Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification for (Protestant) French Bibles?

2011-07-15 Thread Chris Little
On Jul 15, 2011, at 0:21, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Given my careful observations about the *canonical Psalm titles* in French Bibles, that they can occupy either (a) only part of verse 1, or (b) all of verse 1, or (b) both verses 1 2 The questions arises as to how this

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod unhappy with New Testament osisIDs

2011-07-13 Thread Chris Little
On 7/13/11 8:15 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:03 AM, David Haslamdfh...@googlemail.com wrote: You actually meant imp2vs for the latter. It has such an illogical name! I'm not so sure it's illogical. The 'imp' format seems to need a little extra help knowing whether

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod unhappy with New Testament osisIDs

2011-07-13 Thread Chris Little
On 7/13/11 7:32 AM, DM Smith wrote: I'm wondering whether it would make sense to have the ability to specify 2 different v11ns: One for the OT, the other for the NT. I think it would be a trivial change to the SWORD engine. Maybe a bit tougher for osis2mod and imp2mod. It's trivial

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod unhappy with New Testament osisIDs

2011-07-12 Thread Chris Little
You're using the wrong versification system for that Bible. MT means Masoretic Text, which is an OT-only versification system. So it is correct, that isn't a valid osisID for that system. I'm not sure which one will work for you, but NRSV, Synodal, or German would be the first ones I would

Re: [sword-devel] Russian russynodal (prize for maximum use of negation?)

2011-07-10 Thread Chris Little
On 7/10/2011 12:56 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: On 07/09/2011 10:07 PM, Chris Little wrote: Doesn't And Bible not support av11n? If it doesn't, I would not That's a *lot* of doesn't and not -- rewriting this with fewer negations, for ease of parsing, would be good. I think you just won

Re: [sword-devel] Russian russynodal

2011-07-09 Thread Chris Little
On 7/9/2011 1:46 PM, Martin Denham wrote: I loaded the new russynodal module from ftp://ftp.crosswire.org/pub/sword/avraw into And Bible recently and it seems to look fine. Doesn't And Bible not support av11n? If it doesn't, I would not recommend making the avraw repo available to And Bible

Re: [sword-devel] Catholic Versification - Prologue of Sirach, Lamentations

2011-06-18 Thread Chris Little
On Jun 18, 2011, at 8:16, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Chris, Thanks for doing the big move. :) I'm still in the midst of setting up the av repo to act more like the main public repo, but am currently dealing with some hardware issues on my desktop system, so I don't have

Re: [sword-devel] Perseus

2011-06-17 Thread Chris Little
The dictionaries are already available for Sword (beta repo, I believe), excluding that which isn't public domain. They do need an update to TEI P5, but the conversion isn't particularly trivial. --Chris On 6/16/2011 3:09 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: Have any of us looked diligently at the

Re: [sword-devel] Catholic Versification - Prologue of Sirach, Lamentations

2011-06-17 Thread Chris Little
On Jun 17, 2011, at 9:21, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: Mike Hart just_mik...@yahoo.com writes: I'm working on importing the Catholic Public Domain Bible. There is already a CPDV module, in the Crosswire Experimental repository. I just moved it over to the av repo, along

Re: [sword-devel] Sorani, Azeri and Arabic

2011-06-15 Thread Chris Little
On Jun 15, 2011, at 15:43, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Hi guys, I have just now submitted three new modules which were a while in the making. From Biblica: Sorani - the Kurdish language mostly spoken in Iraq Kitab El Hayat - a new Arabic version And from Elam

Re: [sword-devel] mod2zmod usage

2011-06-11 Thread Chris Little
Mod2zmod requires that the (uncompressed) module be installed, either in the same place as all of your other modules or somewhere else within the SWORD path. Then you can use the module name as the modname parameter. The module name is the name in [ ] brackets at the beginning of the .conf.

Re: [sword-devel] Sword 1.6.x and various frontends

2011-05-24 Thread Chris Little
Since the NRSV varies from the KJV by exactly 2 verses, I would recommend just switching to KJV in osis2mod. --Chris On May 24, 2011, at 9:11, Luke Schroeder l...@motimail.com wrote: I'm slowly but surely working on getting our translation's electronic bible published. I can only install

Re: [sword-devel] Updates of Russian locales

2011-05-24 Thread Chris Little
Have you observed that these abbreviations do not currently work? Many of these additions (as well as many of the existing entries) differ only in casing or are abbreviations that are simply unnecessary, because the mapper would already map them to the correct book. --Chris On May 24, 2011,

Re: [sword-devel] BREW Development?

