RE: [SWCollect] Full archives are now online
I concur, I'd prefer it to be private. - Peo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Lulewicz Sent: den 17 juni 2004 20:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Full archives are now online I would prefer to keep the archives private (for members only). Or if you are going to make it public take out the authors name and e-mail addresses. -josh ___ Swcollect mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.oldskool.org/mailman/listinfo/swcollect
[SWCollect] The Warp Factor from SSI
Hi all :) I've got to ask, and hope that somebody more knowledgeable than myself will know the truth.. I'm trying to compile the history of SSI and this game is really bugging me.. It seems to be riddled in mystery. First of all, the box art it has (a pic of the USS Enterprise from Star Trek) has to my knowledge never been pictured in any SSI catalogs. That's the first question, the box art as shown in the catalogs, does it *really* exist? I know that many games have different covers in the catalogs, but that's so far been true only for NEW games, and in later revisions of the catalog, the real cover art is shown instead of the "prototypes". Not so with Warp Factor, however, it has the same alternate art in all catalogs I've seen it, stretching several years, so the prototypeanswerdoesn't make sense. Another very strange thing is that in the Summer 1986 and Fall 1986 / Winter 1987 catalogs, all of a sudden Warp Factor is displayed as a Rapidfire release and only for the IBM (the original big box is for Apple only). What the..!? So, let's ponder on these questions; 1) Has anybody actually seen the alternate box art for the original big box version for Apple, except that picture in the catalogs? 2) Has anybody actually seen the Rapidfire release for IBM? and slightly more esoteric: 3) If 1) doesn't exist, does anybody know why the real box art was never pictured in the catalogs? (The Enterprise cover) I would just love to know. Oh, and shameless plug I'd love to hear from anybody willing to trade or sell SSI stuff. /shameless plug Cheers, Peo
RE: [SWCollect] Ouch
I respectfully disagree. ;) Sealed is a flag, much like IM, MMC and so on. And surely you don't write FMMC for a Fine copy with MMC? Or perhaps NMSTC? That'd make it a lot more cryptic than necessary, imho. - Peo -Original Message- From: Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 10 maj 2004 17:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Ouch Sorry to be anal, but that's one of my specialties :-) -- Mint sealed is MS not M(S). Hugh -Original Message- From: Alexander Zöller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 6:34 AM To: BL; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ouch Aaargh... yes, that always makes me whince. There was an eBay auction way back in 2001 for a shrinked Kilrathi Saga, M(S). Apparently the seller was contacted by a guy urging him to check if the wrap was authentic and the game truly unopened. Not knowing what to look for, this poor chap cracked the wrap and happily added a note to his listing that, yes, everything inside was in mint condition. Alexander -Original Message- From: BL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Ouch http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4130364298 from the auction: Note: Brand new with all the original manuals/disks/box, etc. Only came out of the shrink wrap to be photographed. According to the box it works on any Apple II or III. Doh! Not the sharpest tool in the shed... Brad - Original Message - From: Vincent Joguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 4:12 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] YEAH-HA-HA! At 16:38 09/05/2004 -0500, you wrote: Heh, just realized, God I hope it's in English. B-) I'm almost certain it's a French version. Games are now always translated here, at least PC games, since about 1996. One of the first games for which I was forced to buy the translated version was King's Quest 7. I nearly haven't bought any PC game from France ever since (most recent is a L'Amerzone/Syberia pack). For some reason, console games are not always translated (for example Shenmue) or are multi-language. Vincent Joguin. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] I don't like this at all...
