Re: [swinog] Provider Class Backbone Routers

2003-02-14 Thread Pascal Gloor
I agree that english should be the prefered list language. On the other hand, Fredi is in line with the current SWINOG charter: The working languages are any official Swiss language plus English. Perhaps we should update the charter? We already defined the meeting language to be english, we

RE: [swinog] Provider Class Backbone Routers

2003-02-14 Thread Kurt A. Schumacher
P, Voting is ending usually in laws and regulations, control, blaming... Don't think this is what's required here. Please stay with the basics. Agreed? -Kurt. PS. For the other case use http://world.altavista.com/tr ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [swinog] Provider Class Backbone Routers

2003-02-14 Thread Pascal Gloor
Voting is ending usually in laws and regulations, control, blaming... Don't think this is what's required here. Please stay with the basics. Agreed? Sorry Kurt, SwiNOG exists since almost 3 years now, and there are rules that have been set since the begining. One of the rule is that any

RE: [swinog] Provider Class Backbone Routers

2003-02-14 Thread Kurt A. Schumacher
P, Highly appreciating what you are doing with SwiNOG and therefore the community, please don't take me wrong, guess all here _are_ respecting those rules and those persons. Just trying to avoid the unnecessary, nothing else. Other problems are waiting to become solutions... -Kurt. -Original

AW: [swinog] Provider Class Backbone Routers

2003-02-14 Thread Steven Glogger
Usualy such things are voted by rising your hand at a swinog meeting (pretty like LandesGemeinde (same word in french ;p))... and as I have some other things to get voted at the next meeting, I ll add this to the list hmm... isn't it so, that geneva and other cities are trying to get an

Re: [swinog] Provider Class Backbone Routers

2003-02-14 Thread Pascal Gloor
Highly appreciating what you are doing with SwiNOG and therefore the community, please don't take me wrong, guess all here _are_ respecting those rules and those persons. Just trying to avoid the unnecessary, nothing else. Other problems are waiting to become solutions... noflame Sure, if you

RE: [swinog] Provider Class Backbone Routers

2003-02-14 Thread Guentensperger, Robert
Title: RE: [swinog] Provider Class Backbone Routers Hi I think we can stop the discussion about the language. What Roger found in the SWINOG charter makes everything clear: The working languages are any official Swiss language p l u s English. I understand this in the only way, that i

[swinog] Friday like questions.....

2003-02-14 Thread Pascal Gloor
Completly out of subject, feel free to /dev/null the message Questions for boring fridays. 1) Do we have girls in the mailing list ? 2) If yes, geekgirls ? 3) What is the percentage of married vs. single girls in the mailing list ? 4) What's their average age ? 5) Do the SwiNOG girls

Re: [swinog] Friday like questions.....

2003-02-14 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
Pascal Gloor wrote: 5) Do the SwiNOG girls plan to get married with a SwiNOG guy? Pascal, I didn't know that you are _that_ desperate ... Would you like to join the AoE2 battle after Feierabend? SCNR F. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive:

AW: [swinog] Friday like questions.....

2003-02-14 Thread Steven Glogger
hi fredy Would you like to join the AoE2 battle after Feierabend? you play online games? weee cool :) list the games you have (age of mytholgy, etc..) maybe we can set up a swinog-friday-afterwork-gameserver :) -steven -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [swinog] Provider Class Backbone Routers

2003-02-14 Thread Nik Hug
From: Pascal Gloor [..] why not, but how will you garantee that someone doesnt vote 10 times using 10 different email addresses subscribed to the mailing list? [..] oh that's quite easy: everyone has to use palladium on a fritz-chip equiped thinkpad :-( n!k

RE: [swinog] Friday like questions.....

2003-02-14 Thread Kurt A. Schumacher
-Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la part de Fredy Kuenzler Envoye : vendredi, 14. fevrier 2003 14:21 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [swinog] 8-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: AW: [swinog] Friday like questions.....

2003-02-14 Thread Guentensperger, Robert
Title: RE: AW: [swinog] Friday like questions. And where the hell can i play that? :-)) Günti |-Original Message- |From: Steven Glogger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Freitag, 14. Februar 2003 14:36 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: AW: AW: [swinog] Friday like

RE: AW: [swinog] Friday like questions.....

2003-02-14 Thread Strina Nicolas
Shoot your ip ;) Otherwise if someone play CS you can go to 212.147.10.59, 212.147.10.60 Cu, Nicolas STRINA Nicolas IP Network Engineer VTX Services - Internet Service Provider Av. de Lavaux, 101 CH-1009 Pully [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vtx.ch

Re: AW: AW: [swinog] Friday like questions.....

