Re: [sword-devel] KJV Beta issue

2009-06-10 Thread Chris Little
David Haslam wrote: Has anyone checked what the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Paragraph_Bible Cambridge Paragraph Bible (2005) does? There is now a paperback edition (2006) of this modern textual recension by David Norton. -- David As the name would suggest (and I believe Ryan is

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD handling of OSIS paragraphs

2009-06-09 Thread Chris Little
Ben Morgan wrote: On 07/06/2009, *Chris Little* chris...@crosswire.org mailto:chris...@crosswire.org wrote: The *htmlhref filters are the GnomeSword filters. They may now be used by other front ends, and the GnomeSword/Xiphos team may have abandoned their maintenance

Re: [sword-devel] How broadly do we define API

2009-06-09 Thread Chris Little
Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: 2009/6/10 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm: At the level of utilities that are used in scripts, and whose command line parameters are therefore in some sense an API for those who write scripts using them, the very recent (post 1.6.0) change to osis2mod that adds

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD handling of OSIS paragraphs

2009-06-06 Thread Chris Little
The *htmlhref filters are the GnomeSword filters. They may now be used by other front ends, and the GnomeSword/Xiphos team may have abandoned their maintenance, but they were originally written by Terry and do some non-standard stuff (as opposed to the *html filters, which should just output

[sword-devel] other osis2mod import issues (from the Wiki)

2009-06-04 Thread Chris Little
Firstly, DM, let me express my appreciation for your taking on the task of improving osis2mod further. It's a daunting task and I'm glad not to be tackling it myself right now. :) There are a couple of sections of your Wiki addition from today that concern me. Hopefully they'll be easy to

Re: [sword-devel] Heads and Titles

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Little
Ted Janiszewski wrote: Could someone well-versed in the OSIS spell out for me the difference between head and the various types of title elements? It sort of looks as though the community changed direction on the best practices for titling books and chapters halfway through writing the

[sword-devel] Win32 utilities binaries (r2420)

2009-05-27 Thread Chris Little
Latest SVN (r2420) of the utilities, compiled for Win32, is posted to FTP: http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/utils/win32/sword-utilities-1.6.0-r2420.zip This includes a few minor bits of cleanup since 1.6.0, some post-ICU 4.2 patches to ICU, and most notably all of DM's recent changes

Re: [sword-devel] WLC 1.5 loses spacing?

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Little
Spaces are indeed gone from 1.5. I've got an updated version with this and a couple of other corrections that I hope to upload tomorrow. --Chris Teus Benschop wrote: I tried to install the new WLC module from the Beta repository. It was installed in Xiphos. The 1.4 version has normal spaces

Re: [sword-devel] WLC 1.5 loses spacing?

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Little
) Hebrew database also included in the WLC module? Teus. On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 00:11 -0700, Chris Little wrote: Spaces are indeed gone from 1.5. I've got an updated version with this and a couple of other corrections that I hope to upload tomorrow. --Chris Teus Benschop wrote: I tried to install

Re: [sword-devel] Problems with LXXM module in CrossWire beta

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Little
LXXM is an experimental module (hence its listing in the experimental section of that wiki page). It employs features (notably VerseTreeKey) not yet completely implemented in Sword, much less any front end. There's no expectation that it should work under any front end, in its posted state.

Re: [sword-devel] Problems with LXXM module in CrossWire beta

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Little
Mike Hart wrote: ANY module in the production repository should work. We're not talking about that. The beta repository should be for things that are supposed to work. Issues found with modules on the beta repository are supposed to be reported. The beta repository is for stuff that is

[sword-devel] Win32 Sword 1.6.0 utilities

2009-05-14 Thread Chris Little
The Win32 utilities bundle for 1.6.0 is posted at http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/utils/win32/sword-utilities-1.6.0.zip Since we're now compiling utilities in MSVC, they are much smaller and hopefully a bit faster. Due to their much reduced size, I've eliminated the individual