2011-04-18 Thread Chris Little
I admit, I don't see any value to all of the space wasted to say we don't support this platform, we don't have any content on this topic in the wiki yet, or here's some format that is irrelevant to Sword. It just makes it more difficult to find relevant content that actually has been written.

Re: [sword-devel] Has the Russian Synodal Translation been removed?

2011-03-26 Thread Chris Little
Yes, unfortunately it was discovered that this module contained copyrighted content. The non-copyrighted portions remain available in the RusSynodal module that was intended to replace this in any case. --Chris On 3/25/2011 12:18 PM, Martin Denham wrote: Hi, The Russian Synodal Translation

Re: [sword-devel] Problem with Hebrew and English and Strongs in SWORD Parallel view (RtL and LtR)

2011-02-25 Thread Chris Little
If you intended Hebrew text to come through, it didn't. You aren't very specific about which front end you're using, but I assume you meant The SWORD Project for Windows (BibleCS). It has a significantly different text layout system relative to other front ends, so if you meant that front end,

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire news

2011-02-14 Thread Chris Little
On 2/14/2011 9:14 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Von: David Haslamdfh...@googlemail.com How about General iso Core ? I said, if we wait long enough someone will come up with something clever. :-) Thanks David Peter May I recommend Community instead of General? Alternatives might be

[sword-devel] resolution (was: Re: CrossWire news)

2011-02-14 Thread Chris Little
I thought I saw some mention of problems viewing the new news page on lower resolution screens, but now can't find the thread. There's definitely a problem with the right sidebar in narrow windows, since it covers the right side of the news frame. On iPhone, it covers most of the User Software

Re: [sword-devel] Unusual markup in the Treasury of David

2011-01-27 Thread Chris Little
On 1/27/2011 5:57 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Von: Jonathan Morganjonmmor...@gmail.com Is this formatting what was intended, or is it just one of those things? I think this is a) an ancient module and b) a clear demonstration what happens when modules go in to the repos without

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-11 Thread Chris Little
This is an excellent idea, but I worry about BibTeX being the wrong format to encourage academic use. I love LaTeX, personally. I just spent a day putting together a reader for my class in LaTeX. But I'm probably in a minority here, and outside of math sciences, I believe almost no one uses

Re: [sword-devel] Is Delitzsch Hebrew NT available?

2011-01-03 Thread Chris Little
On 1/3/2011 2:24 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: On 01/01/11 20:36, Martin Denham wrote: While working on Hebrew bible display in And Bible an Israeli contact asked if the Delitzsch Hebrew NT is available. I can't see anything in the CrossWire Sword modules nor in the Xiphos module list so I

Re: [sword-devel] Google eBooks

2010-12-06 Thread Chris Little
On 12/6/2010 9:34 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Google Books-- what in its previous incarnation became http://print.google.com -- has been re-issued as an an online eBook store: http://books.google.com/help/ebooks/overview.html How does this affect us, and could we build a ModDrv for the Google

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-30 Thread Chris Little
On 11/30/2010 6:58 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Chris Littlechris...@crosswire.org wrote: It's also worth noting that only the OSIS and TEI counts are likely to increase much in the future. For your work, perhaps. But with the current state of OSIS vs ThML

Re: [sword-devel] Converting Formats (was Re: Config file for thml module)

2010-11-30 Thread Chris Little
On 11/30/2010 2:38 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: I realize you'll probably be working off of plenty of source texts, but for those where the source text might not exist or for any other number of reasons your conversion might go a little faster if the filters in the engine were in top shape -

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Chris Little
On 11/29/2010 2:18 PM, David Haslam wrote: I suspect that thml2osis.xslt is now quite old. The README says it was maintained by Luke Plant. Last time we heard from him (on any topic) in this mailing list was May 14, 2009. Indeed, that isn't the converter that CCEL used. Now that I think

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Chris Little
On 11/29/2010 2:25 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: xml2gbs is the wrong utility. I don't even remember if that is the proper utility for anything or if it has been superseded, but it is definitely the wrong utility for him. xml2gbs is the tool for importing valid ThML OSIS freeform books into

