Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency
running 50/50 cause of the warranty issue. We have 40,000 mi so far no problems. Just be sure to water wash your batches. - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency My $.02. I believe it was the 2004 TDI that was at issue due to the type of pump they switched to. If memory serves correctly the preceeding years were just fine. I have a 1983 240D Mercedes that is presently getting the screen filter (sediment filter) in the tank changed as well as the fuel lines. The absolute necessity of the change of fuel lines might be up for question although some have experienced problems with the return line and it may need to be changed, but again, if memory serves, that was for pre-'85 cars so your '95 should be OK other than a filter change after a couple tank fills. That is what happened with mine; tw o or three tank fulls of B100 and all the accumulated crap from 21 years of Dr. Dino came loose :) The problem will not have time to reoccur. Luc - Original Message - From: Buck Corrigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:01 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency Hi Ken; I'm just finishing my first 150 l. batch of biodiesel. I seem to remeber someone saying the newer VW TDI's didn't like the biodiesel very much. Have you experienced any problems other than having to change filters? I've got an older ford diesel (95) I plan to run on the biodiesel, and my wife has a 2000 Jetta TDI. She'a a bit nervous about using home-made fuel in her baby. Any comments would be appreciated. Buck ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency was Flying the Dirty Skies
- Original Message - From: Todd Hershberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 13:07 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency was Flying the Dirty Skies Greg, I haven't driven across the entire country so I will only speak for the miles I have incurred. BTY, where do you live? It is one thing the brag about 50 MPG in flat country, but, your mileage is likely going to drop once you get into mountain county ( losing up to 1/4 to 1/2 of your MPG depending on the capabilities of your vehicle - especially with the extra weight mentioned above ), I sense a little bit of exaggeration. Not realy.Like I said, it depends on the capabilities of the vehical. I had to deal with head winds and a uphill climb ( at the same time ), only got about half the miles I expected because of the combination of the two. I drove with my dad and luggage from Chicago to Boston with speeds between 55-75 mph and averaged 58 mpg. Still not dealing with mountian country. Beetles are notoriously underpowered for mountain country. A stock TDI has 90 hp and 155 ft-lbs torque. I'm sure it will have no problem over the mountains. My modified TDI has 110 hp and 225 ft-lbs torque. For a light weight car that's not bad, would still drink more fuel in the west, once you hit mountian country, but you could still fly up hill, should you want to. Going to run the A/C on the trip? Certainly not going up the hills only when going down. Any serious mpg driver knows that. They also tint the windows too keep the inside cooler and only run the fan. Tinted windows are only a short term solution because once the sun has been on them awhile, they heat up and add heat to the car, and several cities/states have laws against the windows being tinted. I also know that the winner of Tour de Soul competition was a biodiesel powered stock Jetta, which got around 85 mpg and broke multiple records. I'll have to find out the particulars of the Tour de Soul and this winning Jetta .The year this happened would be helpful. Greg H. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency was Flying the Dirty Skies
If you don't mind, I would like to see comparative mpg numbers, of the various trips. It would be interesting, to see where -vs.- mpg, for your vehicle. Greg H. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 16:07 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency was Flying the Dirty Skies Driving by myself and no luggage, I get 51.8 mpg at a constant 60 mph (tested only once). With two people and luggage, I vary between 47 and 49 mpg at a constant 70 mph. I have driven from Indiana to Maine and to Colorado, and these numbers do not vary considerably. If you want specific numbers for these trips, I can get them, as I record every fill-up. I have over 65,000 miles on my 2003 Beetle, and can give date, mileage, total gallons and cost for every time I have filled it, as well as where the fuel was purchased. Compulsive? Maybe, but if you really want the numbers I can produce them. I used 50 mpg for convenience, not because it is an exact number. My only point was that driving was much more efficient, in terms of fuel only, than flying. Brian ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency was Flying the Dirty Skies