[sword-devel] new WLC module posted to beta

2009-05-14 Thread Chris Little
Once you've got 1.6.0 in your hands and working, take a look at the new WLC module, based on WLC 4.10. The big new feature *should* be the use of native versification: Malachi will have 3 chapters, Nehemiah is the last book of the Bible, the Chronicles come between Malachi Psalms, and the NT

Re: [sword-devel] InstallMgr

2009-05-14 Thread Chris Little
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: I would like to add new officially supported methods, like adding: o Installation of modules from another existing SWORD library installation via HTTP ( e.g., http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/raw ) A skeleton class for this method was already added in

Re: [sword-devel] new WLC module posted to beta

2009-05-14 Thread Chris Little
And another thing... This module is built with the most recent osis2mod (1.6.0), so look upon it as a test of that as well. --Chris Chris Little wrote: Once you've got 1.6.0 in your hands and working, take a look at the new WLC module, based on WLC 4.10. The big new feature *should

Re: [sword-devel] [Fwd: Re: [sword-support] Hebrew Text With Morphological Tags]

2009-05-13 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Daniel Owens dhow...@pmbx.net writes: I think MorphGNT is the module you're thinking of. Is there a reason MorphGNT is still in beta? MorphGNT is certainly not in beta. It was withdrawn due to copyright. For further information, google openscriptures and morphgnt.

Re: [sword-devel] v11n - howto create module from vpl format

2009-05-11 Thread Chris Little
Martin Zibricky wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to convert Czech Bible 21 (B21) to sword format. When using tool 'vpl2mod' (sword 1.5.11) I'm getting a lot of warnings like: Not a valid KJV ref: Genesis 32:33 appending to ref: Genesis 32:32 Warning, overwriting verse: Genesis 32:32 Not a

[sword-devel] SWORD 1.6.x Localization (Ps 151)

2009-05-06 Thread Chris Little
I've noticed a couple of locales now in SVN that have problems from the perspective of Sword's verse parser. Sword's verse parser looks for the first non-initial digit in a verse reference and interprets this as the beginning of a chapter number. So 1Kings or 2Baruch are fine, since the digits

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.6.x Localization (Ps 151)

2009-05-06 Thread Chris Little
Daniel, It depends on the Bible. In the case of the NRSV, Psalm 151 is a separate book within the intertestamental group of books. In other traditions, it's simply the 151st chapter of Psalms. Traditions that include Psalms 152-155 can likewise present 151-155 as a separate book or

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification

2009-05-03 Thread Chris Little
In general, I'm planning for the addition of versification systems to progress slowly and conservatively. So I've recommended to Troy that we release 1.6.0 with the current set (KJV(A), NRSV(A) supersets, Leningrad, MT). The main reason for this is that a v11n definition must remain stable

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification

2009-05-03 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: Chris Little wrote: Does that all sound reasonable? In principle, yes and particularly wrt the conservative approach you suggest. It would be easy to go overboard with enthusiasm and then create a mess which will be impossible to clear up. But wrt the protestant

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod output (Bisaya-Inunhan NT)

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Marsden wrote: DM Smith wrote: No it is not a translator's error. It is correct. If not, what versification schemes do have that verse, but are otherwise compatible with KJV versification? NRSV AFAICT, this differs from the KJV in having 3 John 1:15 and Revelation 12:18.

Re: [sword-devel] New Revision: 2328

2009-04-22 Thread Chris Little
Did you rebuild your makefiles using automake (or autogen.sh)? Barry Drake wrote: Hi Troy . Since your commit (New Revision: 2328) earlier today, my previously successful mingw build now fails to link 'buildtest.exe' with the error: undefined reference to

Re: [sword-devel] x-E-XXX language codes

2009-04-19 Thread Chris Little
Though included in the OSIS spec, x-E- codes are no longer necessary and therefore deprecated. With the introduction of ISO 639-3, all of the Ethnologue codes should have an equivalent ISO code. Current content has been transitioned to use ISO codes. Older versions that people may still have

Re: [sword-devel] iPhone developers?

