Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-12 Thread Marco Thorek
Pedro Quaresma schrieb: Agreed wholeheartedly, but which companies care about that these days? How many games in the last few years have had a decent manual + props other than on a special or collectors edition? I can't recall any. Even very complicated games like Microsoft's FS9, who really

Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-12 Thread Jim Leonard
Marco Thorek wrote: I can't recall any. Even very complicated games like Microsoft's FS9, who really should come with adequate printed documentation, have most of it on the CD only. And Knight's of the Old Republic, being a CRPG, who usually have and need bigger manuals, comes with nothing more

Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-09 Thread Pedro Quaresma
Marco Thorek wrote: IMHO the best copy protection still is a neat box, a nice and sufficient manual and some props to go along. If all you get is a DVD case and a PDF manual on the CD, most people don't see enough physical evidence of the game's worth, compared to what is readily available on the

Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-05 Thread Marco Thorek
Edward Franks schrieb: Gamasutra had an interesting article http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20011017/dodd_01.htm -- you may need to register on Gamasutra to read it -- on the developer's attempts to simply slowdown the cracking of Spyro: Year of the Dragon. Their goal was simply

Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-05 Thread Edward Franks
On Dec 5, 2003, at 5:58 PM, Marco Thorek wrote: [Snip] I doubt that it made much of a difference. A good enough coder can quickly identify any subroutine depending on the protection. From the article it apparently did. Enough that the dev team decided it was worth the effort then and in the

Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-04 Thread Edward Franks
On Dec 3, 2003, at 7:07 PM, Dan Chisarick wrote: [Snip] http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2002/jul02/ 0724palladiumwp.asp Anyway, I remember reading about how hard the emulator guys were working on emulating brutal encryption on certain standup arcade titles. That seemed

Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-04 Thread Jim Leonard
Edward Franks wrote: Hmm. I need to think through this. I wonder if the NSA would freak if there wasn't a backdoor. I think the RIAA would freak if there *was* a back door ;-) So-called back doors are more trouble than their worth. It means that anyone to figures it out can get into

Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-04 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Jim Leonard stated: It certainly worked for the Atari Jaguar. Emulators and homebrew games were impossible until somebody cleverly broke the encryption using jaglink'd development systems running a brute-force technique. It took almost 9 months, if memory serves. (Ironically, the Jaguar

Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-04 Thread Jim Leonard
Lee K. Seitz wrote: I also seem to recall 4-Play's web page up with a countdown to when the brute force method would be done. And when the time was up, they still hadn't made an announcement. They hadn't updated the page -- several homebrew Jaguar games do indeed exist (check Songbird

[SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-02 Thread Jim Leonard
Sarinee? Which ones should I send to you and to which address? -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings:

RE: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-02 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart
, December 02, 2003 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?] Sarinee? Which ones should I send to you and to which address? -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene

Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-02 Thread Jim Leonard
a working copy of The Quest for IBM? Stuart -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?] Sarinee? Which ones should I send to you and to which address? -- Jim Leonard

Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]

2003-12-02 Thread Jim Leonard
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?] CRAP!!! This is the very first time in my life I have sent a message to the wrong address!! I am a moron! Feldhamer, Stuart wrote: Piracy? Here