[SWCollect] Gothos
Anybody else heard of this game? I picked up a copy this weekend in a thrift for a couple of bucks. No entry on MobyGames, and no active or completed auctions on eBay. It's a vampire/horror adventure by Microforum, 1997. M for Mature. Graphic adventure with icon interface. There's an attitude adjuster that you use in conversations to express yourself toward the other characters, instead of clicking from a list of possible responses. (Sometimes the results of this are unintentionally funny.) Also it has instructions on how you could take a digital picture of yourself and they would send you versions of the appropriate game files so your player-character would have your face. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Gothos
Yes, I have a copy. It's a FMV adventure game, supposed to be pretty bad, but relatively hard to find (that's why you didn't see it on ebay). If it's in the box you will find a buyer. In the shrink, even better. These people at gameboomers have invented a term called BAAGS (Buy All Adventure Games Syndrome). Stuart -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 25, 2004 12:26 PM To: Software Collectibles Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Gothos Anybody else heard of this game? I picked up a copy this weekend in a thrift for a couple of bucks. No entry on MobyGames, and no active or completed auctions on eBay. It's a vampire/horror adventure by Microforum, 1997. M for Mature. Graphic adventure with icon interface. There's an attitude adjuster that you use in conversations to express yourself toward the other characters, instead of clicking from a list of possible responses. (Sometimes the results of this are unintentionally funny.) Also it has instructions on how you could take a digital picture of yourself and they would send you versions of the appropriate game files so your player-character would have your face. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Gothos
Sure! I have a copy somewhere. I remember it being a not-uninteresting game with some quirky features (including the ones you mention) that was something of a cult favorite. (Though the "attitude adjuster" wasn't new; I recall something similar in an early-'90s3D adventure from Electronic Zoo called Galactic Invasion.) It (Gothos) used to be fairly common on eBay. It's also notable as one of the last gasps in Microforum's attempt to penetrate the US market (Maabus, Soultrap and Huygen's Disclosure). Peter "C.E. Forman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody else heard of this game? I picked up a copy this weekend in athrift for a couple of bucks. No entry on MobyGames, and no active orcompleted auctions on eBay.It's a vampire/horror adventure by Microforum, 1997. M for Mature. Graphicadventure with icon interface. There's an "attitude adjuster" that you usein conversations to express yourself toward the other characters, instead ofclicking from a list of possible responses. (Sometimes the results of thisare unintentionally funny.) Also it has instructions on how you could takea digital picture of yourself and they would send you versions of theappropriate game files so your player-character would have your face.--This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed tothe swcollect m! ailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect'Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: RE: [SWCollect] New Article from The Origin Museum
*** Umum.umm I'm speechless. Stuart *** Hehe--I'll assume that this is positive feedback, Stuart. Thanks for the compliment! ;) Yeah, I was stunned as well, and I hope that I conveyed that in the article. Also, thanks to C.E. for giving me the initiative to write about some of our 'adventures'. His articles are what inspired me to do these little bits on OUR site. If you haven't read any of C.E.'s previous work, please take a look: http://www.if-legends.org/~yois/backissues.php He's a terrific writer, and certainly entertains his audience--I print each one out, and share them with my wife! We even read them to each other on long car trips--his 'Detroit-Suck-City' had us laughing so hard, we almost had to pull over! :) Joe -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Retro PC game collecting officially became big business
Bah We all know what idiot was responsible for that growl :( -josh -Original Message- From: Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Retro PC game collecting officially became big business Sorry to call out another person (not sure if he/she is on this list), but one auction in particular that amazed me was: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4315item=8100294021rd=1ssPageName=WDVW Hugh -Original Message- From: Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Retro PC game collecting officially became big business I was waiting for things to die down a bit before bringing this topic up, but the last few weeks have brought an extraordinary amount of activity on eBayboth in the number of good, old PC games for