i hope so :9
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Auftrag von Olivier M.
Gesendet: Freitag, 29. August 2003 01:17
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Betreff: [swinog] loud noise outside @ TIX at 00h15 tonight :)
And light everywhere at the third and
Hello everyone,
we have to order a 45 Mbit/s point-to-point leased line (CLN) from Swisscom. Swisscom
is asking us if we want electrical or optical interfaces.
What do you recommend? In either case, what's the exact Cisco interface model number
(both eletrical and optical) for 7206 routers? I
i just have used the coax one:
get a PA-DS3 with BNC connector and buy a 10db attenuator 75ohm from any distributor
and put the attenuator on the rx port of the PA-DS3 interface.
if you don't use the attenuator, the clocking signal cannot synchonize.
if you have both side, pay attention to the
After the thread seen on nanog regarding GBLX filtering/shaping ICMP
(without even telling their customers, including BGP customers), I would
like to have a bit of your opinion...
Do you consider this as:
1) normal.
2) unacceptable, cause they no more deliver full internet access.
3) acceptable
i would say:
2) unacceptable, cause they no more deliver full internet access.
They told us, they did that to filter some worms. I can
understand this, but
we're an ISP and IMHO the filtering should be done at the edge of internet
not in the core...
i fully agree with that.
-steven
Hi Pascal
I don't consider it much harm aslong as icmp type 0,3,4,8,11,12 get through...
but you still have the dilemma should they filter - I would vote no, though
I see the possibilities and the strength in doing filtering in the core - it's just
the lack of trust in the folks that would do
3) acceptable if they would have told their customers in advance.
In case if it is an emergency they should inform the customer and set a
temp rule which could be remove by ISP request.
what is an emergency? I dont have any dDoS running on my link. Additionally
they filtered all their
After the thread seen on nanog regarding GBLX
filtering/shaping ICMP (without even telling their customers,
including BGP customers), I would like to have a bit of your
opinion...
I think you'll find that most ISP's have ICMP rate limiting
on their network.
Do you consider this as:
Title: RE: [swinog] filtering ICMP...
Shaping / policing the ICMP rate is cool...and helps reducing the impact of dDOS attacks...
Filtering is sh.t...
my 2 cents
Christian
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From: Pascal Gloor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Freitag, 29. August 2003 11:36
To:
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I think its perfectly acceptable and I for one would be
happy to see my upstream filter things that potentially could
cause my customers to have network issues, customers having network
issues are customers not spending more money or doing business
and thats bad for everyone.
If a new
On Friday 29 August 2003 11:33, Pascal Gloor wrote:
In case if it is an emergency they should inform the customer and
set a temp rule which could be remove by ISP request.
what is an emergency? I dont have any dDoS running on my link.
Additionally they filtered all their customers, so it
2) unacceptable, cause they no more deliver full internet access.
Especially for BGP customers...
For ADSL/dial-up customers, it might be acceptable, if the customer has a
possibility to turn off the filters...
Cheers,
Viktor
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Hi,
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 11:50:38AM +0200, Pascal Gloor wrote:
Indeed, but I manage my network and get internet access. I ask my upstreams
to deliver internet access, and its my job to take care of my customers and
possible harmfull things.
Indeed, but I manage my network and get internet
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