Re: [SWCollect] And then one day, the Holy Grail is found

2004-03-30 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 03/30/2004 9:04:24 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I'd seen it on ebay several times. I even saw it in a store once but wasn't too interested.

Probably not that particular one Stuart, there are a few Origin soundtracks, that one is hard to find.

Tom
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RE: [SWCollect] And then one day, the Holy Grail is found

2004-03-30 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart



I know 
how you feel. I have no thirst for a Drash or Akalabeth either, except as a way 
of making some money. : )

I have 
found most of my holy grails also, but not all of them. There's still 
quite a few to search for. : )

Stuart

  -Original Message-From: MASTER 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Pedro 
  QuaresmaSent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:26 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [SWCollect] And then one day, 
  the Holy Grail is foundHello Stuart, Not sure how 
  rare the OST1 is, but I'm sure the production figures weren't that high since, 
  as you might know, the production was made solely by Origin UK and canceled by 
  Origin USA since they had given no permission for its release. Joe surely 
  knows more about this issue. Of 
  course, I am aware that my "Holy Grail" isn't as rare or coveted as an 
  Akalabeth or a Drash, but I'm not interested in any of those two anyway :) I 
  just wanted to point out that I found the item I wanted the most (times four!) 
  and I can call my Ultima collection, for my standards, "complete" :) 
  On the downside, my "collecting thirst" 
  is nearly gone now. Oh well. Pedro--Pedro R. QuaresmaSalvador Caetano IMVTDiv. 
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  Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and 
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  old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes
  


  

 

  
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  "Feldhamer, Stuart" 
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  Solicita-se resposta a 
swcollect Pedro,  
  Is the soundtrack really that rare? 
  Since hearing about it on this list, I'd seen it on ebay several times. I even 
  saw it in a store once but wasn't too interested.  Stuart -Original 
  Message-From: MASTER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of Pedro QuaresmaSent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:02 
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  then one day, the Holy Grail is foundHello list, 
  I have this theory: I know I will 
  find, cheap (I have the principle of not paying more than $50 per computer 
  game), all the items I'd really like to have in my Ultima 
  collection. Time has proven that I'm right. It has happened so 
  far with the Ultima items I'm most proud of, like the autographed Ultima 6, 
  autographed Savage Empire, big box Ultima 2, Ultima California Pacific, 
  etc. Still, some months ago, my personal "Holy Grail" 
  kept eluding me.. The chase started, a few years back, as all the 
  quests for Holy Grails: I thought the item to be a myth, until I actually 
  found someone who had it! And then I found someone else (who actually happens 
  to be on this list ;) ) who also had it! Perhaps there are others? It's 
  likely. Must I become one of them? Obviously! Suddenly, the myth becomes reality and the search at last has a 
  purpose. As with all the other items, I have faith it will eventually fall 
  onto my lap There is no rush, nothing to hurry or worry about. And 
  one day, it does. Shrinkwrapped. Brand new. I open it up (what an heresy!) and 
  discover it to be as good as I imagined it. Is the search over? No. 
  One isn't enough. In the following period of time (weeks? months?) I got my 
  hands on three more from the same source. Not one, not two, but three more. 
  All brand new and shrinkwrapped. 
  http://www.dcc.online.pt/~c9707061/images/collection4.jpg The 
  quest is now complete. 
  Pedro PS: 
  If you don't recognize the item in question, I will not disclose what it is 
  before I'm sure the other-SWCollect-member-who-has-one sees that photo 
  ;) PPS: I apologize to everyone from this list to whom I have 
  unanswered mails (you know who you are) but both the collecting "sting" and my 
  free time have been dying on me :/ 
  --Pedro R. 
  QuaresmaSalvador Caetano IMVTDiv. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and 
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Re: [SWCollect] And then one day, the Holy Grail is found

2004-03-30 Thread ommail


HOLY GUACAMOLE!  ...and congratulations, Pedro!