I agree. There are already quite a few people on eBay who sweep up as many bargains as they can, only to list them a week or two later for a much higher price. Kind of destroys the hobby, methinks. - Peo From: Stephane Racle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 10 maj 2004 18:28To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SWCollect] I don't like this at all... While I'm appreciative of the fact that my collection is increasing in value, I don't see high prices as a good thing. I know I don't collect for money... I wonder how many of us share your perspective? I'd much rather be able to add new items to my collection for reasonable prices. If the prices stay too high, then we may start seeing people who have no interest in the games, but are rather just there to make money - buy high, sell higher.StephaneBL wrote: Why would you hope it fades back to normal? I think it's great - if I thought that 50 years from now all the games I've collected were going to be worth the same amount of money, I wouldn't feel any urgency to collect. Sure it's certainly happened suddenly - and that is a little puzzling. I was thinking - perhaps this extreme surge has something to do with that history of gaming special on the Game Show Network. They did do what I would consider to be a fairly indepth piece on Sierra in it. Brad - Original Message - From: "Jukka Eronen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 3:55 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] I don't like this at all... Yeah this is crazy. And concerning. First the prices doubled and now there's been over 500% rise _from that_ in many titles recently. Is it perhaps something to do with the Drash-appearings? Anyways public awareness of these games and collecting urge has rised significantly lately for some reason, like has been pointed out. And maybe some investors are joining too. Surely hope this will fade away back to normal soon. Any predictions what will happen? Is this temporary or will the prices continue to go even more insane or stay where they are? When the high-enders get their own copies of given titles will they leave those alone in next time appearings or do they gather everything they can get, even multiple times? The prices will probably begin to tempt forgers to come out too at any time now (not to sound pessimistic ;). So get absolutely sure what you're bidding on (if one can even afford anymore). - Jukka -- http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/ - Synchronic Web - Original Message - From: Josh Lulewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:15 AM Subject: [SWCollect] I don't like this at all... What is with the sudden surge outrageous prices on Sierra stuff??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8103599251category=4 315sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AITrd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8103019861category=4 315sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AITrd=1 I mean Cranston I might understand...but Threshold!?!? What the heck is going on here? The economy isn't that good... -josh -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] I don't like this at all...
Oh, indeed! I didn't mean it that way. What I meant (but between the lines I realize now) is that it kind of kills the market at times. In the end all the bargains are gone, and all we're stuck with is some resellers who are only in it for a huge lift-up. That is what I dislike. As long as we have a living market, they don't damage anything except perhaps fool somebody now and then. But when the supply runs dry, they can and will inflate prices for no apparent reason other than greed, and that tends to kill off prospective buyers, forcing them to move elsewhere. This is very common here in Sweden and also throughout Europe, especially in the record collecting and comic book business (which I'm also part of). For some stuff, we often end up with some big collectors having most things they need, and a couple of resellers who charge way too much for the good stuff, so for anybody to really get into the collecting trade, they'll have to spend a bloody fortune. That's not good for our hobby, not at all. - Peo Jim Leonard wrote: There will always be people who want to make some money; I don't have a problem with that at all. Most hobbies have support business on the side, (scrapbooking, coin collection, comics, etc.) so this is to be expected with our hobby as well as it gets larger. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
Hugh Falk wrote: The only two EA games I know of that came in both Flat and Standard boxes are Wasteland and Starflight. However, I'm not a box-variation fanatic so it is possible others exist. Anybody know any? Another one that comes to mind is The Bard's Tale III. Since I'm asking questions: My Apple Wasteland has copyrights from 1986 - 1988 (depending on where you look). Does anybody have one with ONLY 1986? Did it actually hit the shelves in 86, 87 or 88? I think 88. It was released in 1988, I remember buying it the day it came out! :) I forgot which day it was though, hehe. Cheers, Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] First version of the CURIOUS Guide is up!
Me too. Perhaps it would be better, Hugh, if you just post a link to the Excel sheet so we can download it? Office Web Components is seriously buggy (still!), and works quite badly across versions / platforms. Or perhaps just save the page (not the workbook, the sheet you wish us to see) as a html file in Excel and post it? Cheers, Peo -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 1 april 2004 16:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] First version of the CURIOUS Guide is up! Jukka Eronen stated: It didn't load on me; needs Microsoft Office components and Explorer 5.01 (have IE 5.0 something); I got the same thing. I'm running IE 6, but Office 95 (but Windows 2000). No, my software combination isn't typical. 8) -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] SSI t-shirts / posters / oddbits
I was just browsing through a 1985 catalog from SSI and noticed two posters and a t-shirt I don't think I've seen before. Apparently there is a shirt with Broadsides on it, and two posters, one with Knights of the Desert and one with Questron. Did anybody actually see these in real life, or even better, own them?? I'd love to hear about that, and perhaps see some pics. :) While I'm at it, I'd be interested to know if there are any other memorabilia from this gang.. I've never seen anything from them except the games, so it would be fun to know! Finally, they did advertise for add-on disks for some games, like The Shattered Alliance Toolkit, and a bunch of scenarios for various games. I've never seen those either - anybody has something? I'd be interested even in disk images if you don't want to part with something original! - Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] I'll be the first to say..