2003-02-14 Thread John Morgan Salomon
Battlefield 1942. Anytime, anyplace, maggots. -John ps: Happy Friday :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/

Re: [swinog] Provider Class Backbone Routers

2003-02-14 Thread Roger Gottsponer
Wow, cool discussions... Voting is ending usually in laws and regulations, control, blaming... Don't think this is what's required here. Please stay with the basics. Agreed? Sorry Kurt, SwiNOG exists since almost 3 years now, and there are rules that have been set since the begining. One

Re: [swinog] Provider Class Backbone Routers

2003-02-14 Thread Peter Baumann
Roger Gottsponer wrote: Wow, cool discussions... Voting is ending usually in laws and regulations, control, blaming... Don't think this is what's required here. Please stay with the basics. Agreed? By the way... Sorry that I was the reason for this funny discussions :-) By the way:

Re: [swinog] Provider Class Backbone Routers

2003-02-14 Thread Pascal Gloor
Sorry that I was the reason for this funny discussions :-) yeah, that's all your fault! (joke) By the way: http://lucent.linuxnet.ch is working again ;-) Your hardware looks impressive :-) May I have one as home adsl router? :-P P. -- [EMAIL

[swinog] NPE-G1

2003-02-14 Thread Michel Renfer
Hi all! Which IOS do you use with NPE-G1 and seems to be stable? :-) regards, michel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/

Re: [swinog] NPE-G1

2003-02-14 Thread Viktor Steinmann
If you don't use PXF (turn it off!), you might want to try 12.2(13)T - but it depends (as always) on the features you need. It runs stable for me Cheers, Viktor On Friday 14 February 2003 16:13, Michel Renfer wrote: Hi all! Which IOS do you use with NPE-G1 and seems to be stable? :-)

[swinog] OT: AoE2 tonight

2003-02-14 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
213.144.129.169 from 18:30 ... F. -- ADSL - Bandbreite und eine oder mehrere fixe IP Adressen gibt's von Init Seven AG - http://www.init7.net/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/

[swinog] Possible job opportunities for net engineers and ops managers

2003-02-14 Thread Thomas Kernen
All, Apologises for hijacking the list for commercial purposes, but this may provide a few jobs to some people in our industry. This is an informal email with regards to a project I am working on which will be requiring a bunch of network engineers with a sound Service Provider experience + a

AW: AW: [swinog] Vaud strikes back - Episode 2

2003-02-14 Thread Steven Glogger
would it not be a crime shutting down the net? could be an interesting moral discussion :) -steven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Candid Aeby Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Februar 2003 23:34 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: AW:

[swinog] time stands still.

2003-02-14 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
ping swisstime.ethz.ch PING swisstime.ee.ethz.ch (129.132.2.21): 56 data bytes --- swisstime.ee.ethz.ch ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss traceroute to swisstime.ee.ethz.ch (129.132.2.21), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 eth1-0.r2.tix.init7.net

AW: [swinog] time stands still.

2003-02-14 Thread Steven Glogger
try: time.ethz.ch swisstime has sometimes problems... iroot@idefix(~) ping time.ethz.ch PING weasel.ethz.ch (129.132.97.15) from 81.94.96.66 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from weasel-rz-fast.ethz.ch (129.132.97.15): icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=6.89 ms 64 bytes from weasel-rz-fast.ethz.ch

AW: [swinog] Vaud strikes back - Episode 2

2003-02-14 Thread Steven Glogger
What about calling a strike and shut down the net for an hour monday morning? if you pick up our support phones then :) so, i wish everybody gn8 :) -steven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Matthias Geiser Gesendet: Freitag,

Re: [swinog] time stands still.

2003-02-14 Thread Matthias Geiser
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:43:47PM +0100, Fredy Kuenzler wrote: what do we now? is this apocalypse? No, swisstime, the reference clock for all our law enforced traffic snooping, is realizing that surveillance is a bad idea. Regards, Matthias -- Wer bei Word das bekommen will, was er sieht,

Re: [swinog] time stands still.

2003-02-14 Thread Felix Rauch
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Steven Glogger wrote: try: time.ethz.ch swisstime has sometimes problems... iroot@idefix(~) ping time.ethz.ch PING weasel.ethz.ch (129.132.97.15) from 81.94.96.66 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from weasel-rz-fast.ethz.ch (129.132.97.15): icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=6.89

[swinog] Random quotes using DNS TXT

2003-02-14 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi, I created this some time ago and thought someone might find it funny, so here goes my post: http://public.tsunamihost.ch/dnsquote/ Yes, I was bored :P -daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive:

Re: [swinog] time stands still.

2003-02-14 Thread Andre Oppermann
Felix Rauch wrote: While time.ethz.ch is reachble with ping, it's still not what you want as a replacement for swisstime: ... This means that time.ethz.ch is using swisstime.ee.ethz.ch as its own timeserver... For our own server we use the following time servers (from /etc/ntp.conf):