Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: A lot here depends on evaluation of pros and cons. I personally support HTTP, zipped modules, and one central file (like mods.d.tar.gz

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire website showing all known modules available

2010-11-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: On the one hand, I appreciate a desire for a combined all-repos view of what's available. It would be useful in some ways. On the other hand, I find it problematic for several reasons. - It depends on finding all

Re: [sword-devel] HTTP Transport support (was: Remote Module Repository Wiki)

2010-11-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Just recall that HEAD presumably takes another roundtrip to the server, adding latency, while InstallSize just requires you to have the conf files you have probably already got. (In reality, it's probably not that much of a problem, but I'm obviously feeling paranoid about latency today ;) ).

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire website showing all known modules available

2010-11-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com writes: I tend to dislike software that forces me to search in certain ways: whether it's You must select the language before we show you what's available or You must select

Re: [sword-devel] Holman Christian Standard Bible

2010-11-07 Thread Jonathan Morgan
I was thinking about this recently when I saw that they were interested in making more things free (I have the OliveTree free version, and use it too). However, looking at http://www.hcsbstudybible.com/b/weblog/archive/2010/10/11/new-hcsb-ebook-editions-available-now-more-coming-soon.aspxseems to

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire website showing all known modules available (was: Remote Module Repository Wiki)

2010-11-07 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.orgwrote: On 11/05/2010 02:02 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: 2. Offering a list of downloads at CrossWire tends to suggest that they are the *only* books available. While I can download zip files from Xiphos FTP directly

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-07 Thread Jonathan Morgan
A lot here depends on evaluation of pros and cons. I personally support HTTP, zipped modules, and one central file (like mods.d.tar.gz) to give a list of all the books and where to find them for at least some of the following reasons. I will try and capture why succinctly: For ZIPs: 1.

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-05 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: I think Troy, the concern is correct. For the publisher with some decent IT muscle and budget a proper repo must be better, but for the small town church with a website and a couple of modules to share - zip and http is

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-05 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Von: Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com (though I'm not convinced that a large percentage has these tools at their disposable or is aware of them). At which point that particular debate probably ends :-) Indeed

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-05 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com writes: 2. Offering a list of downloads at CrossWire tends to suggest that they are the *only* books available. While I can download zip files from Xiphos FTP directly

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-05 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.orgwrote: On 11/05/2010 02:00 PM, DM Smith wrote: IIRC: Troy said these were there to satisfy a publisher's request that some info from a module's conf be shown for modules installed this way. It only ever worked in

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-05 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com writes: You can access http://ftp.xiphos.org/sword/mods.d.tar.gz, crack it open, and see what's available. Just two assumptions: - the zip subdir is at the same level as mods.d

Re: [sword-devel] Support more alternative verse syntaxes, e.g. Luke 13, 12

2010-11-02 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Are you suggesting that we support making the choice of reference system an option (e.g. by default we support Genesis 3:12, 15, 19, but you can configure it so that it supports Genesis 3, 12. 15. 19), or that we try to make the parser handle both reference systems simultaneously? The latter

Re: [sword-devel] Hyphenation in the context of narrow displays

2010-10-27 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Slightly different scope, but one project that does hyphenation in Javascript (seemingly based on the LaTeX algorithm) is at http://code.google.com/p/hyphenator/. It is used in the new version of BPBible. I don't know how well it adapts to Biblical texts, but it says it supports a number of

Re: [sword-devel] SVG module (an idea)

2010-10-26 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:43 PM, David davidsli...@gmx.net wrote: On Tuesday, September 21, 2010 01:50:11 pm Peter von Kaehne wrote: Hi guys, I just saw this here in Wikimedia commons:

Re: [sword-devel] SVG module (an idea)

2010-09-21 Thread Jonathan Morgan
http://www.openbible.info/geo/ has geographical data. http://www.biblemap.org/ has a Biblical place app built on top of Google Maps. I'm not sure of how much of what you want this does, but I think Xiphos links to it when you choose to look up a map for a place. Jon On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at