No no, I didn't buy it!! I'd have to be a gigolo for months to afford that.. :D It was Peter Olafson in the US who bought it. - Peo -Original Message- From: Jukka Eronen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 22 mars 2004 09:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] I'll be the first to say.. WOW :O :O My prediction was $2867 so it was $738 off; document here: http://vintage-sierra.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96postdays=0postorder=asc; start=0 Congratulations to Per-Olof :) Excellent to get it here to Scandinavia =). Maybe I can sometime come visit and check it out since I'm a neighbour here from Finland :). I wouldn't be suprised if more will surface after this and I hope so (hopefully not counterfeiters though), because that is quite significant a sum, and people who might notice this (and especially those who have some recollection of sometimes having one) will start digging for these from attics, fleas etc. cash signs at their eyes. But I'd also like to note that at least for me and most of us collectors this is not about the money; it's about the nostalgia and art and getting a complete collection, so how can that be measured in money (though the limit is obviosuly one's current bank account). - Jukka -- Synchronic Web - http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/ f.ex. collecting pages: old adventure/RPG/other games (Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI, etc.), The Lord of the Rings -comics, vintage Walt Disney Home Video rentals, etc., a market place (trade/buy old computer games), my ambient/medieval/trance music in MP3, my fantasy art, and beyond! -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] I'll be the first to say..
- Per-Olof Karlsson / Peter Olafson - I'll be the first to say... - It found a great new home - it'll be immortalized in print soon.. Mmm, yeah, when you put it like that.. ;) And now you can figure out what I *really* meant, hehe. - Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] I'll be the first to say..
3605! I'm stunned. I'm happy for Edward of course, but I couldn't dream of it getting that high! In any case, it found a great new home, and most likely it'll be immortalized in print soon.. :) - Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Here we go.....
Sampling should be fine, especially with a Vic tape which probably doesnt have any turbo-loader thingie built-in (those tapes can be pretty tricky). Just make sure you sample in MONO! On some tapes you get better results by doing an 8-bit sample by the way, you might want to try that too. 8 bits, less room for nuances - less possible errors. At least the theory is sound. ;) Cheers, Peo From: Vincent Joguin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 15 mars 2004 13:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Here we go. At 07:12 15/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: In a message dated 03/15/2004 6:10:11 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To what medium did you copy it? WAV file or another tape? Another tape. Mmm. Not the best (although that's already a very good thing). Since you're not going to sell your original copy (I hope!), it's not a hurry, but do you think you would have the necessary hardware/software to digitalize your original tape? I think any recent Sound Blaster or equivalent should be enough, with some sampling software (some software included in Windows may be enough), and an audio cable from a tape player to your sound card. Trix (or anyone else), do you have any idea of how to *really* correctly preserve tapes? I'm more on the floppy disk side of things, so I may be wrong about the tape quality preservation... Vincent.
RE: [SWCollect] Here we go.....
Oh, and I forgot: dont use any form of equalization or Dolby noise reduction! That will certainly cause problems. From: Per-Olof Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 15 mars 2004 15:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Here we go. Sampling should be fine, especially with a Vic tape which probably doesnt have any turbo-loader thingie built-in (those tapes can be pretty tricky). Just make sure you sample in MONO! On some tapes you get better results by doing an 8-bit sample by the way, you might want to try that too. 8 bits, less room for nuances - less possible errors. At least the theory is sound. ;) Cheers, Peo From: Vincent Joguin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 15 mars 2004 13:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Here we go. At 07:12 15/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: In a message dated 03/15/2004 6:10:11 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To what medium did you copy it? WAV file or another tape? Another tape. Mmm. Not the best (although that's already a very good thing). Since you're not going to sell your original copy (I hope!), it's not a hurry, but do you think you would have the necessary hardware/software to digitalize your original tape? I think any recent Sound Blaster or equivalent should be enough, with some sampling software (some software included in Windows may be enough), and an audio cable from a tape player to your sound card. Trix (or anyone else), do you have any idea of how to *really* correctly preserve tapes? I'm more on the floppy disk side of things, so I may be wrong about the tape quality preservation... Vincent.
