Re: [sword-devel] Cygwin GnomeSword

2008-05-03 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Chris, whatever your difficulty is, it makes you the odd man out. Okay. It's quite odd since I've had the same issue on two different machines, but I'll try it all again. --Chris ___ sword-devel mailing list:

[sword-devel] Cygwin GnomeSword

2008-05-02 Thread Chris Little
Starting from scratch, using a full, 2.75GB Cygwin install, following the instructions to the letter: While gtkhtml is compiling, it dies with the following error: In file included from /usr/include/libgnomeui-2.0/libgnomeui/libgnomeui.h:35, from

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Software Review

2008-05-01 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Morgan wrote: I don't want to get into a lengthy debate, but a full featured system that is not used will not help anything. I, for one, will not use Sword for Windows in its current state, and I think you can see in his response to it how the average user will respond. [note that I

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Software Review

2008-05-01 Thread Chris Little
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: It could help if you or someone else wrote a list of the wanted features of a complete Sword frontend. I have hands full of work while porting BibleTime to Qt4 but I have still implemented quite much new features or code and could do it in the future, too. Excellent

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Software Review

2008-05-01 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: By the way, we have full support for GenBook. Oops, didn't mean to sell it short, but I'm glad that feature is in. No ability to hide letter decorations (e.g. cantillation, vowel points, accents) Hiding cantillation would be good. Hiding vowel points and Greek accents

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Software Review

2008-05-01 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Chris Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GnomeSword may once have been buildable on Cygwin, but it isn't presently. Oh, nonsense. I build it routinely under Cygwin, every time anybody makes changes and I have to svn up. If you haven't succeeded, you haven't read

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Software Review

2008-05-01 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: As to entering an LD key, it is there, but it is really hidden. It is built into Java. (May be it is the more recent versions of Java that has it.) Just click on the list of keys and start typing. It's not perfect (i.e. the list doesn't scroll), but it seems to work. I do

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Software Review

2008-05-01 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Both the script and README make noises about the necessity of a complete, everything Cygwin install. That's fine, but we both know that it doesn't actually need an everything install. GnomeSword doesn't need tetex or games or KDE or emacs or servers, etc.

Re: [sword-devel] TEI Dictionaries was Re: Bible Software Review

2008-05-01 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: The TEI filter does not do much styling. May I suggest that you add styling for the elements I've used for the NASB lexicons. Actually... I was looking at your encoding just now and comparing it to my own TEI. :) We should probably figure out what we want to do regarding

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Software Review

2008-04-30 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Morgan wrote: On a different point, if we genuinely believe that Sword for Windows is not or should not be undergoing active maintenance then we should probably remove it or de-emphasise it. It is quite understandable that an average user like him will look at the website, find a

Re: [sword-devel] Withdrawn SWORD modules?

2008-04-26 Thread Chris Little
Or... you know... we could just read their FAQ or archiving guidelines and write them a friendly email like they suggest, requesting that certain pages be taken down. I would prefer CrossWire didn't engage in abuse of the DMCA, which is what you're suggesting. --Chris jonathon wrote: On

Re: [sword-devel] bible module from Word text?

2008-04-25 Thread Chris Little
I've had good success using OpenOffice.org to export HTML (or maybe it was XHTML). It produces cleaner HTML than Office itself. However, if you export with Office and use HTML Tidy, as Sebastian suggests, tidy does have a special mode for cleaning up documents exported from Office. The problem

Re: [sword-devel] Withdrawn SWORD modules?

2008-04-25 Thread Chris Little
Someone (namely Troy) needs to update our robots.txt to exclude indexing of http://www.crosswire.org/sword/servlet/SwordMod.Verify. To get old editions removed, we'll have to contact IA. In the future, if you have questions to raise pertaining to possible legal liability, please contact

[sword-devel] new modules in beta

2008-04-21 Thread Chris Little
There are updates to SME, Daily, WEB, HNV, BBE. Also, an old but hidden module, GerReinhardt, has been unhidden. (It was hidden by an error in its .conf.) I did a little more work on the RSS feed also, so it now indicates the release version and what is changed in the latest release. And I

Re: [sword-devel] InstallMgr questions

2008-04-20 Thread Chris Little
Adding to what others have said, I'll note that the ZIPs are not reliably up to date. They are only updated by the JSPs after someone has attempted to download an out of date ZIP of the same type (raw presumably). Furthermore, since all new modules are compressed (excepting GenBooks), there is

