Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-26 Thread Ian Lepore
On Sat, 2017-11-25 at 22:09 +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: > On Fri, 24 Nov 2017, Ian Lepore wrote: > > [...] > > Is there any use for ntp as a client if you have an atomic clock?  Just to > validate both it and ntpd? > > Bruce Ntpd treats the atomic clock as one of its peers...  the clock emits a

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-25 Thread Warner Losh
On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 4:09 AM, Bruce Evans wrote: > Is there any use for ntp as a client if you have an atomic clock? Just to > validate both it and ntpd? NTP is a peer to peer time exchange. You run the same daemon either way. However, in the reference clock case,

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-25 Thread Bruce Evans
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017, Ian Lepore wrote: On Fri, 2017-11-24 at 22:25 +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Devin Teske wrote: [...] ntpdate's man page claims this, but is wrong AFAIK.? It says that the functionality of ntpdate is now available in ntpd(8) using -q.? However ntpdate -q

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-24 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 15:36:22 -0700 Ian Lepore wrote: > On Fri, 2017-11-24 at 14:57 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < > > free...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are not talking

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-24 Thread Ian Lepore
On Fri, 2017-11-24 at 14:57 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < > free...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are not talking about removing ntpdate in this thread. > > >   Well, after Ian said that it was deprecated I

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-24 Thread Warner Losh
On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < free...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > We are not talking about removing ntpdate in this thread. > > > > Well, after Ian said that it was deprecated I ask if we should remove > > it to be honest. > > And I think we have come to the

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-24 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On 2017-11-24 17:46, Allan Jude wrote: > > On 11/23/2017 12:29, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > >> [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] > >>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Rodney W. Grimes > >>> wrote: > > Also we do provide an ntp.conf so ... > >

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-24 Thread Ian Lepore
On Fri, 2017-11-24 at 20:23 +0100, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > On 2017-11-24 17:46, Allan Jude wrote: > > > > On 11/23/2017 12:29, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Rodney W. Grimes > > > >

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-24 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
On 2017-11-24 17:46, Allan Jude wrote: On 11/23/2017 12:29, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: Also we do provide an ntp.conf so ... We do, a template, all commented

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-24 Thread Allan Jude
On 11/23/2017 12:29, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Rodney W. Grimes >> wrote: Also we do provide an ntp.conf so ... >>> >>> We do, a template, all commented out, and does not work

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-24 Thread Ian Lepore
On Fri, 2017-11-24 at 22:25 +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Devin Teske wrote: > [...] > > ntpdate's man page claims this, but is wrong AFAIK.  It says that the > functionality of ntpdate is now available in ntpd(8) using -q.  However > ntpdate -q is far from having equivalent

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-24 Thread Bruce Evans
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Devin Teske wrote: On Nov 23, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: Also we do provide an ntp.conf

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-23 Thread Devin Teske
> On Nov 23, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Rodney W. Grimes > wrote: > > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Rodney W. Grimes >> wrote: Also we do provide an ntp.conf so ... >>> >>> We do,

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-23 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
[ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Rodney W. Grimes > wrote: > >> Also we do provide an ntp.conf so ... > > > > We do, a template, all commented out, and does not work for > > machines behind strong firewalls that wont

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-23 Thread Conrad Meyer
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> Also we do provide an ntp.conf so ... > > We do, a template, all commented out, and does not work for > machines behind strong firewalls that wont allow ntp out > to the net but have internal ntp servers

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-23 Thread Ian Lepore
On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 06:56 -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > >  Hi Devin, > > > > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 01:33:39 -0800 > > Devin Teske wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:15 PM, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-23 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 07:17:49 -0800 (PST) "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:56:50 -0800 (PST) > > "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Devin, > > > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 01:33:39 -0800 > >

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-23 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:56:50 -0800 (PST) > "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Devin, > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 01:33:39 -0800 > > > Devin Teske wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:15 PM, Emmanuel

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-23 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:56:50 -0800 (PST) "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > > Hi Devin, > > > > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 01:33:39 -0800 > > Devin Teske wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:15 PM, Emmanuel Vadot

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-23 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > Hi Devin, > > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 01:33:39 -0800 > Devin Teske wrote: > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:15 PM, Emmanuel Vadot > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On 2017-11-22 17:38, Ian Lepore wrote: > > >>> On Wed, 2017-11-22 at 15:27 +,

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-23 Thread Devin Teske
> On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:15 PM, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > >> On 2017-11-22 17:38, Ian Lepore wrote: >>> On Wed, 2017-11-22 at 15:27 +, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: >>> Author: manu >>> Date: Wed Nov 22 15:27:47 2017 >>> New Revision: 326095 >>> URL:

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-23 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
Hi Devin, On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 01:33:39 -0800 Devin Teske wrote: > > > > On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:15 PM, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > >> On 2017-11-22 17:38, Ian Lepore wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2017-11-22 at 15:27 +, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > >>> Author:

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-22 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
On 2017-11-22 17:38, Ian Lepore wrote: On Wed, 2017-11-22 at 15:27 +, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: Author: manu Date: Wed Nov 22 15:27:47 2017 New Revision: 326095 URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/326095 Log:   bsdinstall: Add ntpdate option      When you install a computer for the

Re: svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-22 Thread Ian Lepore
On Wed, 2017-11-22 at 15:27 +, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > Author: manu > Date: Wed Nov 22 15:27:47 2017 > New Revision: 326095 > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/326095 > > Log: >   bsdinstall: Add ntpdate option >    >   When you install a computer for the first time, the date in

svn commit: r326095 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts

2017-11-22 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
Author: manu Date: Wed Nov 22 15:27:47 2017 New Revision: 326095 URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/326095 Log: bsdinstall: Add ntpdate option When you install a computer for the first time, the date in the CMOS sometimes not accurate and you need to ntpdate as ntpd will fail