[sword-devel] Shorter book name abbreviations

2010-09-19 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Hi all, We have received a request that all books have 2 letter abbreviations, like Luke does (Lk). Full text below: Sometimes I do a lot of searches, and it would also be faster if the abbreviations for books were reduced to 2 consonants, like rv for Revelation or rm for Romans, rather than

Re: [sword-devel] Shorter book name abbreviations

2010-09-19 Thread Jonathan Morgan
. That would allow the user to set their own two or even one character abbreviations if they wanted. Of course, I could be wildly mistaken in that. --Greg On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, We have received a request that all books

Re: [sword-devel] Shorter book name abbreviations

2010-09-19 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.orgwrote: On 9/19/2010 7:27 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: They are plain text files, so it is certainly possible to edit them.� However, anything that is editable will probably not be edited by very many people, so I think

Re: [sword-devel] Shorter book name abbreviations

2010-09-19 Thread Jonathan Morgan
the application, then they can select P to mean Philemon if they use that book frequently or N to be Nehemiah. It could also solve this user's problem directly by allowing him to provide his own set of 2-character abbreviations. --Greg On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Jonathan Morgan

Re: [sword-devel] bpbible Translation Error

2010-09-12 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Hi Tom, On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Thomas Thorstad to...@aheart4seasia.orgwrote: Hey All, I have about 70% of the Lao Language completed for BPBible. The other is just not able to translate at this time, mostly because it isn’t needed. However I am receiving an error message when

Re: [sword-devel] Managing Bible translation

2010-09-05 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Hi Mattias, I do not have strong opinions on this. However, the last place I have seen similar things discussed was the Open Scriptures group ( http://groups.google.com/group/open-scriptures). I am not sure whether it was merely discussion of ideas to work or whether anything was implemented,

Re: [sword-devel] Crossreferences

2010-08-16 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Other sources of cross-references: The TSK has a fairly rich and detailed set of cross-references, though I'm not sure how useful it is without the verses being linked to the particular word(s) that form the theme rather than a huge list for the entire verse. OpenBible.info has a collection of

Re: [sword-devel] Crossreferences

2010-08-16 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Trevor Jenkins trevor.jenk...@suneidesis.com wrote: On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: Other sources of cross-references: The TSK has a fairly rich and detailed set of cross-references, ... Hardly the most rigorous academic

Re: [sword-devel] Front end compatibility to aV11N (all frontends please)

2010-08-11 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Wednesday, August 11, 2010, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: On 11/08/10 04:03, Jonathan Morgan wrote: We do not have a schedule for supporting it. That is a shame. Is this an active decision against supporting it, an expression of not seeing it as a priority _right_now_ or simply

[sword-devel] BPBible 0.4.7 released

2010-08-10 Thread Jonathan Morgan
I have just released BPBible 0.4.7, which is principally a bug-fix release. A list of changes can be found at http://bpbible.com/news/bpbible-0.4 .7-changes http://bpbible.com/news/bpbible-0.4.6-changes. ___ sword-devel mailing list:

Re: [sword-devel] Front end compatibility to aV11N (all frontends please)

2010-08-10 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Would it be possible to get some short feedback which frontends are capable of what aV11N wise? Also if support is not completed, does a schedule exist when support will be there? BPBible has no specific support for

Re: [sword-devel] BPBible 0.4.7 released

2010-08-10 Thread Jonathan Morgan
for 0.4.6 were still included in 0.4.7. Jon On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.comwrote: I have just released BPBible 0.4.7, which is principally a bug-fix release. A list of changes can be found at http://bpbible.com/news/ bpbible-0.4.7-changes http://bpbible.com

Re: [sword-devel] BPBible 0.4.7 released

2010-08-10 Thread Jonathan Morgan
That list of changes was actually from BPBible 0.4.6. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:57 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: On 10/08/10 15:17, Jonathan Morgan wrote: I have just released BPBible 0.4.7, which is principally a bug-fix release. A list of changes can be found at http