2009-04-19 Thread Chris Little
It's my understanding that, in order to sign apps for use on an iPhone/iPod Touch, you have to enroll in the $99/yr iPhone SDK developer program. (Not just ADC.) IMO, it would be nice to have a jailbreak/Cydia version of the app. These obviously reach a much smaller audience, but the whole

Re: [sword-devel] sword svn

2009-04-13 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Marsden wrote: Matthew Talbert wrote: I subscribe to sword-svn as an attempt to educate myself on the library, and, of course, to keep track of current changes. It would be a real help to me if the commit messages were longer and more informative. As I am very new to a lot of the

Re: [sword-devel] leningrad, av11n, xiphos

2009-04-13 Thread Chris Little
FWIW, lookup (the cmdline example program called lookup) works fine on LeningradV11N: $ ./lookup.exe LeningradV11N Haggai 1:1 ==Raw=Entry=== Haggai 1:1: Hag 1.1 ==Render=Entry Hag 1.1 == Entry Attributes: I would be interested to hear whether

Re: [sword-devel] sword svn

2009-04-13 Thread Chris Little
Matthew Talbert wrote: The problem that I've had with that, is that it appears that the bug tracker is not up-to-date and goes long periods with no activity. I believe Peter mentioned this recently as well. A couple of examples: I would say the tracker is fairly up to date (minus new bugs

Re: [sword-devel] key parse failure, -r2304

2009-04-08 Thread Chris Little
Matthew Talbert wrote: Xiphos missing strongs and morphology was my mistake. The rest still are issues (except I see that the 1p issue is fixed, thanks Chris). The mapping of 1P to 1 Chronicles rather than 1 Peter was a feature, not a bug (although an undesired feature, obviously). It comes

Re: [sword-devel] Proofreading Request: Ignatian Epistles

2009-04-07 Thread Chris Little
Ted Janiszewski wrote: I'm working on marking up the Ignatian Epistles in OSIS 2.1.1. If any of you have a minute, could you glance through one of these documents and let me know how they look? Especially the headers. I'm sorry it took so long to get a reply. I would guess the message got

Re: [sword-devel] Making Import Easier

2009-04-07 Thread Chris Little
Manfred Bergmann wrote: Am 07.04.2009 um 03:28 schrieb Chris Little: they have trouble finding the Windows build of the binaries, This sounds more like an advertising/publicity/documentation issue than a technical one? Or it could be a packaging issue -- how are such users getting

[sword-devel] How to reverse engineer e-Sword's format (no illegality involved)

2009-04-06 Thread Chris Little
Let's ignore EULAs and DMCA violations for a moment (given that we're discussing interoperability, and the DMCA specifically permits reverse engineering in such circumstances). And let's just consider the quick and simple method of reverse engineering e-Sword's format without ever visiting

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: [Pkg-crosswire-devel] Beta SWORD modules StrongsGreek.zip and HunKar.zip - are zero length?

2009-04-06 Thread Chris Little
. Is this intentional, and if so, what does it signify? Or am I just doing something wrong in the download process?! Thanks for pointing this out. Both were the result of errors (now fixed). From memory (and Chris Little can probably confirm) this may be because a user has tried to download this module

Re: [sword-devel] Making Import Easier

2009-04-06 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Marsden wrote: Greg Hellings wrote: I was just chatting with Matthew Talbert about the process of making module import a much easier task than it is now. ... Interesting. To me (I am probably a very atypical module creator, but I have played with the mod2* and *2mod tools as part

Re: [sword-devel] Making Import Easier

2009-04-06 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Marsden wrote: As to why the current documentation isn't better, or why there aren't more modules in source format to look at, it's essentially CrossWire policy to keep it so that average users can't create modules easily In which case, any form of Making Import Easier, whether

[sword-devel] osis2mod/teimod (was: Re: Making Import Easier)