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-28 Thread Chris Little
There are a couple of further complications to any copyright claim on CCEL content (at least content produced prior to their change of policy). First, they were distributing all of that content clearly labeled as public domain. This is closely akin to copyfraud, if not necessarily the typical

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-26 Thread Chris Little
On 11/26/2010 1:24 PM, mmfma...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this great software. I have an old thml file and I want to create a module to open it in xiphos. The command I ran for this was: xml2gbs -fT ~/path/to/file.thml modulename The module seems OK, I get the following files:

Re: [sword-devel] forwarding sword-support to sword-devel

2010-11-16 Thread Chris Little
to reflect this? -DJ On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Jonathan Marsdenjmars...@fastmail.fm mailto:jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: Chris, On 11/15/2010 6:15 AM, Chris Little wrote: Barry, please do not cross-post sword-support mail to sword-devel, especially not with users

Re: [sword-devel] Dexios and libsword - license incompatibility?

2010-11-16 Thread Chris Little
On 11/15/2010 11:42 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Dexios uses libsword, but is licensed as GPL3, which is incompatible with libsword's license AFAICT. Or did I get this wrong? I have looked for a contact, also searched this list for hints who the developer could be, but have been unsuccessful.

[sword-devel] forwarding sword-support to sword-devel (was: Re: [Fwd: [sword-support] program doesn't work on windows 7])

2010-11-15 Thread Chris Little
Barry, please do not cross-post sword-support mail to sword-devel, especially not with users' personal information left intact. It seems like every 6 months or so I have to repeat this request. Sword-devel is a publicly archived mailing list. Sword-support is a private list and people emailing

Re: [sword-devel] Display of bookGroup titles?

2010-11-13 Thread Chris Little
On Nov 13, 2010, at 11:40, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: btw. I'm having good success using import format with IMP2VS, as the Bible source text I'm working on has very few features, all of which are adequately supported by including OSIS elements within the IMP file. It

Re: [sword-devel] RSS feeds and news page

2010-11-11 Thread Chris Little
In general, this isn't what I had pictured from the suggestion of aggregating RSS feeds from the front-end projects. The page, as it is, looks essentially like pageflakes or iGoogle, and I think that kind of functionality is better left to those sites. What I had thought you were suggesting

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-08 Thread Chris Little
On 11/8/2010 1:17 AM, Caleb Maclennan wrote: Chris you mention the issue of balancing devel news / nightly snapshot type updates and releases that the public aught to be informed about. I realize this is an issue, but it was pointed out just last week on this list that the information for

Re: [sword-devel] RusSynodal in experimental

2010-11-08 Thread Chris Little
On 11/8/2010 5:11 AM, Konstantin Maslyuk wrote: Sorry me too. Now i almost happy, Thank you. I don't know reason why emptyvss return no results for RusSynodal but i know that Ps.114.9 is verse without content. Ps.114.8 should be broken apart before Буду ходить пред л... This is how

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-06 Thread Chris Little
On 11/6/2010 3:49 AM, David Haslam wrote: We have an ftpmirror that does not keep track of updates to scripts and other software tools that we host. What you're referring to here (linking directly to the SVN versions of perl scripts that we maintain) would be akin to replacing every single

Re: [sword-devel] RusSynodal in experimental

2010-11-06 Thread Chris Little
Sorry, the update that was posted earlier wasn't intended to be published or downloaded by anyone, since I was still in the middle of testing (both it and the updated Windows InstallManager.exe). The current updates to the Synodal and OCS Elizabeth Bibles are tested and should be correct. On

Re: [sword-devel] Marking transChange within a w ?

2010-11-05 Thread Chris Little
On 11/5/10 11:07 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Von: David Haslamd.has...@ukonline.co.uk I just want everyone to know that I have added an issue in SWORD bugs. http://www.crosswire.org/bugs/browse/API-133 Alternative method to mark translation changes does not lead to italics in SWORD

Re: [sword-devel] Marking transChange within a w ?

2010-11-05 Thread Chris Little
On 11/5/10 11:35 AM, David Haslam wrote: The example from Mt 21:31 illustrates one of the 17 instances. w lemma=strong:G3588 strong:G3962 morph=robinson:T-GSM robinson:N-GSM src=8 9ofseg subType=x-added type=x-transChangehis/seg father/w? (Disclaimer: I don't know Greek, and I'm partly just

Re: [sword-devel] Marking transChange within a w ?