sale and the prices being paid. My watch list has never been so full. In fact, Id say my watch list over the last few weeks was as long as the previous six months (maybe a year). At least 3 individual sellers had lots to offer: Hopey Rbgamehunter Carol!yahoo Combined with lots of one-off sellers. But what really struck me was that even with all the supply, the ending prices were just so much higher than Ive ever seen before. I would have expected prices to drop with so much stuff on the market, but it didnt happen. Things Ive seen go recently in the $10 - $30 range were going for over $100. Many of the usual suspects were bidding, but the most noticeable was Peter (sorry to call you out Peter), who by my rough calculations has dropped AT LEAST 10 grand in the last 2 months. In some ways it is really great to see games appreciating in value so much. Maybe well remember March and April 2004 as the months that Retro PC game collecting officially became big business. Hugh
Re: [SWCollect] Retro PC game collecting officially became big business
The economy has been picking up. I am trying to find a new IT position and things aren't so bleak any more, so I would imagine this translates to software collecting bidding/selling. Hugh Falk wrote: I was waiting for things to die down a bit before bringing this topic up, but the last few weeks have brought an extraordinary amount of activity on eBayboth in the number of good, old PC games for sale and the prices being paid. My watch list has never been so full. In fact, Id say my watch list over the last few weeks was as long as the previous six months (maybe a year). At least 3 individual sellers had lots to offer: -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Retro PC game collecting officially became big business
I was waiting for things to die down a bit before bringing this topic up, but the last few weeks have brought an extraordinary amount of activity on eBay both in the number of good, old PC games for sale and the prices being paid. My watch list has never been so full. In fact, Id say my watch list over the last few weeks was as long as the previous six months (maybe a year). At least 3 individual sellers had lots to offer: I noticed there's a lot more sniping than usual too.. could this be partially responsible for the higher prices? People sniping crazy amounts? I know Im guilty of that at least a few times. -- -- Howard Feldman, Author of The Search for Freedom A Computer Fantasy Role-Playing Game Visit its Homepage at http://home.golden.net/~feldman/SearchForFreedom/ Visit the Computer and Book RPG Museum at http://vgmuseum.chaoticmonkey.com/ Samuel Lunenfeld Research Institute -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Retro PC game collecting officially became big business
I was actually thinking along the same lines, and I'm sure I wasn't the only other one. Some of the prices make it seem like $100 for a game is nothing... I don't know, but to me, $100 is a lot of cash! The other thing I've noticed too is that there's at least a couple of bidders who seem to be doing more than just collecting. I think Bryron, for one, would still be ready to pay big bucks for a game even if he already had ten copies of it - perhaps an investment? I believe C.E. made a similar statement not too long ago regarding Starcross saucers and Suspended masks. I found this one particularly interesting since I got a copy off eBay only three or four months ago and I was the only bidder. Now all of a sudden, there's 10 bids: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4315item=3091242158rd=1ssPageName=WDVW I think the fact that knowing people are bidding high is driving more people to bid even higher. While I'm glad my collection is worth more, I wouldn't be overly thrilled if this hobby became a business. I'm not exactly sure it would be a good thing if every game sold for $100+. On the other hand, I'm almost tempted to sell some of my stuff at these prices. :-) Stephane Hugh Falk wrote: I was waiting for things to die down a bit before bringing this topic up, but the last few weeks have brought an extraordinary amount of activity on eBayboth in the number of good, old PC games for sale and the prices being paid. My watch list has never been so full. In fact, Id say my watch list over the last few weeks was as long as the previous six months (maybe a year). At least 3 individual sellers had lots to offer: Hopey Rbgamehunter Carol!yahoo Combined with lots of one-off sellers. But what really struck me was that even with all the supply, the ending prices were just so much higher than Ive ever seen before. I would have expected prices to drop with so much stuff on the market, but it didnt happen. Things Ive seen go recently in the $10 - $30 range were going for over $100. Many of the usual suspects were bidding, but the most noticeable was Peter (sorry to call you out Peter), who by my rough calculations has dropped AT LEAST 10 grand in the last 2 months. In some ways it is really great to see games appreciating in value so much. Maybe well remember March and April 2004 as the months that Retro PC game collecting officially became big business. Hugh