Re: [sword-devel] Greenstone .... and the Hawaiian Bible

2008-04-18 Thread Chris Little
David Haslam wrote: Not completely off topic, because examples of its use include Ulukau, the Hawaiian Electronic Library which in turn includes Baibala Hemolele (The Hawaiian Bible), for which the link page is http://baibala.org/ This looks interesting. Do we have any clue which edition

Re: [sword-devel] Greenstone .... and the Hawaiian Bible

2008-04-18 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: The web site indicates that it is not the 1994 version. On this page: http://baibala.org/cgi-bin/bible?e=p-off-0bible--00-1-0true--00-4--Sec---0--1en-Zz-1---20-header-search-true---011-010-0-1-escapewina=pp=framesetp2=aboutp3=edintrotoc=0d= it says: The American Bible

[sword-devel] more RSS feeds

2008-04-18 Thread Chris Little
I put up a couple more RSS feeds. These list new module releases: http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/pubmods.rss (public modules) http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/betamods.rss (beta modules) They update nightly after the conf tarballs are rebuilt, so they shouldn't ever

Re: [sword-devel] Compiling SWORD API using MinGW

2008-04-06 Thread Chris Little
of packages. It took me forever to get everything I needed. I still don't think I got ICU working, so if you got ICU compiled, maybe we could swap secrets. I'll upload my MinGW environment which builds sword. Look for it soon at /pub/sword/mingw/ Chris Little wrote: Has anyone had any luck

Re: [sword-devel] Compiling SWORD API using MinGW

2008-04-06 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: On Apr 6, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Chris Little wrote: Ultimately, I'm hoping (fingers crossed) to get GnomeSword (maybe even BibleTime?) building on/for Win32 in a way that it can be distributed binary-only in a minimal way

Re: [sword-devel] Compiling SWORD API using MinGW

2008-04-05 Thread Chris Little
Has anyone had any luck compiling Sword on MinGW lately? It worked once upon a time. We even have some Makefile defines specific to MinGW. And I /can/ get Sword to build (though it has lots of problems later in the utilities part of the build process that I haven't yet worked through), but

Re: [sword-devel] Announcing FireBible 0.5.1 - GPLed Firefox font-end

2008-03-30 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Morgan wrote: This kind of announcement really raises in my mind the question How much does a piece of software require to be listed on the CrossWire pages as a project? (such as on the main CrossWire page and the Wiki sidebar) Not all initial concepts that are displayed here reach

Re: [sword-devel] Announcing FireBible 0.5.1 - GPLed Firefox font-end

2008-03-30 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: I agree. The page should reflect a clear, dual personality. One for users, the other for developers, as you have listed it. And the users should be put first. This would be a listing of the major applications, with platform icons, and directions/links to those

Re: [sword-devel] Site redesign (Re: Announcing FireBible 0.5.1 - GPLed Firefox font-end)

2008-03-30 Thread Chris Little
, but should be Talk On Mar 30, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Chris Little wrote: DM Smith wrote: I agree. The page should reflect a clear, dual personality. One for users, the other for developers, as you have listed it. And the users should be put first. This would be a listing of the major

Re: [sword-devel] CDEarth GPL violation

2008-03-27 Thread Chris Little
Steve Dibb wrote: peter wrote: 4) The little slip of paper that comes with it, like the website, makes mention that [t]hrough our special licensing arrangement and because we publish our software directly to you, each trial CD is only USD$14.99 (which as you know is up to 80% off the

Re: [sword-devel] English Bible Versions

2008-03-27 Thread Chris Little
I think certain revisions are significant enough to be identified separately. Examples that come to mind include the KJV 1611 vs. KJV 1769 or the original NASB vs. the NASB 1995 Update. The Caedmon manuscript should really be labeled MS Junius 11 or Codex Junius 11 or such. No one seriously

Re: [sword-devel] CDEarth GPL violation

2008-03-27 Thread Chris Little
I found a nifty little EULA that comes with the CD Earth software. I haven't seen this before, so I assume it's not linked to anywhere, just loaded directly from their installer. This is the only license agreement they provide, no explicit mentions of GPL unless the software itself mentions

Re: [sword-devel] CDEarth GPL violation

2008-03-27 Thread Chris Little
Manfred Bergmann wrote: Actually I really don't undersatand why these people do not come here and tell us what they want to do. To package our software and distrubute it for some money. There would be no problem and we could support that if done in the right way. Maybe they are not

