Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Jon Shier via swift-evolution > wrote: > > So when is this transition happening? The sooner the better, as Mail > can’t really handle threads with large messages, like the recent evolution > threads about Foundation

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Sorry, didn’t see the other threads about this. Sooner is better but I’m glad to know it’s at least planned. Jon > On Mar 20, 2017, at 12:39 PM, Jon Shier wrote: > > So when is this transition happening? The sooner the better, as Mail > can’t really handle threads

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

So when is this transition happening? The sooner the better, as Mail can’t really handle threads with large messages, like the recent evolution threads about Foundation serialization and decoding. It just stops rendering messages. Discourse would help a lot for these sorts of

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

It misses most of the features for which Discourse emerged in the first place. There are no categories, no tags, the searching tool is quite primitive and the quotation look is actually worse than in an email client. Sorry but for me this is clearly a lesser experience than Discourse. On 18

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

This looks way better then Discourse. +1 from me. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Jan Neumüller -- GPG/PGP-Key: http://www.slayers.de/transfer/Jan_GPG_pub.asc > On 17 Feb 2017, at 21:45, Jose Cheyo Jimenez via swift-users > wrote: > > Hi Ted, > > Today I learned about

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Hi Ted, Today I learned about https://esdiscuss.org/ which is like an archiver viewer for disc...@mozilla.org pipermail mailing list All their code is at https://github.com/esdiscuss This still preserves pipermail as the one source of

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Not sure if I got the "reply all" right… I’ll throw my 2c in. I like mailing lists. I like them, because they let me choose the viewer that I want to participate with(separation of presentation and data). I lose that with a web forum. And there’s something valuable about actually forcing people

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

~Robert Widmann 2017/02/10 3:35、Tino Heth via swift-evolution のメッセージ: > >> Easy explained - The problem rises indeed not from the added features but >> from the fp group that imposes it’s usage in the Standard libraries and “the >> swifty way”. I like many

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> Easy explained - The problem rises indeed not from the added features but > from the fp group that imposes it’s usage in the Standard libraries and “the > swifty way”. I like many features of Swift (or I wouldn’t be here) but I > don’t want to live in Haskel world. And for some reason these

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> On Feb 9, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > > >> On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Ted Kremenek > > wrote: >> >> >>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Ted Kremenek via swift-users >>>

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Ted Kremenek wrote: > > >> On Feb 9, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Ted Kremenek via swift-users >> > wrote: >> >>> I’ve been mostly silent in this conversation largely because I didn’t >>> realize it

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> On Feb 9, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Ted Kremenek via swift-users > wrote: > >> I’ve been mostly silent in this conversation largely because I didn’t >> realize it was leading up to a formal decision. I wish it would have >> followed the proposal process so it was clear to

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> On Feb 9, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution > wrote: > > >> On Feb 9, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Jens Alfke via swift-users >> > wrote: >> >> >>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 3:41 AM, Jan Neumüller via

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

The decision to move from the mailing list may have surprised many but the discussion on it has been ongoing very strong. Sorry you feel like you didn't get to voice your opinion which I believe everyone should have the opportunity to. I think many agree that email has it's perks on iPhone and

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

@Jan: Your arguments are very subjective if not even insulting and derogatory to many people who invest a lot of time and effort in crafting those things you despise so openly. Here are just a few example quotes for you to reflect your language: "I despise fp“, „is so annoying“, "made Swift

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Lots of emotions here. There is something I would like to point out that I don't feel is clear enough. The goal of this move is to move the community forward. The way it is moving the community forward is by increasing the scope of people able to participate while allowing new capabilities

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Easy explained - The problem rises indeed not from the added features but from the fp group that imposes it’s usage in the Standard libraries and “the swifty way”. I like many features of Swift (or I wouldn’t be here) but I don’t want to live in Haskel world. And for some reason these guys

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

I have a simple question along this line: How does expanding the capabilities of Swift detract or impair its use in a fully OO manner? From what I have seen, if you want to use it in a strictly OO manner, great! If you want to use it in a strictly functional manner, no problem. If you want to

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

This is just for explanation. I have given up for the content, the world does move in this direction and I can’t stop it. > On 9 Feb 2017, at 18:29, Cihat Gündüz wrote: > > @Jan: Your arguments are very subjective if not even insulting and derogatory > to many people

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

> On 09 Feb 2017, at 18:29, Cihat Gündüz via swift-evolution > wrote: > > @Jan: Your arguments are very subjective if not even insulting and derogatory > to many people who invest a lot of time and effort in crafting those things > you despise so openly. Here are

Re: [swift-users] [swift-evolution] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Great news — and I guess it's a plus that Discourse isn't PHP but Ruby, as I expect there are quite a lot Rubyists around here. So, hopefully the issues that might exist (especially with the mail interface) can be addressed to make everyone happy. Although Discourse looks like a really good