RE: [SWCollect] Here we go.....
The C64 tapes Ive sampled myself worked when done in mono but would give me loading errors if I tried stereo, so I would not recommend using stereo for anything. Cant say Im for or against 8-bit or 16-bit, I guess the best thing to do is some trial and error. J - Peo From: Vincent Joguin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 15 mars 2004 16:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Here we go. At 15:42 15/03/2004 +0100, you wrote: Sampling should be fine, especially with a Vic tape which probably doesnt have any turbo-loader thingie built-in (those tapes can be pretty tricky). Just make sure you sample in MONO! On some tapes you get better results by doing an 8-bit sample by the way, you might want to try that too. 8 bits, less room for nuances - less possible errors. At least the theory is sound. ;) That's correct when converting, but from what I've read on the Net, I'd recommand the full quality: 44100 Hz (or better, 48000), stereo, 16-bit samples, to a WAV file (of course, no MP3 or other lossy compression). Then, the file can be downgraded to mono 8-bit for conversion, but better keep the original file as a master. BTW, it seems Escape from Mt. Drash has been floating around as a tape image file. Anyone has it? Still, a good master sampled file is good to have before all tapes die... Vincent.
RE: RE: [SWCollect] Here we go.....
The image is out on the net, but I forget where. One of the Dragons has also converted it as well, into an IBM program. I'll look them up for you, if you wish. Joe If you can find the Vic 20 image Id be really happy! - Peo
RE: [SWCollect] Here we go.....
Go for it, Howard! :) Thanks a lot, Peo -Original Message- From: Howard Feldman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 15 mars 2004 18:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Here we go. I have the Vic-20 Drash emulator image file, I can send it to the list if you want, its quite small. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] California Pacific sales figures
I was just reading Shay Addams Official Book of Ultima, which was rather nice I think. One thing got me quite puzzled though: he is leaving me with the impression that CPC sold no less than 30,000 copies of Akalabeth, and a mighty 50,000 copies of Ultima!? Can this really be true? Am I misinterpreting what he wrote perhaps? If this is really true, I cannot for the life in me understand the prices on these games. Surely there cant be tens of thousands of hardcore Ultima collectors willing to pay several hundred bucks for these? On another note, Im sure you all have noticed that there is a CPC Akalabeth on eBay right now.. Nobodys mentioned it though, so I thought Id just say it, hehe. a puzzled Peo
RE: [SWCollect] Per-Olof Karlsson
I'm here! Will reply to you privately right now. The reason for my absence is mostly health-related I'm afraid, but I'm back in control almost, so hopefully I'll be out of the shadows real soon. Cheers, Peo -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 6 mars 2004 21:19 To: Software Collectibles Mailing List Subject: [SWCollect] Per-Olof Karlsson Hey gang, Anybody here heard from Per-Olaf recently? He bid on a bunch of my BidVille auctions but seems to have disappeared, hasn't gotten back to me after multiple e-mails. I hate the thought of leaving negative feedback on a member of this list, but it's been almost two months now. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] Weird Ultima auction on eBay
Did anyone see this auction? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=11050item=3075606212 Seems pretty peculiar to me.. Why would somebody have 10 copies of these thingies?? Apparently he's had more of these auctions out as well, suggesting he's got at least 10, possibly more. Smells fake all over if you ask me, eh?? I'm no Ultima expert so I can't see if the pic looks suspicious or not, perhaps somebody can? Cheers, Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] New Column Just Posted
Excellent read, C.E. (as always, I love your columns!) I remember the LGOP t-shirt all too well.. One shop here in Stockholm had them for sale at the time, for a whopping 59kr (about $8 at the time). I bought one, of course, and proudly wore it as often as possible ;) Then it just disappeared when I moved, so I no longer have it! Baah! Do I regret that or do I... It's almost as bad as not buying the Starcross saucer back in -84 (my local shop had three of them, priced at about $40). - Peo -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 2 februari 2004 00:38 To: Software Collectibles Mailing List Subject: [SWCollect] New Column Just Posted Hey gang, If you're subscribed to my YOIS mailing list, you already got my message about the new column. But I wanted to let everybody know I also have the full details of my battle with the Infocom T-shirt faker from last year (the asshole who caused me so much trouble). The link is through the main column, but you do have to be registered to access it. Trust me, this one is SO worth the read. B-) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Weird Ultima auction on eBay