[sword-devel] RSS feed

2008-03-27 Thread Chris Little
I'm a horrible RSS addict myself and I got frustrated working with BibleCS this evening, so I wrote an RSS feed generator for our news page. (Now we just need some new announcements.) It's not completely validating, but it's close enough (works great in Google Reader). Send me suggestions if

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS scope

2008-03-27 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: Troy A. Griffitts wrote: To anyone's knowledge, are we anywhere using scope on work in the OSIS header? Patrick and Jim Albright want to remove it and have it autogenerated from the content, if needed. They were wondering if anyone was using it for anything

Re: [sword-devel] RSS feed

2008-03-27 Thread Chris Little
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using Internet Explorer for my feed reader. And I get 'Feed Code Error', with this message: Reference to undefined entity 'copy'. Line: 139 Character: 324 descriptionlt;img src=http://www.crosswire.org/sword/images/news/books.gifgt;lt;br/gt; We are

Re: [sword-devel] converting imp to sword module

2008-03-27 Thread Chris Little
icudt38.dll is in the same place where you found the compiled imp2vs.exe: http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/utils/win32/ It's not actually the same version as comes with the most recent release of the SWORD Project for Windows, but if you're running a beta of 1.5.10, you'll need the

Re: [sword-devel] imp to sword

2008-03-27 Thread Chris Little
It depends on your system and the Bible, but it shouldn't take more than a minute. It should give constant feedback about what it's doing, too. martin wrote: Do you know how long it takes to convert a Bible from imp into sword with imp2vs? because I just have open a command line and it is

[sword-devel] CDEarth GPL violation

2008-03-26 Thread Chris Little
I went ahead and ordered the two Sword-related CDs from CDEarth to check whether they are in compliance with the GPL. They actually are not, at least when it comes to the CD with The SWORD Project for Windows and MacSword. (The Bible Desktop/JSword CD might be okay, since they include source

Re: [sword-devel] Building a module, would like multiple lemmas

2008-03-19 Thread Chris Little
We have the MorphGNT available in our Beta section: http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModDisp.jsp?modType=Biblesbeta=1 I don't know how up-to-date it is, but I don't believe it will ever be released because I think it pre-dates the decisions we made that resulted in the Wiki entry you

Re: [sword-devel] mod2osis

2008-03-16 Thread Chris Little
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. It worked. Took about 10 minutes. The only problem I have now is, where is the output? Output is to stdout, so you should pipe it to a file. The error messages are to stderr, so there's no need to worry about it showing up in the stdout stream. I

Re: [sword-devel] Wikipedia AfD

2008-03-11 Thread Chris Little
BTW--semi-OT here, but what makes us seem publicity shy or reticent? I suppose we haven't tried to make The SWORD Project (the API) or CrossWire the story, since those are on the developers' side of things. But I think we're happy to have publicity for BT, BD, GS, MacSword, 'The SWORD Project

Re: [sword-devel] Wikipedia AfD

2008-03-10 Thread Chris Little
jonathon wrote: All: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/SwordSearcher is a mass (10 item) deletion proposal that includes the following: * The CrossWire Bible Society; [EDIT: big C, big W] I actually think this article should probably be merged with The SWORD

Re: [sword-devel] Typos in spanish RVA bible module

2008-03-03 Thread Chris Little
The best place to put module issues is in the bug tracker: http://www.crosswire.org/bugs/secure/BrowseProject.jspa?id=10011 --Chris Alonso Graterol wrote: Hello, I've found several typos on the elctronic version of Antigua Reina Valera bible. What's the protocol for

Re: [sword-devel] Is there a converter for Bible mod?

2008-02-26 Thread Chris Little
jamestech wrote: I find some version in plan txt? how could I change it myself? The modules that you think are in plain text are not necessarily in plain text. They're externally indexed and do not necessarily occur in any particular order. Even if they do occur in verse order, since they do

Re: [sword-devel] Web server is down

2008-02-25 Thread Chris Little
Not sure for how long, but the news section of the website is disconnected from the database containing the news. (See http://www.crosswire.org/sword/index.jsp). --Chris DM Smith wrote: FYI: The CrossWire webserver went down about 3 1/2 hrs ago.