2010-11-05 Thread Chris Little
On 11/5/2010 12:09 PM, DM Smith wrote: On 11/05/2010 02:48 PM, Chris Little wrote: On 11/5/10 11:35 AM, David Haslam wrote: The example from Mt 21:31 illustrates one of the 17 instances. w lemma=strong:G3588 strong:G3962 morph=robinson:T-GSM robinson:N-GSM src=8 9ofseg subType=x-added

Re: [sword-devel] Diatheke - output_format RTF and Red Words of Christ?

2010-11-03 Thread Chris Little
Diatheke outputs portions of modules with various toggle and rendering filters applied. That's all it does, and all I intend that it ever do. It can only convert from input format X to output format Y if a conversion path from X to Y exists. So conversion from OSIS/ThML/GBF to

Re: [sword-devel] Diatheke - output_format RTF and Red Words of Christ?

2010-11-03 Thread Chris Little
On 11/3/2010 5:41 AM, David Haslam wrote: This thread should initially have been entitled Diatheke - output_format RTF and Red Words of Christ? Using output_format HTML does not produce Red Words of Christ either! diatheke -b KJV -o x -f HTML -k Mt 1-28Export\KJV\KJV.Mt.diatheke.html btw.

Re: [sword-devel] Diatheke - support for Ruby?

2010-11-02 Thread Chris Little
Good point, David. I was thinking only of Diatheke's ability to transform the xlit attribute to a rendering format (because it will use updated OSISHTML(HREF)). I wasn't thinking of the ability to toggle Ruby (via OSISRuby), which still requires handling in Diatheke. --Chris On 10/30/10 5:08

Re: [sword-devel] Diatheke - support for Ruby?

2010-10-30 Thread Chris Little
On 10/30/2010 12:59 AM, David Haslam wrote: Ruby markup, as exemplified by the Japanese modules in our beta repository, uses the following syntax: $$$Genesis 1:1 はじめにw gloss=かみ神/wはw gloss=てん天/wとw gloss=ち地/wとをw gloss=そうぞう創造/wされた。 Does diatheke support thew gloss=./w markup? i.e. If one

Re: [sword-devel] Diatheke - transliteration option ?

2010-10-29 Thread Chris Little
On 10/28/2010 11:48 PM, David Haslam wrote: Is there a documented list of scripts that are supported by diatheke? For most of us Latin is certainly relevant, yet . Can one transliterate [say] from simplified Chinese into Cyrillic, or from Hebrew into Devanagari? David It depends on

Re: [sword-devel] Diatheke - transliteration option ?

2010-10-28 Thread Chris Little
The -t option is for specifying a target transliteration script. Just add -t Latin, as in the 2nd usage example, to transliterate to Latin. --Chris On 10/28/2010 4:28 AM, David Haslam wrote: In the help for Diatheke, I see no mention of an option to output transliteration. Could Diatheke be

Re: [sword-devel] Hyphenation in the context of narrow displays

2010-10-28 Thread Chris Little
I suspect these modules don't include paragraph marking other than a blank line encoded via two linebreaks, so it might be slightly difficult to detect paragraphs. It's better if we just re-issue this content, since it is truly ancient and it looks bad it pretty much every front end. (Just

Re: [sword-devel] Diatheke web-page needs updating

2010-10-28 Thread Chris Little
It's definitely not abandonware. I wouldn't necessarily even say it lacks a maintainer. A number of people have stepped up to do minor maintenance, and if major needs cropped up, I'd sit down and do the work. We keep it working with the latest release of Sword and do releases with every

Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs and LZSS compression?

2010-10-22 Thread Chris Little
On 10/22/2010 4:13 AM, David Haslam wrote: No response yet! Is this something needing fixing in 1.6.2 ? Since we don't use LZSS, no it doesn't need to be fixed. (I also don't think there are any problems unique to the LZSS compressor. Running imp2vs with -Z, I get correct-sized files,

Re: [sword-devel] Apocrypha/Deutercanonical Books

2010-10-22 Thread Chris Little
On 10/21/2010 2:36 PM, Karl Winterling wrote: What's the current status of work on supporting the Apocrypha or Deutercanonical Books? I'm willing to work on this and possibly producing a full DRC (or KJV with Apocrypha, or LXX) module. I haven't looked at the source code, but supporting a

Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs and LZSS compression?

