on and on, but it's just another blind alley.
Best
Keith
Doug
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I was going to mix some of this up about 7 years ago, It so happened
that I
would be a help here
Doug
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I was going to mix some of this up about 7 years ago, It so happened
that I asked a farmer about it and he told me
more goals to attain in
this world. Are we here to attain the answers or the questions?
My thanks to all.
Doug
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Jim,
Instead of ammonia, get a pack of chewing tobacco. Soak it in a
gallon of water for a day in the sun. Strain the tobacco out and
then add the dish soap. Spray it on the buggies
eating your grapevines. It won't kill the vines though.
Best
Keith
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21, 2006 8:32 PM
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This may work for grapes but keep it the hell away from tomato plants or
you'll find out what the tobaco mosaic virus is!
Joe
JJJN wrote:
I was going to mix some of this up about 7 years ago, It so happened
that I asked
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Costs zippo for raw cut and dried tobacco here, about US$2 per kilogram.
I tried the mix of one handful
though.
Best
Keith
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Jim,
Instead of ammonia, get a pack of chewing tobacco
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Chris Lloyd wrote:
Some compost has virtually no ability to fertilise anything, I got caught
out
If you get rotted horse manure next year (rotted being a word that
covers a host of sins) use it to make compost.
We used to have a nice local farmer who used straw to bed the horses down in
and he just piled the old bedding up in one long 25 ton heap so the old end
was about 5 years old.
AM
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JJJN wrote:
Hello folks, any organic lawn experts out there? I have been
encroaching out 75% of my lawn with food plants for both wildlife and
humans, but I still have this 25% and living in town I need to keep
it lawn. the question is how
Jim, Instead of ammonia, get a pack of chewing tobacco. Soak it in a gallon of water for a day in the sun. Strain the tobacco out and then add the dish soap. Spray it on the buggies. The nicotine is absorbed into the little critters and they die. The plants don't care either way about the stuff. I
: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:47 PM
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topic
Jim, Instead of ammonia, get a pack of chewing
tobacco. Soak it in a gallon of water for a day in the sun. Strain
the tobacco out and then add the dish soap. Spray it on the
buggies. The nicotine is absorbed
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I have to agree here. I kept an organic lawn for 10 years. I used a
mulching
mower to put the clippings back into the lawn and used the mower on its
tallest setting. The rare time I watered (which wasn't
lres1 wrote:
Will this kill the bugs busy eating
away my precious grape vines and shade area without harming the vine.
That is used tobacco and some soap liquid mixed with water and pump it
from a hand sprayer? Got sunlight soap here for the dishes, lemon scent
even.
Summary.
: Steve Racz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have to agree here. I kept an organic lawn for 10 years. I used a
mulching
mower to put the clippings back into the lawn and used the mower
. It won't kill the vines though.
Best
Keith
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Jim,
Instead of ammonia, get a pack
Keith Addison wrote:
Nicotine will kill everything else too, including the bugs that eat
the bugs eating your grapevines. It won't kill the vines though.
Best
Keith
This is why the whole pest management approach is fundamentally
flawed. Plants should be able to tolerate mild
12:03 AM
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Hi Thomas,
Thanks, I will start putting compost on soon. Every thing is going well
except my gourds, they dont seem to like this latitude or something. My
jeruselum artichokes are going crazy they are already 4-5 feet tall. I
hope we
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Will this kill the bugs busy eating away my
precious grape vines and shade area without harming the vine. That is used
tobacco and some soap
Jim,
My lawn is in the middle of pasture land, so grasses of one type or
another grow pretty well. I use sifted compost to bring back areas that have
been damaged
(after a winter of dogs pee-ing on the grass just out the back door).
I have two sifters: a large one with 1/2 hardware
JJJN wrote:
Hello folks, any organic lawn experts out there? I have been
encroaching out 75% of my lawn with food plants for both wildlife and
humans, but I still have this 25% and living in town I need to keep
it lawn. the question is how does one raise a great lawn without weed
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Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 7:46 AM
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JJJN wrote:
Hello folks, any organic lawn experts out there? I have been
encroaching out 75% of my lawn with food plants for both wildlife and
humans, but I still have this 25% and living in town I
This is a little out of date and I don't really agree with some of
it, but it might help. Forget about fertilisers (like bloodmeal,
bonemeal etc), whether organic or not, as Robert says it's just
replacing chemical fertilizers with non chemical fertilizers. Use
sifted compost and compost tea.
Forget about fertilisers (like bloodmeal,
bonemeal etc), whether organic or not, as Robert says it's just
replacing chemical fertilizers with non chemical fertilizers. Use
sifted compost and compost tea.
Some compost has virtually no ability to fertilise anything, I got caught
out this year
I hate my lawn. Pointless, and the lawn owners are killing the
Chesapeake bay w/ fertilizer
robert and benita rabello wrote:
JJJN wrote:
Hello folks, any organic lawn experts out there? I have been
encroaching out 75% of my lawn with food plants for both wildlife and
humans, but I
Chris Lloyd wrote:
Some compost has virtually no ability to fertilise anything, I got caught
out this year with the half ton I got for growing tomatoes in. It was
supposed to be composted household waste and tree leaves, looked good, smelt
good and will probably make a good soil improver but I
Hello Chris
Forget about fertilisers (like bloodmeal,
bonemeal etc), whether organic or not, as Robert says it's just
replacing chemical fertilizers with non chemical fertilizers. Use
sifted compost and compost tea.
Some compost has virtually no ability to fertilise anything, I got caught
out
Hi Thomas,
Thanks, I will start putting compost on soon. Every thing is going well
except my gourds, they dont seem to like this latitude or something. My
jeruselum artichokes are going crazy they are already 4-5 feet tall. I
hope we get a late summer as last year they blossomed - a rare
Robert,
I was told that if you take one cup Lemon dish soap and mix with one cup
lemon ammonia and spray like you would with a pesticide bottle that you
hook on the end of a garden hose. At first I thought the idea sounded
good but then what is in all that stuff? and if it kills the bad guys
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