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod change

2008-02-25 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: I mostly agree. But once I know that the module is NFC, I'd rather not take the hit. I must have made the KJV into a module 100 or more times before I got it right. What would you think of making normalization the default and using a switch to turn it off? It doesn't

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod change

2008-02-24 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: I have added a -n flag to osis2mod. I'm going to add it to the other major importers (osis2gbs imp2*) just as soon as I get things into a fairly stable state. This flag, to be enabled, requires osis2mod to be compiled with ICU support enabled. -n stands for normalized

Re: [sword-devel] NFC Normalization and osis2mod

2008-02-23 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: The thing I noticed in Sword's ICU filters is that it was not consistent in how it set up the UChar array or converted that back to a SWBuf. Thanks for digging through everything. I will see if I can't make things a little more consistent once I get UTF8NFC debugged. The

Re: [sword-devel] NFC Normalization and osis2mod

2008-02-23 Thread Chris Little
converting between UTF-8 UTF-16 and also when we run various normalizations, converters, transliterators on the UTF-16 itself. DM Smith wrote: On Feb 23, 2008, at 7:46 AM, Chris Little wrote: X*2 could be either doubling the byte size to accommodate conversion from 8-bit chars to 16-bit chars

Re: [sword-devel] NFC Normalization and osis2mod

2008-02-21 Thread Chris Little
I'd prefer we don't completely rewrite the NFC filter, like this patch does. I realize the ICU tutorials demonstrate the C++ interface, but I'm pretty certain it's still just a wrapper around the C interfaces that we were using. I'll take a look at the filters today. --Chris Troy A.

Re: [sword-devel] title not displayed?

2008-02-10 Thread Chris Little
On Feb 10, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Joachim Ansorg wrote: Try to enabled headings in the modulename.conf file. The line GlobalOptionFilter=OSISHeadings should be in the config to show osis headings. OptionFilters allow features (like titles) to be turned OFF. Without their entries in .confs, the

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.5.10 remaining tasks

2008-02-06 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Chris Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: one could ask why you're encoding Bibles with ThML Because ThML is very easy to generate, especially in automated script-based stream editing, and OSIS is not, especially due to the complications of converting relatively free

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.5.10 remaining tasks

2008-02-05 Thread Chris Little
of how to recreate: Switch to (e.g.) the Russian locale. Do a search in the KJV for something you know appears frequently. What displays should be garbage. --Chris On Feb 4, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Chris Little wrote: Fixing searching with non-Roman script locales is the current show- stopper that I

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate versification ....

2008-02-05 Thread Chris Little
Chris Little wrote: On Feb 4, 2008, at 3:33 AM, Barry Drake wrote: I'm not aware of their being slow. What's your basis for saying that? Under BibleCS, it seems faster than it used to be, But even now, BibleCS takes some four or five seconds to load up the Summa Theologica. If most

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.5.10 remaining tasks

2008-02-05 Thread Chris Little
On Feb 5, 2008, at 8:04 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: I would like to see my previously-posted patch for ThML headings applied, to prevent alternate readings from being destroyed by headers. I believe Troy was going to take a closer look at it before applying it. Or... one could ask why

Re: [sword-devel] NFC and osis2mod

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Little
I've been meaning to work on this, but I thought I'd try to point you in the right direction since I'm pretty sure I won't have time in the next couple days. (I'll be at the UTC meeting at Apple--thinking about all things Unicode, but not working on them.) The bugs are almost definitely

Re: [sword-devel] Publication: a working processus?

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Little
On Feb 4, 2008, at 6:54 AM, Sebastien Koechlin wrote: Hello, I sent a new french translation to modules#crosswire.org on Dec 31, 2007, there was questions about license on this list. I resubmit it on Jan 16, 2008. I'm only able to do so much at a time and other releases had higher

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate versification ....

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Little
On Feb 4, 2008, at 3:33 AM, Barry Drake wrote: Jonathan Morgan wrote: If you look in the archives of this mailing list you can see some things that people have been persistently asking for (alternate versification sprints to mind...) I don't want to be discouraging, but given the context of

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.5.10 remaining tasks

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Little
Fixing searching with non-Roman script locales is the current show- stopper that I can think of. I don't recall anything else major, but there might be something in the bug tracker. --Chris On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:53 PM, DM Smith wrote: What more needs to be done to get BibleCS 1.5.10 out?