2010-10-22 Thread Chris Little
On 10/22/2010 4:36 AM, David Haslam wrote: Thanks Chris, I saw correct filesizes too, but I can't see any module content in a front-end, e.g. Xiphos. If there's really a problem, it's still no reason to hold 1.6.2. If there's a problem, my suggestion would be to remove LZSS altogether

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.6.2 Released

2010-10-22 Thread Chris Little
On 10/22/2010 2:20 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Tagged and bundled, officially at the usual places: ftp://crosswire.org/pub/sword/source/v1.6/sword-1.6.2.tar.gz http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/source/v1.6/sword-1.6.2.tar.gz Thanks again for everyone involved. May God use this to

[sword-devel] CrossWire on Facebook

2010-10-22 Thread Chris Little
I hooked up our RSS feeds (news, modules, beta modules) to the CrossWire fan page on Facebook. So, now any updates to any of those 3 feeds will publish to Facebook, as well as Twitter. It looks like it's already garnering some attention from our existing fans.

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire on Facebook

2010-10-22 Thread Chris Little
On 10/22/2010 9:10 PM, chrisbry...@ucla.edu wrote: How about http://identi.ca where all the geeks live? I don't really see the point of identi.ca. It seems like Twitter, but with fewer people and a bunch of unnecessary complication/clutter. That said, since TwitterFeed supports StatusNet,

Re: [sword-devel] 1.6.2

2010-10-21 Thread Chris Little
On 10/20/2010 2:36 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: OK Karl, David, Greg, Out of suspicion from your zLD comment, I added a delete (which should have been there anyway) for the module in imp2mod before exiting. There is also a bug in the compressed module code that crops up by using osis2mod.

Re: [sword-devel] Chinese PinYin, OSIS, SWORD and front-ends

2010-10-19 Thread Chris Little
On 10/19/2010 1:54 PM, Matthew Talbert wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:19 AM, David Haslamd.has...@ukonline.co.uk wrote: Something to ponder for the future then, maybe? See �http://crosswire.org/wiki/Talk:Transliteration http://crosswire.org/wiki/Talk:Transliteration Thanks, Chris, for

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS quote marker attribute type=x-doNotGeneratePunctuation

2010-10-16 Thread Chris Little
On 10/16/10 11:03 AM, David Haslam wrote: The fact that mod2osis = osis2mod roundtrip is not guaranteed to be lossless may have put people off before now. That there is a lossless roundtrip via IMP format may be news to many folk. mod2imp followed by imp2(vs|ld|gbs) is not guaranteed to

Re: [sword-devel] SVN revision 2558 ICU Error

2010-10-03 Thread Chris Little
It works fine in VC++. This is just a guess, because I'm not expert in troubleshooting Linux builds, but it looks like you're missing the devel package for ICU 4.2, even though this is the version Sword is trying to use. So, my advice would be to make it use 4.4 or install the ICU 4.2 devel

Re: [sword-devel] av11n mappings

2010-10-03 Thread Chris Little
On 10/3/2010 6:19 PM, Robert Hunt wrote: Dear all, I've been investigating for the last two weeks about creating a small open repository under the OpenScriptures banner for storing and maintaining (and even documenting) XML lists of versification schemes and international booknames,

Re: [sword-devel] av11n mappings

2010-10-03 Thread Chris Little
On 10/3/2010 9:34 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Chris Littlechris...@crosswire.org wrote: On 10/3/2010 6:19 PM, Robert Hunt wrote: � �4/ Would your program be interested in taking advantage of such XML � �lists? � �5/ If not, would another format be helpful?

Re: [sword-devel] av11n mappings

2010-09-30 Thread Chris Little
v11ns. --Chris On 9/29/10 11:47 PM, Костя и Алёна Маслюк wrote: What do you mean? As i know there is no mapping between v11ns in Sword. Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org писал(а) в своём письме Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:21:13 +0400: This has been available (in SVN) for a year

Re: [sword-devel] Missing Lang=en in tdavid.conf

2010-09-30 Thread Chris Little
Lang=en is default, so there shouldn't be an issue anywhere, but I've added this line to the current .conf. --Chris On 9/30/10 2:52 PM, Martin Denham wrote: Hi, I am not sure what the process of fixing or amending modules is but I thought I would mention that tdavid.conf has no language

