Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Oliver Hitz
On 10 Feb 2004, Robert Meyer wrote: that's exactly what we are about to implement at the moment. Unfortunately, it will take some more time, until we have tasted and set up everything. Besides what would you suggests for such a small one-purpose deamon (we are currently examinig Turnaway from

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Andre Oppermann
Daniel Lorch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, | If you don't have enough capacity to do the 5xx errors on the main | mail servers then setup another (small) machine and redirect (instead | of blocking) all connections to that box and let it emit 5xx errors. |

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Andre Oppermann
Daniel Lorch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, | | If you don't have enough capacity to do the 5xx errors on the main | | mail servers then setup another (small) machine and redirect (instead | | of blocking) all connections to that box and let it emit 5xx

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Andre Oppermann
Robert Meyer wrote: Hi, On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 10:15:22PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: Daniel Lorch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert, | From 217.26.52.23: | Trying 62.2.95.11... | Connected to mx.hispeed.ch. | Escape character is

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi | You don't have to use NAT for that. There are for more clever | ways of redirecting. enlighten me. daniel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi ok, improved version 1. our fake smtpd server, save as smtpd.sh #!/bin/sh echo '220 mx.hispeed.ch ESMTP' read input echo '550 Not today, spam-dude' exit 0 2. inetd.conf (or use it with daemontools/ucspi-tcp) 1025stream tcp nowait nobody /path/to/smtpd.sh 3.

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi that's exactly what we are about to implement at the moment. Unfortunately, it will take some more time, until we have tasted and set up everything. Besides what would you suggests for such a small one-purpose deamon (we are currently examinig Turnaway from

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, |How about tcpserver from http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html | | tcpserver -H 0 25 echo 451 Go away | | | Be careful, not every mail server accepts such an answer in | the greeting string. You have to provide 5xx answers to | mail from attempts as

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Andre Oppermann
Daniel Lorch wrote: hi ok, improved version 1. our fake smtpd server, save as smtpd.sh #!/bin/sh echo '220 mx.hispeed.ch ESMTP' read input echo '550 Not today, spam-dude' exit 0 There are many mailservers out there which do not recognize a 550 in the HELO/EHLO

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi, There are many mailservers out there which do not recognize a 550 in the HELO/EHLO answer. They will only give up when they get a 550 on either the MAIL FROM or RCPT TO command. I think we're getting there. Here is an improved version with just one caveat: When run through inetd it doesn't

Return 550 was: [Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed]

2004-02-10 Thread Maik Kuendig
Hallo, Daniel Lorch [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Not sure where to look for the bug. When executed manually this problem does not show up. Any bash/inetd-gurus here? :) Not realy guru, but I have get it to run on OpenBSD3.4/alpha/current, but I had to change some things. The problem was that

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-09 Thread Daniel Lorch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert, | From 217.26.52.23: | Trying 62.2.95.11... | Connected to mx.hispeed.ch. | Escape character is '^]'. | 220 mx.hispeed.ch ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0; Thu, 29 Jan | 2004 15:53:30 +0100 | | From 217.26.52.15: | Trying 62.2.95.11...

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-09 Thread Andre Oppermann
Daniel Lorch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert, | From 217.26.52.23: | Trying 62.2.95.11... | Connected to mx.hispeed.ch. | Escape character is '^]'. | 220 mx.hispeed.ch ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0; Thu, 29 Jan | 2004 15:53:30 +0100 | | From

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-09 Thread Andre Oppermann
Andre Oppermann wrote: Daniel Lorch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert, | From 217.26.52.23: | Trying 62.2.95.11... | Connected to mx.hispeed.ch. | Escape character is '^]'. | 220 mx.hispeed.ch ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0; Thu, 29 Jan

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-09 Thread Markus Wild
Now the users think their mails have been succesfully delivered because they won't receive a bounce mail until the mail expires in the queue (1 week). Quite frankly, that sucks. Uhm, normally they should get warning mails in between, unless you have changed common settings? At least that

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-09 Thread Oliver Hitz
On 09 Feb 2004, Daniel Lorch wrote: Now the users think their mails have been succesfully delivered because they won't receive a bounce mail until the mail expires in the queue (1 week). Quite frankly, that sucks. Is it still necessary to keep mails in the queue for one week nowadays? User

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-09 Thread Daniel Lorch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, | If you don't have enough capacity to do the 5xx errors on the main | mail servers then setup another (small) machine and redirect (instead | of blocking) all connections to that box and let it emit 5xx errors. | That can be a very small and fast

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-09 Thread Daniel Lorch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, | | If you don't have enough capacity to do the 5xx errors on the main | | mail servers then setup another (small) machine and redirect (instead | | of blocking) all connections to that box and let it emit 5xx errors. | | That can be a very small

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-01-29 Thread Stanislav Sinyagin
Hello Robert, Is there a legal investigation aiming to track the attackers down, and can we expect publishing of the investigation results? Is Cablecom the only target, or other ISPs experienced the same attacks? Thanks for your cooperation, Stanislav --- Robert Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-01-29 Thread Fabian Uebersax
EHLO, Is Cablecom the only target, or other ISPs experienced the same attacks? We're experiencing such large attacks every few weeks and there's not much you can do against it. The attackers use open proxies and infected home pc's to connect to the MTAs, each connections only scans for a

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-01-29 Thread Robert Meyer
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 04:19:36PM +0100, Markus Gebert wrote: In this situation, we had to start blocking IP-Ranges to guarantee the mailservice. We tried to block only dynamically assigned IP addresses, to minimize the impact on other users. Unfortunately, this was not always