Re: [sword-devel] XML Numeric character references (entities) in BibleCS

2008-01-31 Thread Chris Little
On Jan 31, 2008, at 1:29 PM, Benny Wasty wrote: Hello, I noticed that BibleCS doesn't seem to be able to display unicode characters encoded as numeric character references (e.g. #246;) in an OSIS module I am currently working on. The characters are just omitted. I guess they should be

Re: [sword-devel] XML Numeric character references (entities) in BibleCS

2008-01-31 Thread Chris Little
On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:08 PM, DM Smith wrote: I imagine there is a C/C++ routine that will convert from an entities codepoint to a UTF-8 Character. The numeric entities can presumably be interpreted as UTF-32 and encoded as UTF-8 on that basis using either ICU's routines or those in Sword.

Re: [sword-devel] thml and scriprefs

2008-01-30 Thread Chris Little
On Jan 29, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Please also note that ThML is no longer actively supported by CrossWire and it is unlikely that we would post a new module that uses ThML. The same goes for GBF. We only actively support OSIS. That's only superficially true. I submit

Re: [sword-devel] thml and scriprefs

2008-01-29 Thread Chris Little
Martin Gruner wrote: What do you mean by actively supported? Did we abandon the ThML filters? We will only work to improve OSIS support. ThML GBF support will not be improved. This has been covered a few times and has been the situation for a number of years. --Chris

Re: [sword-devel] thml and scriprefs

2008-01-29 Thread Chris Little
On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again; I am learning to build modules with the Imitation of Christ. I downloaded the thml version from CCEL and it basically works, my conf file includes: GlobalOptionFilter=ThMLScripref however using

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Little
Barry Drake wrote: Hi Peter . peter wrote: BTW how many variants are there? Chris is the expert on this. As I understand it, the two main schemes in use are the LXX versification and the kjv with and without apocrypha. The only other significant one is the Coptic scheme.

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Little
peter wrote: Being no coder, I can not see how completely new way of encoding Bibles should be the right way forward - particularly as it would result in a) a possibly long period of breakage/poor implementation on various GUIs (+ some GUIs which are perfectly fine now will never get it)

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Little
On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:56 AM, DM Smith wrote: Chris mentioned that the tool to create one exist already: osis2gbs. Perhaps they can be created and put into beta. I would think that having one or more in beta would spur development. I posted an example to beta: DRCgb. I was a little off on

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Little
On Jan 28, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Martin Gruner wrote: For bibles? Does that mean they will be stored as Genbooks in future, at least if a non-KJV versification scheme is used? That is what I understand. I am not sure I like this. Isn't VerseKey etc. prepared to work with dynamic

Re: [sword-devel] new morphology

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: Chris, given this I don't think that it serves much purpose to put this into a module. I see two advantages in encoding this: 1) It is straightforward, much simpler and much smaller. Which will translate into very fast (no I/O). It's not entirely straightforward (in

Re: [sword-devel] New Morphology

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, I appreciate you helping to clear some confusion here since I think that I helped with some of nudging. This is great news, since all Greek modules will have a common morph reference. I think covering all the combinations in the known works would be

Re: [sword-devel] Inconveniences for Catholic bibles and devotionals

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some pretty cool documents.. starting with the new Catechism of the Catholic Church (in spanish), but before that (although not necessary) I thought it would be nice to have a Catholic Bible. Is the CCC copyrighted? I've had an OSIS document of the CCC in

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Morgan wrote: However, I do not think that the objection apparent on this mailing list to even discuss rationally the licensing without essentially saying, We want it this way to stop those evil commercial people from making any money from our hard work supports this goal at all.

Re: [sword-devel] Module Licensing

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Morgan wrote: Try sending something like this... ?? Currently the following modules of those I have downloaded cannot be accessed by anyone without an internet connection, as Crosswire is the only distributor. There are probably quite a few others. You can order CDs from CrossWire.

Re: [sword-devel] new morphology

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
Yes and no. MorphGNT uses the Packard morphology. Robinson covers everything in Packard and then some, so I converted the Packard codes to Robinson format. It should be out in the next release of MorphGNT if it's not in the current one. --Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is great. I was

Re: [sword-devel] Inconveniences for Catholic bibles and devotionals

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
Greg Hellings wrote: The issue here is that the Vulgate has some Psalms which the KJV has split that it lumps together and others which the KJV lumps together split up, and there's an additional Psalm as well. It's very similar to the situation in which Esther and Daniel find themselves in