2009-04-06 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: WRT tei2mod, I wrote it. Chris enhanced it. It is a rather braindead program, looking for start and end of entries. One thing that it does, it recommends conf entries based on the module it creates. I plan to change osis2mod to do this later. Could I recommend we go one

Re: [sword-devel] my status / SWORD release

2009-04-02 Thread Chris Little
Matthew Talbert wrote: isa 1 goes to 1 Samuel isaiah 1 goes to Rev 1:1 I don't know of any other parsing errors in particular, but these two make me worried that perhaps there are. I just committed a corrected builtin_abbrevs[]. The problem resulted from an error on my part in the script

Re: [sword-devel] [bt-devel] Judges: Judg or Jud? and the handling of invalid references

2009-03-28 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Morgan wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: I think I've found an interesting bug... or maybe more than one? This is a module problem, so I have CC'ed sword-devel. There's no mention of which version of ISBE was tested here, but I'll

Re: [sword-devel] [bt-devel] Judges: Judg or Jud? and the handling of invalid references

2009-03-28 Thread Chris Little
ISBE is now updated, BTW (in beta). Jonathan Marsden wrote: Chris Little wrote: There's no mention of which version of ISBE was tested here, but I'll address this as if it were the latest edition that is being discussed since the problem does exist there. (But it's my suspicion

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry Encoding

2009-03-26 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: David (Mailing List Addy) wrote: So now that we've had a discussion about how to indent poetry, is there a reliable way to pragmatically detect poetry? In the ESV instead of wrapping the lines in l/l tags it's in an l / tag. Is this the standard way of encoding them? David,

Re: [sword-devel] Parashah

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Little
Is this in any way formally different from a pericope or section? I would simply use div type=section. If you need to carry any additional information (e.g. the pe and samekh marks) you have the subtype and n attributes on div. I don't believe we do anything special with pe samekh in our

Re: [sword-devel] SweFolk issues

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: 1. Interesting that it bypassed the beta repo entirely. This module was done on Saturday. No one tests anything in the Beta repo, so I tested it in a few frontends on Sunday until it appeared to me that everything was satisfactory. 2. It is misnamed. I have been in

Re: [sword-devel] SweFolk issues

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: 4. It fails to use pre-verse headers properly (e.g. Psalms, Lamentations). Thanks for catching this. I'd made an error in a script that failed to place headings prior to the verse marker in cases other than basic section headings. 5. It fails to respect poetry

Re: [sword-devel] SweFolk issues

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org writes: Kinda ironic. What happened to release early, release often? Kinda ironic. What happened to make our content as high quality as I can and deserves better than a careless attitude in light of the fact that your conversion has

Re: [sword-devel] SweFolk issues

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: The second example with only a single word after the br/ suggests that they are an artifiact. If not, and without looking at the source, I'd suggest that they be put back in either as l n=2.../l (where n is one greater than the line it breaks) or as lb/. The full text of Ps

Re: [sword-devel] first non-KJV v11n

2009-03-20 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: Manfred Bergmann wrote: Am 18.03.2009 um 12:15 schrieb DM Smith: When were were beta testing the German modules, many of them had the same KJV versification problems. I'd like to see a versification for that, if you don't already have one in the wings. If so, which is it?

Re: [sword-devel] TEI external references with osisRef

2009-03-20 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: Chris, In the example, you are giving KJV as the work. Are we still of the mindset that a reference without the work or with a work of Bible refers to verse? In a TEI document, an osisRef value will almost certainly be a Bible reference--just because it's a non-standard

Re: [sword-devel] dictionary ordering revisited

2009-03-20 Thread Chris Little
Daniel Owens wrote: I think the engine should support multiple keys in a single dictionary module so something like entryFree n=ἀγαπάω|agapaō|G25 would be a feasible entry. A user could look up the same word in both the MorphGNT and TR modules without having to switch dictionaries, and

