´m not interested in something sexy, I married her. I need a working vehicle. Anysuggestions out there. Of the vehicles I saw in the archives, there were things like hybrids that I really don´t think I need. Any Brazilian pickups that run on straight ethanolI would certainly consider.It´s just that I´m planning on generating my own electricity and heating my house with a diesel generator. It doesn´t really make much sense to me at this point to go ethanol.Thanks,Tom Irwin___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
we have a Ford '72 F250 that has really low mileage on it and were considering a diesel conversion. how far back did Ford make diesels for their trucks (assuming that they do.) any input would be appreciated. On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. I´m looking for a tough, long lasting vehicle that I can haul building materials, worm bins, bagged vermicompost, and drums of waste oil and ethanol. I´d also be using it to get my wife and I to work and the kids to school. I´m not interested in something sexy, I married her. I need a working vehicle. Any suggestions out there. Of the vehicles I saw in the archives, there were things like hybrids that I really don´t think I need. Any Brazilian pickups that run on straight ethanol I would certainly consider. It´s just that I´m planning on generating my own electricity and heating my house with a diesel generator. It doesn´t really make much sense to me at this point to go ethanol. Thanks, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. What you need is the 4 door diesel Ranger, which is really a Mazda. I really wish I could get one of those up here! http://www.motioncars.com/carchart/html/ford_ranger.htm I have a two door gasoline model. It's been rock solid reliable for better than 7 years now, and it's still going strong. You can see photos of it on my Supertruck web site. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
Hi Robert, I´ll add that truck to my search list. Looks bigger than an S10. Thanks, Tom Irwin From: robert luis rabello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:06:36 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up TrucksTom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. What you need is the 4 door diesel Ranger, which is really a Mazda. I really wish I could get one of those up here!http://www.motioncars.com/carchart/html/ford_ranger.htmI have a two door gasoline model. It's been rock solid reliable for better than 7 years now, and it's still going strong. You can see photos of it on my Supertruck web site.robert luis rabello"The Edge of Justice"Adventure for Your Mindhttp://www.newadventure.caRanger Supercharger Project Pagehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks
I wish we could get *anything* with a diesel in the states. robert luis rabello wrote: Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. What you need is the 4 door diesel Ranger, which is really a Mazda. I really wish I could get one of those up here! http://www.motioncars.com/carchart/html/ford_ranger.htm I have a two door gasoline model. It's been rock solid reliable for better than 7 years now, and it's still going strong. You can see photos of it on my Supertruck web site. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