Re: [SWCollect] Retro PC game collecting officially became big business
I should offer him my copy of Muse BLACKJACK. At $450.00 its a steal (I think it cost me $15-20. Not sure. I was on a MUSE kick back then. Then I realized that they had more titles than I previously knew about and calmed down shortly thereafter.) On Apr 25, 2004, at 5:32 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: x-tad-biggerSorry to call out another person (not sure if he/she is on this list), but one auction in particular that amazed me was:/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4315item=8100294021rd=1ssPageName=WDVW/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerHugh/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger-Original Message-/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Sunday, April 25, 2004 2:28 PM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [SWCollect] Retro PC game collecting officially became big business/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI was waiting for things to die down a bit before bringing this topic up, but the last few weeks have brought an extraordinary amount of activity on eBayboth in the number of good, old PC games for sale and the prices being paid. My watch list has never been so full. In fact, Id say my watch list over the last few weeks was as long as the previous six months (maybe a year). At least 3 individual sellers had lots to offer:/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerHopey/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerRbgamehunter/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerCarol!yahoo/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerCombined with lots of one-off sellers./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerBut what really struck me was that even with all the supply, the ending prices were just so much higher than Ive ever seen before. I would have expected prices to drop with so much stuff on the market, but it didnt happen. Things Ive seen go recently in the $10 - $30 range were going for over $100. Many of the usual suspects were bidding, but the most noticeable was Peter (sorry to call you out Peter), who by my rough calculations has dropped AT LEAST 10 grand in the last 2 months./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerIn some ways it is really great to see games appreciating in value so much. Maybe well remember March and April 2004 as the months that Retro PC game collecting officially became big business./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerHugh/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger
Re: [SWCollect] New Article from The Origin Museum
Very cool, Joe! You won't rip the sealed ones open, will you? Please don't, they look so ..pristine. Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Thought people would be interested in seeing a new article. Please check it out, and tell me what you think. Go to my site, and click on the STORIES section--It's called,One Last Goodbye From The Creators of Worlds...-- I think you'll be pleased. Thanks for looking. ...Preserving Worlds... Joe Garrity Curator of The Origin Museum -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: Re: [SWCollect] New Article from The Origin Museum
** Marco Wrote: Very cool, Joe! You won't rip the sealed ones open, will you? Please don't, they look so..pristine. Marco ** Don't worry, Marco--we won't. :) The Museum specializes in 'preserving' Origin games. We already are very proud of our 'MINT-SEALED' collection, and these titles just add to them. Trust me, we always keep 1 copy of an 'opened' game, and 1 copy that is sealed, whenever we can. There was an interesting discussion some years ago in the newsgroups with another great collector, who shared a different viewpoint--They thought that collecting sealed games was ludicrous--that the games were meant to be PLAYED, and the extras were meant to be touched, read, and played with. I respect that opinion, but I disagreed. My thought is that some games go far beyond the concept of playing--they're ART. Keeping them in their original form is just as important as the game itself. The thoughts and concepts behind the original presentation of classic games is just as important as the game itself! I've said it before, and I'll say it again: It's more than cardboard and floppy disks. I have complete confidence that the data will survive--I'll leave that aspect to the collector-types that dig THAT aspect of collecting (Jim, Dan, etc.