Re: [sword-devel] TEI external references with osisRef

2009-03-19 Thread Chris Little
Daniel Owens wrote: I want to know how to encode a link to a Bible verse in a TEI dictionary. The wiki isn't very specific about how to go about this. External references are like so: xr type=xrefref target=work:keykey text/ref/xr But the wiki says to use osisRef. Should it be identical in

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Morgan wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: Jonathan Morgan wrote: It is not backward, it is a pure statement of facts, which you can find quite clearly in the GPL v2 FAQ http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-faq.html

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Little
Matthew Talbert wrote: That doesn't mean it is the sole property of CrossWire, but it does mean that copyright is jointly held between CrossWire and the front end author(s). Disagree? Ask licens...@fsf.org. Did you really mean to say copyright here? It is my understanding, reinforced by

[sword-devel] first non-KJV v11n

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Little
I've committed the first non-KJV versification system to SVN HEAD, as well as an expanded builtin_abbrevs[] array with all of the books we are likely to support in 1.5.12 (or quite probably more books than that). The v11n system I've committed is Leningrad--the v11n of the Leningrad Codex.

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

2009-03-17 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Morgan wrote: It is not backward, it is a pure statement of facts, which you can find quite clearly in the GPL v2 FAQ http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-faq.html#GPLModuleLicense. You need to look at the question immediately following the one you link. I'll quote: Q: If

Re: [sword-devel] [sword-support] deuterocanonical support

2009-03-16 Thread Chris Little
Greg Hellings wrote: If not 1.6 or 2.0... then could you possibly explain to me the rhyme or reason given to the versioning system? The minor version indicates whether we're in a development (odd number) or stable (even number) branch. Under that system, 1.6 and 2.0 wouldn't be right for

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

2009-03-16 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: mmital wrote: Hi, I have been using Alkitab bible study lately. Fantastic piece of software, truly amazing. I also noticed that it is in public domain, while using sword engine that is in GPL v2, and other components that may have their own license

Re: [sword-devel] [sword-support] deuterocanonical support

2009-03-16 Thread Chris Little
David Haslam wrote: Can someone please clarify whether deuterocanonical support in the pipeline is just extending scope of the canonical support to the 75 books found in many Catholic Bibles, or if it also will address the pseudo-epigraphical books as found in the Ethiopian (Amharic script)

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

2009-03-16 Thread Chris Little
Ben Morgan wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:04 AM, mmital mital.m...@gmail.com mailto:mital.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Chris pointed out, all front-ends *have* to use GPL v2. So the public domain door is closed for me. The license for a front end has to be GPL v2 compatible.

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

2009-03-16 Thread Chris Little
Ben Morgan wrote: I thought it was the whole glob of the application that had to be able to be licensed under the GPL? An individual component of my application can be released under another license. Ok, I think I know what you're getting at. Assuming that you want to use a GPL library (e.g.

Re: [sword-devel] [sword-support] deuterocanonical support

2009-03-15 Thread Chris Little
Barry Drake wrote: Hi Chris ... Chris Little wrote: We plan to have this ready for our next release This is the most fantastic exciting news. I've been carefully following all Troy's and your recent svn commits. Thanks for all the great work. It's all coming along very nicely, and I

Re: [sword-devel] [sword-support] deuterocanonical support

2009-03-15 Thread Chris Little
Ben Morgan wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Chris Little wrote: Barry Drake wrote: Hi Chris ... Chris Little wrote: We plan to have this ready for our next release This is the most fantastic exciting news. I've been carefully

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: With regard to OSIS, if there are short-comings, we should try to influence the standard. This is a proper venue for how we at CrossWire would like to work with OSIS. Regarding the l element and indents here is what the manual has to say: *l: The l element is used to mark

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Little
Daniel Owens wrote: One more thing to consider is poetic elements that are right-justified. One of the translations I have worked on preparing for SWORD had Selah right justified (VietNVB, in case you're interested). I just encoded it like so: l level=4Sê-la./l It isn't right-justified,

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: The OS support I would simply do as previous - one row only, but maybe with icons to make faster to read. Win95+ or WinXP+ is adequate instead of a whole list of variants (unless newer Wins do not work). This may seem a minor matter, but I'm not sure whether the

Re: [sword-devel] frontend comparison

2009-02-28 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Manfred Bergmann bergman...@web.de writes: What is meant by Ancillary texts and Verse Lists? Many modules, both Bibles and commentaries, have additional introductory material at the fictitious n:0 and 0:0 references. Some apps are able to display this information;

Re: [sword-devel] Frontend UI support for non-Latin numerals?