I know that I saw a post from Greg on this thread earlier, but now I can't find it. I'll do my best to compile the data on my trips on Sunday, when I have some free time. It will be interesting to see whether there is a substantial change in mileage in the mountains compared to flatland. I haven't looked at this specifically. Brian On Thursday, October 21, 2004, at 04:07 PM, Todd Hershberger wrote: snip A stock TDI has 90 hp and 155 ft-lbs torque. I'm sure it will have no problem over the mountains. My modified TDI has 110 hp and 225 ft-lbs torque. snip Hi Todd, What mods have you made to the TDI? Bigger intercooler? What else? Enquiring minds... thanks, andres ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency
My 2002 VW TDI Golf gets at least 50 mpg, I also record every fillup and drive all hills all the time mostly back roads and gravel. with 63,000 miles and loving it I rarely get to take it on long trips ,but i also haul 300 lbs of cow feed in it at least once a week on my way home ,it is still a lot cheaper than my truck that gets 10-12 mpg Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency was Flying the Dirty Skies
Thanks. BTW, I'm planning on modifying my diesel, and plan to see an increase in mileage and HP when done ( even here in the mountains ) Greg H. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 08:50 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency was Flying the Dirty Skies I know that I saw a post from Greg on this thread earlier, but now I can't find it. I'll do my best to compile the data on my trips on Sunday, when I have some free time. It will be interesting to see whether there is a substantial change in mileage in the mountains compared to flatland. I haven't looked at this specifically. Brian On Thursday, October 21, 2004, at 04:07 PM, Todd Hershberger wrote: snip A stock TDI has 90 hp and 155 ft-lbs torque. I'm sure it will have no problem over the mountains. My modified TDI has 110 hp and 225 ft-lbs torque. snip Hi Todd, What mods have you made to the TDI? Bigger intercooler? What else? Enquiring minds... thanks, andres ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency
Hi Ken; I'm just finishing my first 150 l. batch of biodiesel. I seem to remeber someone saying the newer VW TDI's didn't like the biodiesel very much. Have you experienced any problems other than having to change filters? I've got an older ford diesel (95) I plan to run on the biodiesel, and my wife has a 2000 Jetta TDI. She'a a bit nervous about using home-made fuel in her baby. Any comments would be appreciated. Buck ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency
pump they switched to. If memory serves correctly the preceeding years were just fine. I have a 1983 240D Mercedes that is presently getting the screen filter (sediment filter) in the tank changed as well as the fuel lines. The absolute necessity of the change of fuel lines might be up for question although some have experienced problems with the return line and it may need to be changed, but again, if memory serves, that was for pre-'85 cars so your '95 should be OK other than a filter change after a couple tank fills. That is what happened with mine; tw o or three tank fulls of B100 and all the accumulated crap from 21 years of Dr. Dino came loose :) The problem will not have time to reoccur. Luc - Original Message - From: Buck Corrigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:01 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency Hi Ken; I'm just finishing my first 150 l. batch of biodiesel. I seem to remeber someone saying the newer VW TDI's didn't like the biodiesel very much. Have you experienced any problems other than having to change filters? I've got an older ford diesel (95) I plan to run on the biodiesel, and my wife has a 2000 Jetta TDI. She'a a bit nervous about using home-made fuel in her baby. Any comments would be appreciated. Buck ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency was Flying the Dirty Skies