Mm, upon closer inspection it starts to make sense.. I still don't understand how the heck somebody could turn up 10 cloth maps and runestones!? That makes no sense at all. Let's hope he's got a good answer! :) - Peo -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 2 februari 2004 03:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Weird Ultima auction on eBay I asked for a closeup shot of the map, and asked that multiple items be in the picture (I only see a picture of one set of items in the auction). I also asked how he came across so many. If I get a reasonable answer, I'll tag one and compare it to my known original. Yeah, it would be a drag to fake these. He has feedback from multiple users, his purchases are largely consistent w/RPGing, his account is ancient (if not a bit sparse on feedback but perhaps he is just bad w/follow-up). Ironic when you consider a certain online newsletter that joked about 10 Drash's suddenly appearing. On Feb 1, 2004, at 9:09 PM, Edward Franks wrote: On Feb 1, 2004, at 7:40 PM, Per-Olof Karlsson wrote: Did anyonesee this auction? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=11050item=3075606212 Seems pretty peculiar to me.. Why would somebody have 10 copies of these thingies?? Apparently he's had more of these auctions out as well, suggesting he's got at least 10, possibly more. Smells fake all over if you ask me, eh?? I'm no Ultima expert so I can't see if the pic looks suspicious or not, perhaps somebody can? First off, he might have screwed up the auction listing. It happens to us all. ;-) The four runes on the left look correct. I can't tell from the photo about the runes on the right. One should be an I and the other should be |` (that is, a upright I with a serif descending from the top to the right). That doesn't necessarily mean anything either way, though. Anyone with a set plus the availability of some aluminum and a stamp could easily churn out fakes. The cloth map itself looks right at first glance. That would almost certainly be genuine as the cost to making them is hideous. Richard Garriott has said that economic pressures cause folks to want to eliminate the map and that Origin always burned the map makers. That is, the map makers discovered that the maps were always a losing proposition and never did them again. -- Edward Franks -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] New Column Just Posted
It's almost as bad as not buying the Starcross saucer back in -84 (my local shop had three of them, priced at about $40). Whenever I find myself lamenting not buying things at their regular prices back then, I remember the good deals I *did* get Indeed! No use in mourning past stupidities. :) I've made many bargains since then, so it more than well evens out! For instance, I've just bought a sealed Suspended mask for $100 including shipping, and that must qualify as a bargain... Cheers, Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s
I recently built a new machine and attempted to get an old dual drive like this working but couldn't :-( Light was constantly on, like the cable was bad. I'll try again. That does sound like a bad cable, or even a good cable turned 180 degrees. - Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase
Well, I kinda see it as preserving a legacy. How many originally shrinked versions of a game will be around in fifty years? Yeah, of course I understand this view. :) I'd much rather preserve the whole package though. I like to make scans of the contents for instance, which is rather hard when it's shrinkwrapped. ;) I think one of the more important tasks we as collectors have is to document history. - Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase
Ive just told Stefan this, but for the rest: n All EA folder-type games were shrinkwrapped when new, so this is obviously a used game. n The tape on the disk sleeves is not supposed to be there, somebody probably but them there due to damages on the sleeve. n The tape on the right-hand side of the sleeve is a common thing for dealers to do when they re-sell used games. This is mainly done to prevent things from falling out of the sleeve _and_ from preventing would-be thiefs to snatch something from the inside n I agree to the mis-use of the term new Ive got many shrinkwrapped games that are obviously new but which are far from mint (crushed boxes, lots of price tags, tears in the shrink and so on). I think the best way to describe a really new game is MINT SEALED as suggested by BL. Cheers, Peo From: BL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 15 januari 2004 16:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase Is there an auction link you can provide? I