Re: [sword-devel] Chinese PinYin, OSIS, SWORD and front-ends

2010-09-30 Thread Chris Little
Our ICU transliterators include a Pinyin transliterator, allowing the user to switch between Han and Pinyin. It wouldn't be especially difficult to write a filter to put the transliterated text in ruby. The transliterator table is fairly good, I believe, and sometimes looks at context, not

Re: [sword-devel] av11n mappings

2010-09-29 Thread Chris Little
This has been available (in SVN) for a year. --Chris On 9/29/2010 8:58 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Von: Konstantin Maslyukkale...@mail.ru Hi. I would write mapping system and mapping data for Synodal v11n, of course if anyone from Sword Project heads want me to do it. I think this would

Re: [sword-devel] Hyphens in book names

2010-09-29 Thread Chris Little
Seriously? Someone designed an orthography in which \x2D (hyphen-minus) is used as an alphabetic character? What's its phonemic value? Hyphen-minus is simply not a letter. You can see its character properties at http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2d/index.htm. Scroll down to see

Re: [sword-devel] Hyphens in book names

2010-09-29 Thread Chris Little
These are completely unrelated. You're talking about OSIS identifiers, which are non-linguistic data, which is obviously unlocalizable. Robert is talking about book name localization. --Chris On 9/29/10 2:47 PM, Weston Ruter wrote: Is this limitation in SWORD due to the OSIS requirement

Re: [sword-devel] ACDCref, a modified ACDC module: hot-linking verse references

2010-09-20 Thread Chris Little
On 9/20/2010 7:38 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: In the Xiphos repo, I've just placed a new module ACDCref, which is an update to the ACDC module present in CrossWire Beta repo. This module makes just one change: It wraps all verse references in ref attributes, rendering them clickable. That's

Re: [sword-devel] ACDCref, a modified ACDC module: hot-linking verse references

2010-09-20 Thread Chris Little
On 9/20/2010 8:08 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Von: Karl Kleinpastek...@kleinpaste.org We're all about Bible software; I think having modules that always link Bible references is, by now and in our world, a base-level necessity. I think the same would apply to practically all the GenBook

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2010-09-20 Thread Chris Little
The Jerusalem Bible should be fairly straightforward, from your description. We just need to pick a versification and use it, preferrably the one that looks like their favored versification. All v11ns should be encoded in the OSIS doc, but the JB v11n should precede others. If 2:7, 1:3

Re: [sword-devel] Shorter book name abbreviations

2010-09-19 Thread Chris Little
On 9/19/2010 7:27 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: They are plain text files, so it is certainly possible to edit them.� However, anything that is editable will probably not be edited by very many people, so I think it is important to get the defaults right.� The questions are more Does anyone think

Re: [sword-devel] Shorter book name abbreviations

2010-09-19 Thread Chris Little
On 9/19/2010 7:55 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: I was talking about interpretation, not presentation (and so I think was the user, given they were talking about minimising the amount they have to type). I agree that the short name presentation is fine as it is. Do you know of any harm caused by

Re: [sword-devel] input methods

2010-08-31 Thread Chris Little
This is just a guess, but I suspect it is not being used anywhere by anyone. SWInputMethod was basically for customized input methods of a very basic sort. For example, input ' to the IM and get א out. (HebrewMCIM, if it isn't clear, takes Michigan-Claremont Hebrew encoding and outputs

Re: [sword-devel] Linked in audio files

2010-08-25 Thread Chris Little
On 8/24/2010 2:10 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Matthew Talbertransom1...@gmail.com writes: I thought of that. But images have a separate tag (figure, I think) OSISfigure, ThMLimg. If you mean to embed the audio in-line, I would recommend using the figure element. There's nothing

Re: [sword-devel] Linked in audio files

2010-08-25 Thread Chris Little
On 8/25/2010 5:20 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Chris Littlechris...@crosswire.org writes: If you mean to embed the audio in-line, I would recommend using the figure element. There's nothing specifically image-oriented about the element, aside from implications made by its name. Yes, there

Re: [sword-devel] 64-bit version of Windows ?