I haven't driven across the entire country so I will only speak for the miles I have incurred. You say you get 50 MHG with your Beetle, how many people is that with? With more than one person and necessary luggage for going across country ( at least a week ), your mileage is going to go down, way down from your average day or weekend getaway trip. BTY, where do you live? It is one thing the brag about 50 MPG in flat country, but, your mileage is likely going to drop once you get into mountain county ( losing up to 1/4 to 1/2 of your MPG depending on the capabilities of your vehicle - especially with the extra weight mentioned above ), I sense a little bit of exaggeration. I drove with my dad and luggage from Chicago to Boston with speeds between 55-75 mph and averaged 58 mpg. Beetles are notoriously underpowered for mountain country. A stock TDI has 90 hp and 155 ft-lbs torque. I'm sure it will have no problem over the mountains. My modified TDI has 110 hp and 225 ft-lbs torque. Going to run the A/C on the trip? Certainly not going up the hills only when going down. Any serious mpg driver knows that. They also tint the windows too keep the inside cooler and only run the fan. What route are you going to take, some routes snip I also know that the winner of Tour de Soul competition was a biodiesel powered stock Jetta, which got around 85 mpg and broke multiple records. Sincerely, Todd - Original Message - From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 17:04 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Flying the Dirty Skies There was a 60 Minutes piece on low cost airlines last week. One graphic they showed was the fact that it took 55 gallons of fuel per person to fly coast to coast. That is if the plane is full, and I am assuming they figured in cargo (although this is not necessarily a safe assumption). At 50 mpg, my Beetle TDI can go 2000 miles on 40 gallons of fuel, and I would be unlikely to do it alone. Therefore, I am at about 20 gallons per person. Much more efficient. Brian ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency was Flying the Dirty Skies
Driving by myself and no luggage, I get 51.8 mpg at a constant 60 mph (tested only once). With two people and luggage, I vary between 47 and 49 mpg at a constant 70 mph. I have driven from Indiana to Maine and to Colorado, and these numbers do not vary considerably. If you want specific numbers for these trips, I can get them, as I record every fill-up. I have over 65,000 miles on my 2003 Beetle, and can give date, mileage, total gallons and cost for every time I have filled it, as well as where the fuel was purchased. Compulsive? Maybe, but if you really want the numbers I can produce them. I used 50 mpg for convenience, not because it is an exact number. My only point was that driving was much more efficient, in terms of fuel only, than flying. Brian Greg, I haven't driven across the entire country so I will only speak for the miles I have incurred. You say you get 50 MHG with your Beetle, how many people is that with? With more than one person and necessary luggage for going across country ( at least a week ), your mileage is going to go down, way down from your average day or weekend getaway trip. BTY, where do you live? It is one thing the brag about 50 MPG in flat country, but, your mileage is likely going to drop once you get into mountain county ( losing up to 1/4 to 1/2 of your MPG depending on the capabilities of your vehicle - especially with the extra weight mentioned above ), I sense a little bit of exaggeration. I drove with my dad and luggage from Chicago to Boston with speeds between 55-75 mph and averaged 58 mpg. Beetles are notoriously underpowered for mountain country. A stock TDI has 90 hp and 155 ft-lbs torque. I'm sure it will have no problem over the mountains. My modified TDI has 110 hp and 225 ft-lbs torque. Going to run the A/C on the trip? Certainly not going up the hills only when going down. Any serious mpg driver knows that. They also tint the windows too keep the inside cooler and only run the fan. What route are you going to take, some routes snip I also know that the winner of Tour de Soul competition was a biodiesel powered stock Jetta, which got around 85 mpg and broke multiple records. Sincerely, Todd - Original Message - From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 17:04 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Flying the Dirty Skies There was a 60 Minutes piece on low cost airlines last week. One graphic they showed was the fact that it took 55 gallons of fuel per person to fly coast to coast. That is if the plane is full, and I am assuming they figured in cargo (although this is not necessarily a safe assumption). At 50 mpg, my Beetle TDI can go 2000 miles on 40 gallons of fuel, and I would be unlikely to do it alone. Therefore, I am at about 20 gallons per person. Much more efficient. Brian ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency was Flying the Dirty Skies
snip A stock TDI has 90 hp and 155 ft-lbs torque. I'm sure it will have no problem over the mountains. My modified TDI has 110 hp and 225 ft-lbs torque. snip Hi Todd, What mods have you made to the TDI? Bigger intercooler? What else? Enquiring minds... thanks, andres ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
