After the thread seen on nanog regarding GBLX filtering/shaping ICMP
(without even telling their customers, including BGP customers), I would
like to have a bit of your opinion...
Do you consider this as:
1) normal.
2) unacceptable, cause they no more deliver full internet access.
3) acceptable
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Subject: [swinog] filtering ICMP...
After the thread seen on nanog regarding GBLX filtering/shaping ICMP
(without even telling
Hi Pascal
I don't consider it much harm aslong as icmp type 0,3,4,8,11,12 get through...
but you still have the dilemma should they filter - I would vote no, though
I see the possibilities and the strength in doing filtering in the core - it's just
the lack of trust in the folks that would do
3) acceptable if they would have told their customers in advance.
In case if it is an emergency they should inform the customer and set a
temp rule which could be remove by ISP request.
what is an emergency? I dont have any dDoS running on my link. Additionally
they filtered all their
After the thread seen on nanog regarding GBLX
filtering/shaping ICMP (without even telling their customers,
including BGP customers), I would like to have a bit of your
opinion...
I think you'll find that most ISP's have ICMP rate limiting
on their network.
Do you consider this as:
Title: RE: [swinog] filtering ICMP...
Shaping / policing the ICMP rate is cool...and helps reducing the impact of dDOS attacks...
Filtering is sh.t...
my 2 cents
Christian
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From: Pascal Gloor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Freitag, 29. August 2003 11:36
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I think its perfectly acceptable and I for one would be
happy to see my upstream filter things that potentially could
cause my customers to have network issues, customers having network
issues are customers not spending more money or doing business
and thats bad for everyone.
If a new
On Friday 29 August 2003 11:33, Pascal Gloor wrote:
In case if it is an emergency they should inform the customer and
set a temp rule which could be remove by ISP request.
what is an emergency? I dont have any dDoS running on my link.
Additionally they filtered all their customers, so it
2) unacceptable, cause they no more deliver full internet access.
Especially for BGP customers...
For ADSL/dial-up customers, it might be acceptable, if the customer has a
possibility to turn off the filters...
Cheers,
Viktor
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Hi,
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 11:50:38AM +0200, Pascal Gloor wrote:
Indeed, but I manage my network and get internet access. I ask my upstreams
to deliver internet access, and its my job to take care of my customers and
possible harmfull things.
Indeed, but I manage my network and get internet
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