--VERY capable hands!) I prefer to distinguish what WE do as 'preservation'. It shows respect for the MEDIUM, as well as the MEDIA--and with that, a fuller respect for the hobby as a whole. Joe -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Retro PC game collecting officially became big business
I think it's great, although some of the prices do seem out of whack. Then again, they're worth what they're worth I guess. After all, they'll never be another "beginning of computer/video gaming" in the history of our world. I don't even think we can begin to understand not only the value but the significancetechnologically of the classic computer games we collect now will be regarded as far into the future. I think more and more people are realizing that owning these pieces of history are are extremely valid and desirable, especially in a society that is becoming more and more into gaming, computers and technology in general. I predict a new generation of collectors, those people who didn't grow up WITH the roots of gaming, but are now wondering and would like to hold a piece of them. Myself being someone who only collects games still in shrinkwrap mint/near mint, I'm willing to pay a lot more if I see one I've had on my watch list for a year or two and it finally comes up. And I steam like crazy when I get sniped too, and it only makes the next one that comes up (if and when) even more valuable. Brad - Original Message - From: Hugh Falk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:27 PM Subject: [SWCollect] Retro PC game collecting officially became big business I was waiting for things to die down a bit before bringing this topic up, but the last few weeks have brought an extraordinary amount of activity on eBay both in the number of good, old PC games for sale and the prices being paid. My watch list has never been so full. In fact, Id say my watch list over the last few weeks was as long as the previous six months (maybe a year). At least 3 individual sellers had lots to offer: Hopey Rbgamehunter Carol!yahoo Combined with lots of one-off sellers. But what really struck me was that even with all the supply, the ending prices were just so much higher than Ive ever seen before. I would have expected prices to drop with so much stuff on the market, but it didnt happen. Things Ive seen go recently in the $10 - $30 range were going for over $100. Many of the usual suspects were bidding, but the most noticeable was Peter (sorry to call you out Peter), who by my rough calculations has dropped AT LEAST 10 grand in the last 2 months. In some ways it is really great to see games appreciating in value so much. Maybe well remember March and April 2004 as the months that Retro PC game collecting officially became big business. Hugh
Re: [SWCollect] New Article from The Origin Museum
I won't startup the semi-annual archive/preserve debate again (it hasn't been 6 months since the last one :), but since we have a few new folks, anyone else do the 'media archiving' thing? On Apr 25, 2004, at 8:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Marco Wrote: Very cool, Joe! You won't rip the sealed ones open, will you? Please don't, they look so..pristine. Marco ** Don't worry, Marco--we won't. :) The Museum specializes in 'preserving' Origin games. We already are very proud of our 'MINT-SEALED' collection, and these titles just add to them. Trust me, we always keep 1 copy of an 'opened' game, and 1 copy that is sealed, whenever we can. There was an interesting discussion some years ago in the newsgroups with another great collector, who shared a different viewpoint--They thought that collecting sealed games was ludicrous--that the games were meant to be PLAYED, and the extras were meant to be touched, read, and played with. I respect that opinion, but I disagreed. My thought is that some games go far beyond the concept of playing--they're ART. Keeping them in their original form is just as important as the game itself. The thoughts and concepts behind the original presentation of classic games is just as important as the game itself! I've said it before, and I'll say it again: It's more than cardboard and floppy disks. I have complete confidence that the data will survive--I'll leave that aspect to the collector-types that dig THAT aspect of collecting (Jim, Dan, etc.--VERY capable hands!) I prefer to distinguish what WE do as 'preservation'. It shows respect for the MEDIUM, as well as the MEDIA--and with that, a fuller respect for the hobby as a whole. Joe -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] New Article from The Origin Museum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have complete confidence that the data will survive--I'll leave that aspect to the collector-types that dig THAT aspect of collecting (Jim, Dan, etc.--VERY capable hands!) I prefer to distinguish what WE do as 'preservation'. It shows respect for the MEDIUM, as well as the MEDIA--and with that, a fuller respect for the hobby as a whole. If I can add to this: I believe that the MEDIUM you write about isn't complete without the actual gameplay experience: Loading the game, looking at the title screen with anticipation, gameplay mechanics, looking at maps, consulting add-ins/feelies. I feel that it is imperative that the game be experienced before it can be considered truly preserved. So just collect two of everything ;-) -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