2010-08-19 Thread Chris Little
On 8/19/2010 9:11 AM, Matthew Talbert wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:08 PM, David Haslamd.has...@ukonline.co.uk wrote: Are any of the Windows based front-end applications incompatible with the 64-bit version of Windows 7 (or Vista) ? David In my experience, BibleCS has some problems

Re: [sword-devel] references

2010-07-26 Thread Chris Little
On 7/26/2010 12:30 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Many thanks Chris, I think this answers my problem: E.g.: reference osisRef=Exod.5.22. Mose 5,2/reference The problem then is that usfm2osis.pl does not (yet) create such references with my texts. I presume I need to do some work to it.

Re: [sword-devel] Character entity reference in osis2mod

2010-07-12 Thread Chris Little
On 7/8/2010 1:50 AM, jovanni wrote: It seems that osis2mod does not handle well character entity refferences (#x; ) in OSIS files. I encountered this bug when I am using osis2mod Rev: 2169. Does anyone know whether this bug was fixed in the newer versions of osis2mod or not? I doubt that

Re: [sword-devel] Module submission status....

2010-05-31 Thread Chris Little
I haven't had much time to attend to module submissions lately, except from sources who are providing updates to their own submissions. We have had a lot of problems lately with Slavic-language submissions, in that they frequently contain copyrighted material without attribution (e.g. The text

Re: [sword-devel] Multi-xref sets

2010-05-20 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: Regarding list type=x-reference, would you also suggest item type=x-referencereference osisRef=xx/reference/item (w/o looking at the OSIS spec to see what the tag is for an item)? That would be a bit busy. I was thinking of listreference.../reference/list, but it occurs

Re: [sword-devel] mod2osis failure

2010-04-16 Thread Chris Little
On 4/16/2010 7:19 PM, troypulk wrote: Just to let you guys know that since mod2osis is dysfunctional and unusable I found a web site that has osis.xml modules already made to the osis format that are ready to be converted. So I download the emtv bible and fixed the error I found and converted

Re: [sword-devel] The Lexham English Bible (module LEB)

2010-04-15 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: David Haslam d.has...@ukonline.co.uk writes: Just inside the seg ... /seg markers, the two Unicode characters are U+20FB MODIFIER LETTER BEGIN LOW TONE U+20FC MODIFIER LETTER END LOW TONE These two codepoints are not supported by some Unicode fonts. Bible Desktop

[sword-devel] iPad digression (was: Re: frontend features, their applicability -- consistency?)

2010-04-14 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: Karl Kleinpaste wrote: There is _physically_ no way for, say, PocketSword to achieve feature parity with Xiphos (or BT or BPBible or...), simply because an iPhone hasn't got the screen real estate to do what Xiphos does. It's an impossibility, due to the physical

Re: [sword-devel] mod2osis failure

2010-04-14 Thread Chris Little
Could you post the exact command you used to produce this output? Also, please summarize what you see as problems in the output, if there are any other than the three I identify: 1) The schema identified is non-existent. (Easily rectified, and I'll attend to it when I get home.) 2) Error

Re: [sword-devel] Announcing the Open Scriptures Morphological Hebrew Bible module

2010-04-11 Thread Chris Little
Daniel Owens wrote: Today the Open Scriptures Morphological Hebrew Bible (morphology forthcoming), or OSMHB, made it onto the module repository (thanks Chris!). This module is basically the WLC with Strong's numbers (thanks to David Troidl and others). This is a major step forward for Hebrew

Re: [sword-devel] Wikisource

2010-04-11 Thread Chris Little
David Haslam wrote: What's the best way to capture a whole Bible from one published in Wikisource? Is it just repeated, Edit, Select All, Copy, Paste, Save As, ... ? - Once for each book of the Bible. How about after that? Scripts to convert it to either VPL, USFM or OSIS ? David Most of

Re: [sword-devel] duplicate entries in TEI dictionary

2010-04-03 Thread Chris Little
On 4/3/2010 3:13 PM, Daniel Bearden wrote: The .conf has: [ABPLexicon] DataPath=./modules/lexdict/rawld/abplexicon/ This is a little difficult to guess at, but I suspect that your problem is in the above .conf line. All LD-type modules (including dictionaries) must have the filename of the

Re: [sword-devel] SFM to OSIS

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Little
It's still available from Snowfall: http://virtualstorehouses.org/downloads.html On 4/1/2010 11:40 PM, Mattias � wrote: Hi everybody Crosswire wiki page http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Converting_SFM_Bibles_to_OSIS refers to a SFM to OSIS converting script in python, created by Snowfall SW, but