2009-02-23 Thread Chris Little
David Haslam wrote: Are any Frontend developers thinking about providing UI support for http://www.code2000.net/numbersutf.htm non-Latin numerals for chapter and verse references? This should all be handled via your chosen l10n library. ICU should be able to localize numbers, as appropriate

Re: [sword-devel] encoding acrostic titles (Ps 119)

2009-02-19 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: Peter von Kaehne wrote: Am trying to clean up a new module but stumble over the Ps 119 acrostic titles. In USFM they are encoded \qa [Letter] I tried lg type=acrostic [Letter] /lg but it appears that xmllint does not like it. I get a message inside lg with attribute there may

Re: [sword-devel] ICU transliteration resources

2009-02-19 Thread Chris Little
Matthew Talbert wrote: Thanks for the reply. It is much as I suspicioned. I do have Visual Studio, and I was able to easily compile ICU with that, however it did not give me an icudt that I could see. Perhaps I'd better look again. Of considerable concern to me is whether I will be able to

Re: [sword-devel] morphem separation

2009-02-16 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net writes: What exactly is it, why is it useful to have in a Bible study programme? And yes, is it something done by the engine? To what extent and which languages. Does it require specially marked up modules or is it simply there? Do we

[sword-devel] SCSU

2009-02-16 Thread Chris Little
Just a heads up to anyone using the latest SVN, since I noticed there was a little confusion on IRC today: I removed SCSU support from Sword earlier today. If you run into problems compiling, you probably need to re-run autogen.sh. --Chris ___

Re: [sword-devel] SwordReader Module Installer

2009-02-07 Thread Chris Little
SonWon wrote: Please give David and I your opinion. We are discussing the module installer for SwordReader. Should it be windows based only? Leaves the MAC and Linux users out in the cold. Don't PocketPCs still require Windows for ActiveSync purposes? Are there any precedents for content

Re: [sword-devel] FreCrampon module: versification problem for Malachi 4

2009-02-03 Thread Chris Little
Any versification that is fundamentally different from what I used to produce the existing FreCrampon module is an incorrect versification. That is not to discount the possibility of minor errors in versification in my own edition, but my module's versification is fundamentally correct and any

Re: [sword-devel] SwordReader.org

2009-02-03 Thread Chris Little
Minor things: CrossWire (big C, big W) The SWORD Project (big T, big SWORD, always with the The) David Trotz wrote: Thanks to help from David Overcash, I am happy to announce that the SwordReader site is up and running with updated content reflecing the new beta release.

Re: [sword-devel] Mac (was Locale and text retrieval code)

2009-02-01 Thread Chris Little
Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: Troy A. Griffitts wrote: ... I need a new laptop and considering buying a Mac! :) Good choice. My MacBook is the best notebook computer I have ever used. You should definitely seriously consider a new MacBook or MacBook Pro. You can run Parallels on it and

Re: [sword-devel] Normalising on the commandline

2009-01-21 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: As a side issue of the other debate - how can I achieve NFC for a text I am working on via commandline utilities? All I can find in ICU documentation is about programming methods available, but I have seen no command line utilities. DM's suggestion of using the Perl

Re: [sword-devel] Greek dictionary - input needed

2009-01-20 Thread Chris Little
Daniel Owens wrote: The other MAJOR problem is that the dictionary keys are always capitalized, which makes it really awkward to use for Greek. Can I lobby again for a change in that? How many Greek students are used to looking up words in capitals? I was taught using lower case letters, and