For those who don't know what it is, this is the infamous 'Origin Audio CD-Volume 1'.  
It is one of the rarest Origin items to acquire, due to it's strange beginnings...A 
little history is in order here:

Back in 1990, Origin was in it's glory days, and on the cutting edge of technology, 
including the realm of computer music.  Roland, Adlib, and Creative Labs were making 
games sound better than ever before, and with musicians like The Fatman, Dave Govet, 
and Martin Galway, music on a computer was taken to a new level--it was worth 
listening to when you WEREN'T PLAYING GAMES!  Origin decided to put out a CD of 
original game music called 'Origin Audio CD Volume 1', containing tracks from:

Wing Commander 1
Wing Commander 2
Ultima 6
Bad Blood
Times of Lore
Savage Empire
Martian Dreams
(Pedro, please correct this if I'm incorrect--I'm not at home as I write this)


..and here's where the story gets sketchy...

* Most Origin people don't even know about the CD, or don't remember it.  

* Lots of research and emails have given mixed answers. 

* All agree that it was not for sale in the US.  

* Some say that it was for Origin employees only-this is probably not true.  I was 
told that there were a few copies in a closet in Origin, but have not been able to 
confirm it positively. (...as a sidebar, There was NO OTHER original Akalabeth in the 
Origin vault--CONFIRMED!)

*I KNOW of at least one Austin-based Origin employee to have one.  

* I've also been told that it was only released in Engalnd--this may be true, but it 
gets even weirder. 
 
* Another story tells that it was only released in 'British-held territories'--My 
first copy's history says that it was sold retail in Hong Kong, but why on earth would 
Origin have done this?!

* More info reveals Underworld Dragon's research, taken from his webpage:

This was probably what prompted Origin to put a gag in the end of the Black Gate 
credits, saying Soundtrack available from Origin!. Unfortunately for them, the gag 
backfired, and they had so many requests from people thinking it was a real product 
that in the next game, Serpent Isle, they had to put in a retraction: Soundtrack NOT 
available - so DON'T ASK! Guess it just goes to show, be careful what you ask for!
___

Underworld's page is unfortunately outdated, so it still indicates that it probably 
doesn't exist.  (he now DOES know about it's existence tho--and it was a magic moment 
to see his smile when I put it in his hands!)

We now know of it's existence, and that it was sold in Hong Kong.

BUT...

I too have found another 'sealed' copy of 'Origin Audio CD-Volume 1' (I bought it off 
of Ebay in Q4 of 2003).  I now have two.  I also know someone else (Ben Lesnick) who 
got a 'sealed' copy as well (he got it from Ebay in Q4 of 2003).  I also saw someone 
else who has one from a few years ago (Lancelot Du Lake).  They seem to now be popping 
up everywhere...perhaps I'm paranoid, but C.E. has taught us all to be 'ever 
vigilant'. 

Could these be forgeries, or was there a box of them uncovered recently?  We need to 
find out.  I know that my original copy is probably real, but I never checked it 
closely against the shrinkwrapped one.  I will compare them this week, and give you 
all a report.  I'll also try to review my emails from that period, and find out who I 
bought it from.  This could be the first 'Origin Forgery', or the luckiest day in 
Pedro's LIFE!  Like I said, I'm probably wrong, but I think we have enough knowledge 
and resources to find out.

...Preserving Worlds...
Joe Garrity
Curator of The Origin Museum

Hello list,

I have this theory: I know I will find, cheap (I have the principle of not paying more than $50 per computer game), all the items I'd really like to have in my Ultima collection.

Time has proven that I'm right. It has happened so far with the Ultima items I'm most proud of, like the autographed Ultima 6, autographed Savage Empire, big box Ultima 2, Ultima California Pacific, etc.

Still, some months ago, my personal Holy Grail kept eluding me...

The chase started, a few years back, as all the quests for Holy Grails: I thought the item to be a myth, until I actually found someone who had it! And then I found someone else (who actually happens to be on this list ;) ) who also had it! Perhaps there are others? It's likely. Must I become one of them? Obviously!