Re: [sword-devel] Coptic Book module

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
I'm certainly not the arbiter of orthodoxy, but have a couple points to mention. First, CrossWire definitely isn't an Evangelical organization in the sense that we have a statement of faith that aligns with some subset of churches that have been categorized as Evangelical. We're evangelical in

Re: [sword-devel] need help on a project

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
Wade Maxfield wrote: Yes, I had intended to sell a gui (and give it away for free (ie: donationware)). I'm not sure I wanted to do an end run on the GPL, but there are some issues I wished to avoid with the GPL. If it is truly your desire that no one profit from Sword, you do need

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
jonathon wrote: Chris wrote: people who assume GPL means PD, take our work, rename repackage, ... indeed rip them off in much worse ways). Most of what I've seen with commercially distributed Sword Project front ends have been outright GPL violations. As a Bible Society, lawsuits,

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
We don't really need help in deciding how to represent Bibles that don't use the KJV versification. That detail is already decided. We'll be using GenBooks with OSIS-style refs as the keys. So Gen 1:1 goes in /Gen/1/1 and so forth. We can make these Bibles right now. The problem is they

Re: [sword-devel] GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-26 Thread Chris Little
On Jan 25, 2008, at 8:52 PM, Jason Galyon wrote: On that subject Free as in Freedom Is Sword available under a dual license btw? This probably has already been answered but I am failing to find it currently. Sword and all works based on it, including all frontends, are licensed

[sword-devel] new morphology

2008-01-26 Thread Chris Little
We gave a new Greek morphology in the pipeline to replace virtually all of our existing morphologies, and I would be interested to hear people's opinions or concerns, considering it does represent a certain amount of change from the current system. Presently we have 3 morphologies in use:

[sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-26 Thread Chris Little
) Can you send it for me? Or tell me what I need to do to send it? Thanks, Moses Jason Galyon wrote: Chris Little wrote: The only people who would consider the GPL freedom destroying are people who only care about their own freedoms and not those of others (i.e. selfish people). I

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-24 Thread Chris Little
peter wrote: Chris Little wrote: peter wrote: or another point, would a export filter directly for OSIS or THML be a possibility? No, not even remotely possible. technically impossible or no one there to write it? If you're talking about a facility to take any random text file

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-24 Thread Chris Little
jonathon wrote: Chris wrote: We can assume the Word documents are a good source, so proofing is I've seen way too many documents that are not good sources, despite purporting to be so,to assume that they are good. Fundamentally, we at CrossWire do not purport to be a text authority and

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-23 Thread Chris Little
peter wrote: Chris Little wrote: I'm having problems with a hard drive that has most of my module work. So while it was being repaired, I spent a couple hours and made an OSIS doc of the Smith Van Dyck Arabic Bible. Does this mean you have tools to create a module out of a plain numbered

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-23 Thread Chris Little
peter wrote: or another point, would a export filter directly for OSIS or THML be a possibility? No, not even remotely possible. --Chris ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-23 Thread Chris Little
peter wrote: Chris Little wrote: peter wrote: Chris Little wrote: I'm having problems with a hard drive that has most of my module work. So while it was being repaired, I spent a couple hours and made an OSIS doc of the Smith Van Dyck Arabic Bible. Does this mean you have tools

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-22 Thread Chris Little
jonathon wrote: Peter wrote: I do not know how to export or import from esword. Exporting the text is not an issue. Several tools are available to do that. The _big_ issue is that the plain text./XML formatting needs both proof reading, and copy editing, prior to import into the TSP

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-21 Thread Chris Little
On Jan 20, 2008, at 11:09 PM, John H. wrote: I was wondering how to get the vowels to display in the ASV module? A new module would need to be created. A word document with all the vowels is available here... http://www.arabicbible.com/bible/doc_bible.htm In the ASV version. To use that

Re: [sword-devel] Module Submission

2008-01-17 Thread Chris Little
) to the below email but I have no idea where they are in the pipeline. Could we have a list on the website or the Wiki that would list when mods were submitted, approved, rejected, tested, by whom etc. That would be helpful. In HIs Grace, Robin Chris Little wrote: Send submissions

Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries and empty footnotes

2008-01-17 Thread Chris Little
Luke Plant wrote: On Tuesday 15 January 2008 00:22:26 Chris Little wrote: Okay, the module is up in beta. (It may take a while to show up.) You also changed the MinimumVersion to 1.5.10 (I discovered this after not seeing it show up for a day, and then FTPing in manually