Re: [sword-devel] Greek dictionary - input needed

2009-01-20 Thread Chris Little
Daniel Owens wrote: Chris Little wrote: For TEI P5 documents, you can set any number of key values within the n attribute, separated by |. For example n=a|aa|123 would put the entry in a but link the keys aa and 123 to the main entry. This is implemented in tei2mod, however I believe

Re: [sword-devel] Greek dictionary - input needed

2009-01-20 Thread Chris Little
Ben Morgan wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:41 AM, DM Smith dmsmith...@yahoo.com mailto:dmsmith...@yahoo.com wrote: ICU has the notion of a collation key, which can be used for such a purpose. (I think we've gotten to the point where ICU is a requirement for UTF-8 modules.) In

Re: [sword-devel] Wycliffe modules and beta testing

2009-01-18 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: My understanding of a discussion with Troy was that we are not supposed to do beta testing on the Wycliffe modules as they are kind a separate category - supplied and maintained by the organisation - and we only host them We need to test them to the extent that we need

Re: [sword-devel] Wycliffe modules and beta testing

2009-01-18 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: I just guess it is time again to start testing and tried to parcel up the job into what needs to be done, what should be done and what can wait. You have updated a whole bunch of modules in November following various updates to osis2mod. The trouble is that there are

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Commentaries

2009-01-18 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: Looking finally on a long neglected pile of files for an Persian commentary I stumbled over a few things which bug me dt lack of knowledge 1) If material is not meant to refer to any particular verse, but only to the whole chapter - content summaries etc does it go

Re: [sword-devel] Sword Library on Windows Without Requiring Cygwin

2009-01-09 Thread Chris Little
Jeremy Erickson wrote: I have never really compiled anything on Windows not using Visual Studio, unless I was using Cygwin and didn't care if it linked the DLL. You always have the option of using VS itself. We have projects for the last couple releases of VS in the source distribution.

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire wiki vandalism?

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Little
I'm mostly happy with everything that's been implemented suggested. There are only a couple of things I might do differently (probably based on my own behavior on the wiki combined with our universal hatred of actually facing captchas): DM Smith wrote: 5) Adding an external URL to a page.

Re: [sword-devel] Versification/Encoding Issues

2009-01-07 Thread Chris Little
Mike Hart wrote: I'm working on several bibles to get them into Sword Format (ultimately into public domain, or as close to PD as possible), and I've got a few unresolved issues. Can someone point me to the how-to that covers these topics? Issue number 1 - Versification standards One

Re: [sword-devel] Concerns about Alternate Versification

2009-01-06 Thread Chris Little
Basically, alternate versification support is phase 1. Mapping between versifications is phase 2. Jonathan Morgan wrote: I am also concerned about the choice of using Genbooks to represent books, just based (as far as I can tell) on the fact that we already have Genbook support. Is there any

Re: [sword-devel] Validating ThML and OSIS modules

2009-01-06 Thread Chris Little
So write it and submit a patch. [Some basic requirements: Don't add library dependencies to Sword itself, make the validator toggleable at runtime, and ensure that the validation library is in C/C++ and can compile under Win32 and with GCC.] --Chris Jonathan Morgan wrote: I feel that,

Re: [sword-devel] Concerns about Alternate Versification

2009-01-06 Thread Chris Little
Greg Hellings wrote: So how do we label them? verse osisRef=Dan.3.77 canonical=not-considered-by-Protestants-as-such? Because the reason that they're in that version is because they're probably considered canonical by someone. Just to qualify what I said previously about the purpose of the

Re: [sword-devel] BOM and Osis2Mod

2009-01-06 Thread Chris Little
Wolfgang Schultz wrote: Hello, if the utf-8 OSIS file has a BOM ( Byte Order Mark some editors insert one) Osis2Mod will fail to make a sword-modul, it were nice if this would be fixed, because it will cause lot of problems in further steps :( The BOM in UTF-8 is generally a Windows-ism.

