Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-08-04 Thread Michele Marazza
Arnold, Joining with what Pascal says, yes, you can wash traffic when you have some Mbps, not if you have 1Gbps.. (this fill anyway your links before the washing machine which, I suppose, is somewhere central located if you have many border routers). And yes, we have blackholing communities

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-08-04 Thread Arnold Nipper
On 04.08.2004 12:04 Michele Marazza wrote: Arnold, Joining with what Pascal says, yes, you can wash traffic when you have some Mbps, not if you have 1Gbps.. you can also wash traffic if it's 1Gbps. Arnold ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-08-04 Thread Sebastian Abt
Hi, * Michele Marazza wrote: Joining with what Pascal says, yes, you can wash traffic when you have some Mbps, not if you have 1Gbps.. (this fill anyway your links before the washing machine which, I suppose, is somewhere central located if you have many border routers). And yes, we have

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-08-04 Thread Nicolas FISCHBACH
Michele Marazza wrote: Joining with what Pascal says, yes, you can wash traffic when you have some Mbps, not if you have 1Gbps.. (this fill anyway your links before the washing machine which, I suppose, is somewhere central located if you have many border routers). Well, it depends on the

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-08-04 Thread Nicolas Strina
As far as i know Easynet France is using such solutions .. We should implement this next year too. Cu, Nico On 04.08.2004 12:33 Neil J. McRae wrote: agree with Arnold, and we've done close to 1G on our anti DDOS platform here. To do it on a big network does require money, time and effort but

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-08-03 Thread Nicolas Strina
Hello, No but i was thinking that you do the ACL by yourself instead of doing it automaticly .. Since it can append at any times it's nice to wake up at 3.00 am because of kiddies. And yes Arbor is a detection tool which is applying ACL's or other rules to the attacked node ... Btw with any

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-08-03 Thread Arnold Nipper
Michaele, On 03.08.2004 15:41 Michele Marazza wrote: Arnold, Nico, Let suppose to have Arbor or any other profesional anti-DDos tool and that the tool tell me: you have an attack of (almost) 1Gbps towards IP address x.y.z.w. What do you do now? You still have hundreds of Mbps coming

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-08-03 Thread Pascal Gloor
well ... a better solution is to redirect this traffic at the ingress point to go thru your washing machine (e.g. Riverhead Guard) and re-inject the washed traffic into your network. This works fine, as long as the DoS doesnt excees the ingress bandwidth. Above that you need other solutions,

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-08-03 Thread Pascal Gloor
passive interface default ? no, I have OSPF Hellos everywhere, that's why I ask maybe a bug or even a feature, who knows... I've opened a tac case. Just wanted to know if anyone had something similar.. and if they could solve it. Pascal ___

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-08-03 Thread Pascal Gloor
last mail had the wrong subject, sorry about that. Its about OSPF indeed. Pascal ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-08-03 Thread Arnold Nipper
On 03.08.2004 17:17 Pascal Gloor wrote: well ... a better solution is to redirect this traffic at the ingress point to go thru your washing machine (e.g. Riverhead Guard) and re-inject the washed traffic into your network. This works fine, as long as the DoS doesnt excees the ingress

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-08-02 Thread Michele Marazza
Dear Swinog, I would like just to precise what type of problem we encountered in the evening of Friday, I will not answer to all suggestions made by the comunity as I thing that for that, it would be nicer discuss it behind a beer at the next Swinog meeting :-). So, friday, there was a *HUGE*

AW: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-07-31 Thread Marcel . Leuenberger
for that. Cheers, Marcel Leuenberger Network Engineer Bundesamt für Informatik und Telekommunikation -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Nik Hug Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2004 23:38 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing

RE: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-07-31 Thread Michel Renfer
Fredy: No comment about the Swisscom national peering policy. Which peering policy? :-) cheers, michel ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

RE: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-07-31 Thread Michel Renfer
I hope the press will cover the outage and tell the audience what's wrong with the internet in Switzerland (hint hint) Bad things happens, when the carpet floor having their hands on peering stuff. Hopefully the situation with IP-Plus will change in the near future... cheers, michel

[swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-07-30 Thread Erich Hohermuth
We see some routing troubles to AS3303 (Swisscom). Anyone else ? Regards Erich -- * Erich Hohermuth IP Engineer - SolNet (AS 9044) PGPKEY-46A08FCB * * phone: +41 32 686 82 22 / sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * pgpiD4qLcuVqd.pgp Description: signature

RE: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-07-30 Thread Andr Schlapbach
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Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-07-30 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
Nik Hug wrote: look's bad. I can't reach admin.ch - and this two days before independent day. Maybe we should ask for a homeland security department? - their first task might be the deployment of a multihomed internet-link for our tax-receivers ... but maybe this is a blind spot for a major

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-07-30 Thread Andre Oppermann
Nik Hug wrote: look's bad. I can't reach admin.ch - and this two days before independent day. You know what? I think the DBA proxy server in the basement of the Bundeshaus broke down! Maybe we should ask for a homeland security department? - their first task might be the deployment of a

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-07-30 Thread Nik Hug
From: Andre Oppermann You know what? I think the DBA proxy server in the basement of the Bundeshaus broke down! but time.ethz.ch is still up - so all LI-Servers are still in sync out there ... all emails for Rorschacher and friend are waiting nicely queued up at provider side. Bad luck for

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-07-30 Thread Andre Oppermann
Fredy Kuenzler wrote: Arnold Nipper wrote: On 30.07.2004 23:51 Fredy Kuenzler wrote: And this on sysadmin's day. What a nightmare. Tell all complaining maybe s/on/because/ ;-) ... too much glck, glck, glck Don't think so. Maybe the AS3303 sysadmins did not get any appreciation, so

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-07-30 Thread Pascal Gloor
At least they confirm it now. http://www.ip-plus.net/network/current_problems_set.en.html confirmed once working again ;-) we want pering!!! ;-P Have a nice sysadmin weekend ;) Pascal ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-07-30 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
Andre Oppermann wrote: sbb.ch works for me, but have a look at the traceroute ;-) oh I didn't say it does not work ... traceroute to www.sbb.ch (193.192.251.7), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 core1.pipeline.ch (62.48.0.1) 2 sl-gw10-zur-2-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.9.13) 3

Re: [swinog] AS3303 Routing Problem ?

2004-07-30 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
Pascal Gloor wrote: At least they confirm it now. http://www.ip-plus.net/network/current_problems_set.en.html confirmed once working again ;-) we want pering!!! ;-P indeed. I hope the press will cover the outage and tell the audience what's wrong with the internet in Switzerland