Re: [sword-devel] SwordReader - Forums Entry

2008-01-17 Thread Chris Little
Sorry it hadn't occurred to me to add new forums at any point in the last 4 years Anyway, SwordReader and Bible Desktop now have their own forums. --Chris David Trotz wrote: Troy, Can we get a Forum Entry for SwordReader under Sword for Handhelds? I will try to keep up with and answer

Re: [sword-devel] modules upload etc - suggestion

2008-01-15 Thread Chris Little
peter wrote: One of the things which are recurrent on the mailing list is the difficulty + slowness of getting a module through the door - i.e. both to put it into beta and to get it from beta eventually transferred into release. I don't know what you mean by 'alpha' since we have no such

Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries and empty footnotes

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Little
Okay, the module is up in beta. (It may take a while to show up.) I made one small change to the name, since, by convention, we don't include possessives in module names. It should show up as CalvinCommentaries. --Chris Luke Plant wrote: Chris (Little -- I believe you are the right person

Re: [sword-devel] question on possible update to ChiUns

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Little
I suspect we could come up with a way to merge the existing featureful ChiUns with a corrected underlying text, but some of the issues raised here could be solved by simply going back to the original source. It has correctly divided words. I don't know how to judge any other corrections since

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS and Farsi

2008-01-05 Thread Chris Little
peter wrote: Having finally had a chance to look at the new version of BibleCS and the FarsiOPV module two problems come to light: Which version is that, exactly? 1.5.10pre4? (This version number will appear as 1.5.10.4 if you check the file properties in Windows.) Just to let you know, I'm

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS and Farsi

2008-01-05 Thread Chris Little
peter wrote: Wrt Win98 we discussed this once DM, I think it is nowadays irrelevant for my traget group - everyone is on WinXp and even Vista, apparently I think we stopped supporting Win9x officially a few years ago, but we already had all of the support for Arabic that Win9x needed, so

Re: [sword-devel] Bug in Sword osis2mod??

2008-01-05 Thread Chris Little
peter wrote: I tried tonight to create a short module (1 Tim) with osis2mod, but run into trouble as the computer kept running at 100% load and nearly killed itself dt overheating. I had used following commandline osis2mod testdir 1tim.xml 0 0 4 I can't recreate any problem running

Re: [sword-devel] Problems with imp2ld not responding

2008-01-05 Thread Chris Little
I also see no problem with imp2ld and would recommend upgrading to the latest build that I just posted. --Chris Alonso Graterol wrote: Hello, Almost one year ago I received support from Karl and other members dealing with a module construction for BibleDesktop. At that moment Karl

Re: [sword-devel] Macedonian Bible

2008-01-01 Thread Chris Little
According to http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=mkd Macedonian got it's first Bible in 1990, so this is copyrighted. --Chris David Haslam wrote: The Macedonian translation of the Bible is online at http://www.mkbible.net/ http://www.mkbible.net/ This is the language spoken

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: New French Bibles

2008-01-01 Thread Chris Little
David Haslam wrote: These links are broken now! :-(( The Bible Martin, 1744, a french revision of the Geneva Bible, available here: http://biblemartin.keo.in/ We've had a beta module of this for a while. It will be released as soon as we ship BibleCS 1.5.10. A French version of

Re: [sword-devel] daemon wanted, willing to pay reasonable fee

2007-12-31 Thread Chris Little
Is your bible program project going to be GPL licensed? Please do correct me if I'm wrong, but this sounds a bit like an attempt at an end run of the GPL: using a (GPL) daemon to provide a socket interface to a non-GPL UI. We're really not very keen on the commercial exploitation of our years

Re: [sword-devel] Sharmahd Computing UniPad: a text editor for Unicode files

2007-12-31 Thread Chris Little
David Haslam wrote: Perhaps it wasn't so obvious unless you've tried it, SC Unipad comes with a popup keyboard which can be used to type (with the mouse) from [almost] every Unicode page - which means you can type script in non-Latin languages such as Thai, Arabic, Hindi, Greek, Hebrew, etc.

Re: [sword-devel] French Darby Bible translation

2007-12-31 Thread Chris Little
This translation is copyrighted, so we cannot use it. --Chris Sebastien Koechlin wrote: Hello, I just submitted to the sword project a new french translation. You can get the OSIS file at http://koocotte.org/darby/darby.osis.bz2 (1.3MB) or http://koocotte.org/darby/darby.osis.zip

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