Re: [sword-devel] Psalms, Books and XML

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Little
On 4/2/2010 4:57 AM, David Haslam wrote: This may be seen as a naïve question from someone who has not done enough homework All other books in the Bible are usually called Books in Bible software, but Psalms (in some printed editions at least) actually comprises five books per se. Book

Re: [sword-devel] Wrong Strongs Numbers try this link

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Little
On 4/1/2010 11:57 PM, Geoffrey W Hastings wrote: I found this discussion on www.theword.gr on the forum page. The strongs from the Sword Project was used in the software. It appears that some strongs numbers are missing. http://forum.theword.gr/viewtopic.php?f=7t=1586start=0hilit=sword+project

Re: [sword-devel] Known bad, do not test modules in Beta

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Little
Are you getting bug reports for them? What sorts of complaints are they getting? I might mis-remember the problems with them, but I thought they were actually fairly usable and functional. Their main issue is that some of them are in TEI P4, which we no longer intend to target as a markup

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Resource Identifiers

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Little
I think it important to point out that the official Sword URI standard, as defined about 10 years ago and implemented to some extent in BibleCS at that time, is basically: sword://module/key Adding an identical protocol handler for bible: is fine, and I'd even encourage it, but sword: is the

Re: [sword-devel] another OSIS weirdness: headers in LEB

2010-03-25 Thread Chris Little
On 3/25/2010 4:51 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: So the new LEB from Logos came out, and there's a new module in the CrossWire repo. I picked it up, and I turned on footnotes and headings. Before I turned on headings, display looked pretty normal, though I could question excess line breaks in Matt

Re: [sword-devel] Simplified Chinese locale

2010-03-24 Thread Chris Little
! Chris Little wrote: On 3/23/2010 7:17 PM, Nic Carter wrote: Hi gang, I was recently given a Chinese locale for SWORD with the books of the Bible in Simplified Chinese. Currently we only have Traditional Chinese in SVN (actually, the current one is zh_TW-utf8.conf, meaning it's for Taiwan

Re: [sword-devel] Simplified Chinese locale

2010-03-23 Thread Chris Little
On 3/23/2010 7:17 PM, Nic Carter wrote: Hi gang, I was recently given a Chinese locale for SWORD with the books of the Bible in Simplified Chinese. Currently we only have Traditional Chinese in SVN (actually, the current one is zh_TW-utf8.conf, meaning it's for Taiwan, but it's simply a

Re: [sword-devel] Greek and Hebrew Esther in joint text

2010-02-03 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: I am looking at the Portuguese Bible by the Capuchin monks which will hopefully soon become a new module. Esther is interesting as the text is a joint Greek/Hebrew Esther but with letters for Greek chapters and numbers for hebrew ones. I believe that the Greek portions

Re: [sword-devel] Verse range references

2010-02-03 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: How should vese range references best be coded? I have a text (the portugues again) which uses references covering a long section e.g. vs1-11. This should definitely be supported. Assuming the range is in Esth.1, you encode this as: verse osisID=Esth.1.1 Esth.1.2

Re: [sword-devel] Supersedes field in conf file front-end module management?

2010-02-01 Thread Chris Little
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Peter von Kaehne wrote: Von: David Haslam d.has...@ukonline.co.uk Any ideas on this topic? Names modules which are superseded I thought. Similar to the version numbering in a way. Yeah, I think Peter is correct. The intention was that the InstallMgr class

Re: [sword-devel] Korean module?

2010-02-01 Thread Chris Little
To my recollection, these are all the Korean Revised Version of ca. 1961. --Chris Ian Wagner wrote: Apparently BibleGateway is confused too. I will have to investigate further to verify my claim, but it appears to be the same text. THe link I posted contains some additional parenthetical

[sword-devel] ISO language code presentation

2010-01-16 Thread Chris Little
At this year's meeting of the Linguistic Society of America, Rebecca Guenther of the Library of Congress gave a presentation on ISO language codes (covering 639-1 through 6, IETF's registry, and the future of the codes). The LSA's Technology Advisory Committee (of which I'm an ex officio

Re: [sword-devel] cross references

2010-01-14 Thread Chris Little
(cross-posting to osis-users) On 1/12/2010 1:43 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: How should crossreferences be included? The text I have has a separate x-ref document which I will merge in one way or another with the actual text. I've seen these a few times before in SFM document sets. There

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