[sword-devel] BPBible 0.4.6 released

2010-05-24 Thread Jonathan Morgan
I have just released BPBible 0.4.6, with three new languages, coloured tags and many other improvements. A fairly complete list of changes is at http://bpbible.com/news/bpbible-0.4 .6-changes. Thanks are due once again to our translators and other contributors. Jon

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos Personal Commentary into PocketSword

2010-05-04 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.orgwrote: Yup, you're right. I didn't even notice (didn't recall, haven't thought about in eons) that the link encoding uses a Xiphos-internal reference. And we fill it with HTML because that's the nature of the editor that

Re: [sword-devel] Strong Numbered TSK Commentary [Re: TSK Commentary into generic cross-references (Peter von Kaehne)]

2010-04-26 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Strong's numbers may work if you have the numbers in both your source text and your target text (and I don't think we have many non-English Bibles tagged), but I'm still not sure that: a. Inferring them will be straightforward (just as an example, from memory the coverage of the Hebrew in the KJV

Re: [sword-devel] frontend features, their applicability -- consistency?

2010-04-15 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Somewhat related: when talking about syncing user-created content, I found Craig Rairdin's BibleTech:2008 talk Beyond Mobility: Synchronizing User-Created Data Between Platforms, Readers, and Vendors interesting (though I'm not sure that it solves all of the problems, because some of them

Re: [sword-devel] The Lexham English Bible (module LEB)

2010-04-15 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:40 PM, David Haslam d.has...@ukonline.co.ukwrote: Today I installed the new module LEB, and began to examine it. Idioms in the OSIS XML download are tagged like this: (Second part of Col.4.18) Remember my seg type=x-idiom˻imprisonment˼/segnoteLiterally

Re: [sword-devel] subsection references -- OSIS equivalent of ThML #anchor?

2010-03-19 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Hi Karl, I first asked about this over a year ago, and got no response (see http://n4.nabble.com/Linking-to-a-specific-location-in-an-article-td357981.html). As I didn't really have time for the project I was wanting it for (linking the table of contents entries in dictionary articles like in

Re: [sword-devel] bug: InstallMgr habit -vs- repo refresh (Re: Bela module in CrossWire Experimental)

2010-02-26 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:57 AM, David Haslam d.has...@ukonline.co.ukwrote: Hi Karl, Thanks for this extended description, and for the acknowledgment that in some sense there is what I would call quirky behaviour. I realize that quality should be thought of it terms of meeting

Re: [sword-devel] Watching websites where our source texts come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Jonathan Morgan
I use Page2RSS for this kind of thing, which I find fairly good. I get quite enough email already. Jon On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:21 AM, David Haslam d.has...@ukonline.co.ukwrote: Another useful service is http://www.changedetection.com/

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS variants

2010-01-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 5:18 AM, Daniel Owens dhow...@pmbx.net wrote: On 1/8/2010 11:22 AM, Matthew Talbert wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Daniel Owensdhow...@pmbx.net  wrote: Okay, I think I understand better. I think the main concern with keeping a variant as a toggled option is

[sword-devel] Correct place to report bugs

2009-12-27 Thread Jonathan Morgan
I notice that the CrossWire FAQ currently says to email sword-b...@crosswire.org, while my memory from this list suggests JIRA is the correct place to report problems. Should this change? Are software issues and module issues reported to different places? (I know they have different JIRA

Re: [sword-devel] Python bindings for libsword with SIP

2009-11-28 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Troy Melhase troy.melh...@gmail.com wrote: We probably could replace SWIG with SIP, but it is unlikely we would do it soon just because BPBible works and works now with what is there.  The changes you describe would be far more likely to benefit the Python

Re: [sword-devel] Python bindings for libsword with SIP

2009-11-27 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Troy Melhase troy.melh...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I've created a Python binding for libsword via SIP[1].  The code is here:    http://github.com/natural/sword-sip The binding is mostly complete, certainly the larger classes and methods.  I'd like it if

Re: [sword-devel] language/locale codes

2009-11-11 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org writes: Bokmål is sometimes Bokmaal and even Bokmal A-ring apparently tickles a bug in GTK UTF8 handling.  We attempted to get all the more-or-less common native names into Xiphos'

Re: [sword-devel] language/locale codes

2009-11-11 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:36 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On Nov 11, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org writes: U+00E5 is the unicode code point, not the encoding. In hex the utf-8 encoding would be C3 A5. In ISO-8859-1, it would be E5.

