Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Jon Shier via swift-evolution > wrote: > > So when is this transition happening? The sooner the better, as Mail > can’t really handle threads with large messages, like the recent evolution > threads about Foundation serialization and decoding. It just stop

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Sorry, didn’t see the other threads about this. Sooner is better but I’m glad to know it’s at least planned. Jon > On Mar 20, 2017, at 12:39 PM, Jon Shier wrote: > > So when is this transition happening? The sooner the better, as Mail > can’t really handle threads with large messages,

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

So when is this transition happening? The sooner the better, as Mail can’t really handle threads with large messages, like the recent evolution threads about Foundation serialization and decoding. It just stops rendering messages. Discourse would help a lot for these sorts of discussions

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

It misses most of the features for which Discourse emerged in the first place. There are no categories, no tags, the searching tool is quite primitive and the quotation look is actually worse than in an email client. Sorry but for me this is clearly a lesser experience than Discourse. On 18 Feb

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

This looks way better then Discourse. +1 from me. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Jan Neumüller -- GPG/PGP-Key: http://www.slayers.de/transfer/Jan_GPG_pub.asc > On 17 Feb 2017, at 21:45, Jose Cheyo Jimenez via swift-users > wrote: > > Hi Ted, > > Today I learned about https://esdiscuss.org/

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Hi Ted, Today I learned about https://esdiscuss.org/ which is like an archiver viewer for disc...@mozilla.org pipermail mailing list All their code is at https://github.com/esdiscuss This still preserves pipermail as the one source of

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Not sure if I got the "reply all" right… I’ll throw my 2c in. I like mailing lists. I like them, because they let me choose the viewer that I want to participate with(separation of presentation and data). I lose that with a web forum. And there’s something valuable about actually forcing people

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

~Robert Widmann 2017/02/10 3:35、Tino Heth via swift-evolution のメッセージ: > >> Easy explained - The problem rises indeed not from the added features but >> from the fp group that imposes it’s usage in the Standard libraries and “the >> swifty way”. I like many features of Swift (or I wouldn’t

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> Easy explained - The problem rises indeed not from the added features but > from the fp group that imposes it’s usage in the Standard libraries and “the > swifty way”. I like many features of Swift (or I wouldn’t be here) but I > don’t want to live in Haskel world. And for some reason these g

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> On Feb 9, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > > >> On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Ted Kremenek > > wrote: >> >> >>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Ted Kremenek via swift-users >>> mailto:swift-users@swift.org>> wrote: >>> I’ve been mostly silent in this co

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Ted Kremenek wrote: > > >> On Feb 9, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Ted Kremenek via swift-users >> mailto:swift-users@swift.org>> wrote: >> >>> I’ve been mostly silent in this conversation largely because I didn’t >>> realize it was leading up to a formal decision. I wish

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> On Feb 9, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Ted Kremenek via swift-users > wrote: > >> I’ve been mostly silent in this conversation largely because I didn’t >> realize it was leading up to a formal decision. I wish it would have >> followed the proposal process so it was clear to everyone that a decision

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> On Feb 9, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution > wrote: > > >> On Feb 9, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Jens Alfke via swift-users >> mailto:swift-users@swift.org>> wrote: >> >> >>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 3:41 AM, Jan Neumüller via swift-users >>> mailto:swift-users@swift.org>> wrote: >

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

The decision to move from the mailing list may have surprised many but the discussion on it has been ongoing very strong. Sorry you feel like you didn't get to voice your opinion which I believe everyone should have the opportunity to. I think many agree that email has it's perks on iPhone and iPad

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

@Jan: Your arguments are very subjective if not even insulting and derogatory to many people who invest a lot of time and effort in crafting those things you despise so openly. Here are just a few example quotes for you to reflect your language: "I despise fp“, „is so annoying“, "made Swift imo

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉🎊🎊 This is an awesome decision and a huge enhancement for the Swift community. Thanks (Core Team) for taking the time to entertain the discussion and move forward with what many community members have wanted. Alvarado, Joshua > On Feb 8, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Ted kremenek via swift-evolution

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Lots of emotions here. There is something I would like to point out that I don't feel is clear enough. The goal of this move is to move the community forward. The way it is moving the community forward is by increasing the scope of people able to participate while allowing new capabilities for

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Easy explained - The problem rises indeed not from the added features but from the fp group that imposes it’s usage in the Standard libraries and “the swifty way”. I like many features of Swift (or I wouldn’t be here) but I don’t want to live in Haskel world. And for some reason these guys becom

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

I have a simple question along this line: How does expanding the capabilities of Swift detract or impair its use in a fully OO manner? From what I have seen, if you want to use it in a strictly OO manner, great! If you want to use it in a strictly functional manner, no problem. If you want to us

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

This is just for explanation. I have given up for the content, the world does move in this direction and I can’t stop it. > On 9 Feb 2017, at 18:29, Cihat Gündüz wrote: > > @Jan: Your arguments are very subjective if not even insulting and derogatory > to many people who invest a lot of time a

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> On 09 Feb 2017, at 18:29, Cihat Gündüz via swift-evolution > wrote: > > @Jan: Your arguments are very subjective if not even insulting and derogatory > to many people who invest a lot of time and effort in crafting those things > you despise so openly. Here are just a few example quotes for

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Great news — and I guess it's a plus that Discourse isn't PHP but Ruby, as I expect there are quite a lot Rubyists around here. So, hopefully the issues that might exist (especially with the mail interface) can be addressed to make everyone happy. Although Discourse looks like a really good fit,

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Hi Ted, Thanks so much for taking time to discuss this with the team. I feel very confident this is going to be a big plus for the community :) David > On 9 Feb 2017, at 01:03, Ted kremenek via swift-evolution > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > There was a long thread on swift-evolution about wh