don't know too much about Wasteland, but I do know that if it's not in the original shrinkwrap, it technically is not NEW. If he had it already, why would he open it? Some inexperienced sellers/collectors will call something NEW if it looks new, even if it's open. Technically, NEW isn't even an accepted term among collectors, and MINT SEALED is the equivilent toperfect condition, still in original shrinkwrap. Under accepted terms, this one would be MINT or VERY GOOD. - Original Message - From: Stefan Lindblom To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:12 AM Subject: [SWCollect] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase Hello group, My name is Stefan and I am gamoholic. :) I need some advice, preferrably from someone who knows what a NEW copy of Wasteland should look like. I have included a picture of a game I just bought. He declared it to be NEW, and said he got this one for christmas 88-89, but that he already had the game so he never played this one. First of all there is a piece of tape on the front cover, as you can see. It is appearantly a pricetag, which immidiately suggests it was bought used. There is also some kind of tear to the right of the cover, also visible, where there was some kind of tape. I assume some tape was used to hold the box together? (since it is a fold-out) Manuals appear to be new and not used. But regarding the disks. The two disc sleeves are put together using some kind of white tape, this looks very unprofessional but I have seen that kind of tape before on original old games so I am not sure. Some input would be appreciated, so I know whether or not to complain. /Stefan
RE: [SWCollect] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase
I support this view too. Shrinkwrapped items to me are interesting mainly because I know it's all in the box, and if mint also that it's all in perfect condition. Other than that, I'm not too interested. I can be found removing the shrink when I'm curious enough and don't have an open copy around. As long as my game is in excellent condition and complete, I'm happy! I do keep many of them still in wrap due to the financial aspect of things, but I wouldn't be too surprised if this attitude would go away much like it did with comic books. If you can't see what's inside, look at the stuff that came with it, then what's the point? Other than being an investment, I see no reason at all to keep it in shrinkwrap. - Peo -Original Message- From: Feldhamer, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 15 januari 2004 21:45 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase This thing with shrinkwrap reminds me of when the comic book companies started to polybag some of their comics...essentially to shrinkwrap them. There was a whole debate as to whether polybagged comics that had been opened were worth less than sealed copies. The consensus eventually was something like screw the comic companies, this is BS, I'm not going to start buying 2 copies of every comic to preserve the value of my collection while still being able to read it, so an opened polybagged comic came to have the same value as a sealed one. The comic companies pretty much stopped doing it too. Stuart -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase
I don't think it will go away, because computer game software has *always* come wrapped or sealed in some way. Hell, even Akalabeth came in a bag. That is completely different from comics, whose value was *never* tied to bags, always condition, until companies started bagging them. This is true. But still, what's the point of having a package you can't do anything with? It's about as exciting as having a comic or why not an ordinary book sealed in plastic. Guaranteed new, yes, but hardly interesting in any other aspect. (neglecting financial value now) - Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase
I'm not saying the sealed = more $$ formula is fair and just, but it is extremely accurate in determining how much something will fetch on ebay or in trade. I think it's unanimous that, in terms of dollar value, sealed non-sealed. So the scale was built with that in mind. Absolutely, sealed copies are always more expensive. Actually, I even like that, because it's easier to buy near-mint copies at more down-to-earth prices.. ;) - Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Another visitor..
Howard Feldman wrote: Stay awhile.. stay forever.. bwa-ha-ha-ha (sorry, couldn't resist) Hehe, I knew it was only a matter of time ;) Speaking of that game, is that perhaps the first time a sample has been used in a computer game? I would think so, but I'm not really certain. - Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] DOSBox: Getting DOS games to run easily
Wow! This is the stuff I dream about, thanks SO much for that link.. Never heard of this before! Wasteland here I come... -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