Re: [sword-devel] Bibles without paragraphing

2009-11-07 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: We have many many Bibles that lack any kind of paragraphing markup. These will tend to be rendered as a single big block of text per chapter, which is rather ugly. Some front ends offer a verse-per-line option where

Re: [sword-devel] Linking to General Books

2009-10-19 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: Ideally, osisRefs should point at references using a standard reference scheme. Obviously that won't exist for every work, but I suspect there is a standard reference scheme for the Book of Concord. I find a description

Re: [sword-devel] The MBROLA Project - Towards a Freely Available Multilingual Speech Synthesizer

2009-10-18 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:53 AM, David Haslam d.has...@ukonline.co.uk wrote: Has anyone come across this before? http:// http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/mbrola/ The goal of the MBROLA project is to obtain a set a high quality speech synthesizers for as many languages as possible, free for

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS feature support and questions

2009-10-02 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Brian J. Dumont bdum...@ameritech.net wrote: Hi all, I'm preparing a commentary in OSIS, and have some feature requests : OSIS tables additional hi types: small-caps, underline, super, sub (small-caps is most important of these, but I'd appreciate all four)

Re: [sword-devel] Windows users as poor cousins?

2009-10-02 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: OK, I'll bite.  Let's run with this discussion a bit... Greg Hellings wrote: Most Linux or FreeBSD users are familiar with a source tree compile with autotools. Really?  In 2009?  Do you have a source or at least

Re: [sword-devel] Beta testing - frontend questions

2009-09-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Matthew Talbertransom1...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the dumb question, what is av11n ? Cheers Tonny Kohar Alternate versification. See http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Alternate_Versification I have slightly updated that page to mention 1.6 rather than 1.5.12.

Re: [sword-devel] swlocale question

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Jonathan Marsdenjmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: How all that fits together, and how SWORD-using apps should fit it all together, is potentially fairly complex and so IMO worth documenting. For example, if a SWORD app has 4 modules open, each a bible in a different

Re: [sword-devel] swlocale question

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Matthew Talbertransom1...@gmail.com wrote: i don't know why you say it isn't supported. it's fairly simple to set the locale of a versekey on the fly. no application supports it that i know of I didn't say it cannot be done, I said it was not supported, at

Re: [sword-devel] indexed search discrepancy

2009-08-30 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Just on the topic of stop words, I think that it is worth considering including stopwords. They can be important in quite a few Bible searches (ones that spring to mind are Son of man, Son of God and the son). Jon ___ sword-devel mailing list:

Re: [sword-devel] a new source for modules?

2009-08-30 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Chris Littlechris...@crosswire.org wrote: Peter von Kaehne wrote: Peter von Kaehne wrote: Just started to look around Google Books and saw the huge collection of public domain books scanned, OCRd and transformed into epub books. E.g. here Wesley's complete

Re: [sword-devel] Bible-Discovery - non-free program using SWORD modules

2009-08-28 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:36 AM, DM Smithdmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On 08/27/2009 03:32 PM, Matthew Talbert wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Peter von Kaehneref...@gmx.net  wrote: David Haslam wrote: Has anyone seen this site before? http://www.bible-discovery.com/

Re: [sword-devel] RSV/NRSV: Nope.

2009-08-25 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Maurits Obbinkl...@obbink.org wrote: Hi list, Despite the policy it some how seems to have legitimately appeared for Palmbibleplus (open source GPL2 palm bible reader) albeit with some strings attached. have a look at:

Re: [sword-devel] Bibledit Sword module generation?