Re: [sword-devel] Validating ThML and OSIS modules

2009-01-06 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Morgan wrote: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: So write it and submit a patch. [Some basic requirements: Don't add library dependencies to Sword itself, make the validator toggleable at runtime, and ensure that the validation library is in C

Re: [sword-devel] Neue evangelistische � avai lable for Sword

2009-01-05 Thread Chris Little
Wolfgang Schultz wrote: In my oppinion the Ne� is too long in the beta state, crosswire should speed up their processes, but that is only my non authoritative belief The latest NeUE from Manfred has only been available for about a month, during much of which various parts of the website

Re: [sword-devel] Tagging and Categorisation of modules

2009-01-05 Thread Chris Little
The categorization system is primarily concerned with presentation within a frontend. E.g. a GenBook with category Bible would be treated/displayed as a Bible (not that we've implemented this in .confs yet), an LD module with type DailyDevotional would display mm.dd keys using localized date

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire website

2009-01-02 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: With regard to browser inconsistencies I am trying to keep the two stylesheets in sync, but if I missed something, please tell me. I also do think there should be ways of making it work with a single sheet, making IE fail gracefully rather than badly. Any suggestions

Re: [sword-devel] New SWORD website - update

2008-12-31 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: Greg Hellings wrote: I don't know where you the claim that The SWORD Project site is dead from - I can tell you exactly one time when I looked at the wiki: when someone else made a FAQ entry about an iPhone front-end and asked anyone who might try to tackle it to edit

Re: [sword-devel] New SWORD website - update

2008-12-31 Thread Chris Little
jhphx wrote: Chris wrote: I guess logic would dictate that the Wiki is dead and we should move entirely to static pages. Both forms of pages have their place for the purposes of displaying these informative pages. There are those for whom Wikis are the web. Others find Wikis

Re: [sword-devel] Vanishing news item

2008-12-30 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: I put up yesterday a news item on a new release of a minor frontend , bringing it in line with current modules. Within a short while the item had vanished without trace. ... If this was a deletion by someone else who did not care to tell me that s/he did not agree with

Re: [sword-devel] Vanishing news item

2008-12-30 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: Sorry, Chris, this is not the correct stand of affairs. The news item was new and fresh from the press. i.e. from yesterday. LCDbible has been undeveloped until recently, but was recompiled yesterday to work with 1.5.11. Lynn also wrote to me that he plans to port the

Re: [sword-devel] New SWORD website - update

2008-12-30 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: re 1 line vs 2 line menu bar. I have been given some grief regarding my choice of a single menu bar. I think I have an acceptable solution - the real problem is to have narrow screens and shallow screens (wide screens or even worse netbooks) equally well accommodated.

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki

2008-12-30 Thread Chris Little
Yes, the Wiki will be down until DM has an opportunity to restore it, early next year. --Chris Ray Ellerd wrote: Is the WIKI down? Thanx, Ray ___ sword-devel mailing

Re: [sword-devel] New SWORD website - update

2008-12-30 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: Chris Little wrote: re styling and coloring. This remains a contentious issue clearly. I do not expect anyone to like my design choices - though some seem to do so. The color scheme and overall design are another thing that were not broken, but got fixed. Actually

Re: [sword-devel] Open source German Volxbibel

2008-12-30 Thread Chris Little
Wolfgang Schultz wrote: BTW the step VolxbibelWiki Zefania XML is already finished here you find the Volxbibel 3.0 with header and footnotes http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zefania-sharp/volxbibel_v3_rev1.zip?use_mirror=heanet This looks quite faithful, actually. I still wouldn't use an

Re: [sword-devel] New SWORD website - update

2008-12-30 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: Peter von Kaehne wrote: As I said, I have found a solution with a a inline list which works better on all kinds of screen designs. This is now implemented on www.crosswire.org. The design is a inline unordered list with nbsp in all spaces between words which should

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