Suddenly, the myth becomes reality and the search at last has a purpose. As with all the other items, I have faith it will eventually fall onto my lap. There is no rush, nothing to hurry or worry about.

And one day, it does. Shrinkwrapped. Brand new. I open it up (what an heresy!) and discover it to be as good as I imagined it.

Is the search over? No. One isn't enough. In the following period of time (weeks? months?) I got my hands on three more from the same source. Not one, not two, but three more. All brand 

Re: [SWCollect] Video Game Invasion

2004-03-30 Thread Jim Leonard
Has everyone grabbed this yet?  I'm taking it offline Saturday and it's a slow 
link so start downloading it *now*.

Jim Leonard wrote:

Okay, the documentary that everyone missed is online here:

ftp.mindcandydvd.com:/pub/misc

There is a modem-bitrate version and an ISDN-bitrate version.  I will be 
taking these offline in a week so please snag them now.  (BTW I'm going 
on vacation Sunday - Wednesday so I may not be contactable during that 
time.)

The documentaries were edited in an extremely busy fashion -- I 
counted the number of shots in a minute and it was over 30 (!!) so the 
video is constantly moving and changing.  As such, I didn't even try to 
concentrate on motion, but rather sharpness and clarity so that you can 
actually see detail in the video.  So the framerate on the modem version 
is about 4 fps and about 8 fps on the ISDN version, but hey, you can 
actually see what they're talking about instead of it being a blurry mess.

BTW Dan, I tried Quicktime -- Sorenson refused to hit ISDN bitrates, and 
the MPEG-4 didn't have audio... so much for that.


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Re: [SWCollect] And then one day, the Holy Grail is found

2004-03-30 Thread Edward Franks
On Mar 30, 2004, at 7:02 AM, Pedro Quaresma wrote:
[Snip]
And one day, it does. Shrinkwrapped. Brand new. I open it up (what an 
heresy!) and discover it to be as good as I imagined it.

Is the search over? No. One isn't enough. In the following period of 
time (weeks? months?) I got my hands on three more from the same 
source. Not one, not two, but three more. All brand new and 
shrinkwrapped.

http://www.dcc.online.pt/~c9707061/images/collection4.jpg

The quest is now complete.
	Congratulations!  That's one sweet find.  :)

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Edward Franks

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Re: [SWCollect] Video Game Invasion

2004-03-30 Thread Howard Feldman
I watched it already, that was cool, thanks!  Was it supposed to be in Black and
White or is my computer just messed?

Marco Thorek wrote:
 
 Got it the other day, but failed to thank you in time, so here it goes:
 Thanks Jim!
 
 Marco
 
 Jim Leonard schrieb:
 
  Has everyone grabbed this yet?  I'm taking it offline Saturday and it's a slow
  link so start downloading it *now*.
 
  Jim Leonard wrote:
 
   Okay, the documentary that everyone missed is online here:
  
   ftp.mindcandydvd.com:/pub/misc
  
   There is a modem-bitrate version and an ISDN-bitrate version.  I will be
   taking these offline in a week so please snag them now.  (BTW I'm going
   on vacation Sunday - Wednesday so I may not be contactable during that
   time.)
  
   The documentaries were edited in an extremely busy fashion -- I
   counted the number of shots in a minute and it was over 30 (!!) so the
   video is constantly moving and changing.  As such, I didn't even try to
   concentrate on motion, but rather sharpness and clarity so that you can
   actually see detail in the video.  So the framerate on the modem version
   is about 4 fps and about 8 fps on the ISDN version, but hey, you can
   actually see what they're talking about instead of it being a blurry mess.
  
   BTW Dan, I tried Quicktime -- Sorenson refused to hit ISDN bitrates, and
   the MPEG-4 didn't have audio... so much for that.
 
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  Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/
  Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/
 
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