2009-08-21 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnsonkahunapule_john...@sil.org wrote: Matthew Talbert wrote: Is there any hope of getting Bibledit's Sword module generator working with Sword well enough that it actually works in the near future? Are you trying to generate a module

Re: [sword-devel] Distributing modules with SWORD frontends

2009-08-03 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Ian Wagneriwagn...@students.bju.edu wrote: Hey, I have been asked on several occasions if it would be possible for me to bundle a Bible or 2 with the App Store release of PocketSword. I am aware that this is not allowed for many modules since the license to

Re: [sword-devel] Often-requested yet never-available Bibles

2009-07-27 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Jonathan Marsdenjmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: Jonathan Morgan wrote: On May 10th, 2007, he reported having got a reply to the effect that the NIV costs US$10,000 to license and then US$10 per copy. There is also a rather detailed approval process. ... I

Re: [sword-devel] Often-requested yet never-available Bibles

2009-07-27 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:24 AM, Jónatas Ferreirajonatasferre...@mac.com wrote: Em 2009/07/27, às 13:59, sword-devel-requ...@crosswire.org escreveu: It doesn't seem all that impossible.  At those prices, mental math says the breakeven is 500 copies.  You just need the $1 up front. If

Re: [sword-devel] Often-requested yet never-available Bibles

2009-07-26 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 4:37 AM, David Haslamd.has...@ukonline.co.uk wrote: Jolon Faichney (the author the Go Bible program for mobile phones) approached Zondervan in 2007, to request their permission for the NIV. On May 10th, 2007, he reported having got a reply to the effect that the NIV

[sword-devel] BPBible 0.4.5 release

2009-07-20 Thread Jonathan Morgan
I have just released BPBible 0.4.5, with comments on verses, significant improvements to topic management, selection of book name language, and other improvements. A fairly complete list of changes is at http://bpbible.com/news/bpbible-0.4.5-changes. Jon

Re: [sword-devel] KJV beta

2009-06-02 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Ben Morgan benpmor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:57 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On May 31, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Ben Morgan wrote: It seems to work in BPBible, with one exception: Currently pre-verse canonical headings are turned

Re: [sword-devel] An abundance of: $Id: swmgr.h 2321 2009-04-13 01:17:00Z scribe $

2009-05-24 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: It's probably harmless.  But there seem to be more than ten files in the SWORD codebase that identify themselves as being: $Id: swmgr.h 2321 2009-04-13 01:17:00Z scribe $ What is peculiar: none of them are actually

[sword-devel] BPBible 0.4.4 release

2009-05-20 Thread Jonathan Morgan
I have just released BPBible 0.4.4. This release is largely a bug-fix release, but also adds a number of usability improvements. BPBible 0.4.3 contained several important regressions from BPBible 0.4, so the BPBible developers strongly recommend that anyone using BPBible 0.4.3 upgrade to 0.4.4 as

Re: [sword-devel] feature request: module manager enhancement

2009-05-13 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Kermit Kiser b...@kermitkiser.com wrote: Ditto. My BSV module is nowhere near ready for submission to CrossWire so I publish the alpha on my web site. BibleDesktop can access it but Sword requires an FTP site. I can't afford an FTP site. If HTTP support were

Re: [sword-devel] feature request: module manager enhancement

2009-05-13 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Daniel Owens dhow...@pmbx.net wrote: You've got my vote. It seems to be an understandable confusion that zipped modules are available but most front-ends don't support their use. BPBible implemented the installation of modules using zipped archives, and it

Re: [sword-devel] Autotools Bug?

2009-05-12 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: Greg Hellings wrote: To test the building process of BibleTime, which I do work with, I often build against sword-svn.  Having the autogen.sh keeps me from having to remember what autotools options are needed, etc.

Re: [sword-devel] What is the command to retrieve text by args like Genesis 1:1

2009-05-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Wei-Wei Guo wwgu...@gmail.com wrote: Luke Plant 写道: Hi Luke, I'm presuming you want to write in Python. You need to build the Sword Python SWIG bindings (from the sword source tarball), and I have some Python code here which should provide a basis for what

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.6.x Localization (Ps 151)

2009-05-07 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:33 AM, jonathon jonathon.bl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 01:42, Greg Hellings  wrote: as it is in my NRSV, as are 148-150.  There is no mention of 151, but I have no idea if

Re: [sword-devel] 3 John 1:14-15 (versification) in existing SWORD modules

2009-05-03 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:41 PM, David Haslam d.has...@ukonline.co.uk wrote: Online editions of several Spanish Bibles have the 3 John verse 15 as the reference for the second part of what in the KJV is in verse 14. Example: The 1858 Reina Valera NT has (e.g. at the Unbound Bible site) 13.    

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification

2009-05-03 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson kahunap...@mpj.cx wrote: DM Smith wrote: A good place for this would be: www.crosswire.org/wiki/Alternate_Versification. Just add a section that gives: The name of the versification, the description of the versification and the

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification

2009-04-26 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: DM Smith wrote: I'd like to make a change to osis2mod to have it report the supported alternate versifications that can be used as an argument to -v. Ideally, I'd like the flag value and a short description. How

Re: [sword-devel] Library Doxygen documentation

2009-04-26 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hmmm, the website started working again.  Good. I now have copies of the Doxygen generation from 1.6.0RC2 and HEAD r2337 (the current

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification

2009-04-26 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Jonathan Morgan wrote: I think that the versification should be shown as part of the module information (after all, it is part of the module configuration), Thanks for the comments Jon.  It does currently kindof

Re: [sword-devel] Notice in licence agreement

2009-04-25 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On 4/24/09, Eeli Kaikkonen eekai...@mail.student.oulu.fi wrote: Quoting DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org: I like your suggestion. Give that CC are legal licenses, it appears that this summary is complete, perhaps drafted by lawyers :0 The problem with it is that it's too long. I don't want

Re: [sword-devel] linking / testsuite

2009-04-23 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: Ben Morgan wrote: If you have 66 books of the Bible and many different ways of referencing them, testing every single way isn't necessarily all that easy. Then multiply that by every locale that is there. A

Re: [sword-devel] my status / SWORD release

2009-04-21 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: Matthew Talbert wrote: isa 1 goes to 1 Samuel isaiah 1 goes to Rev 1:1 I don't know of any other parsing errors in particular, but these two make me worried that perhaps there are. I just committed a corrected

[sword-devel] BPBible 0.4.3 release

2009-04-14 Thread Jonathan Morgan
I have just released BPBible 0.4.3. A fairly complete list of changes is at http://www.bpbible.com/news/bpbible-0.4.3-changes, though it is most likely that I have missed something. Jon ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] File Compression (Was: Making Import Easier)

2009-04-07 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Mike Hart just_mik...@yahoo.com wrote: On this subject, why are ALL modules (especially beta mods) compressed? Once upon a time, compression made the world of POTS (telephone)

Re: [sword-devel] Making Import Easier

2009-04-07 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: Matthew Talbert wrote: There is one serious advantage to adding import tools to a frontend (ie, on Windows). There is a tremendous amount of content in ThML at CCEL, but the licensing prohibits distributing said

Re: [sword-devel] Making Import Easier

2009-04-07 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson kahunap...@mpj.cx wrote: Chris Little wrote: We post Windows binaries because most Windows users don't have a compiler. We don't post Linux binaries because

Re: [sword-devel] [Pkg-crosswire-devel] Bibledit and Biblememorizer packages

2009-04-02 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Forwarding to sword-devel. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:58 AM, DM Smith dmsmith...@yahoo.com wrote: There is another issue with 1.5.12 that needs to be tackled and that is of a v11n personal commentary. I.e. that is to include the apocrypha. I think that Xiphos is on the right track when it

Re: [sword-devel] [bt-devel] Judges: Judg or Jud? and the handling of invalid references

2009-03-28 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: I think I've found an interesting bug... or maybe more than one? This is a module problem, so I have CC'ed sword-devel. In ISBE, references to verses in Judges use the abbreviation Jud for the book name.  See the

Re: [sword-devel] TEI external references with osisRef

2009-03-19 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Eeli Kaikkonen eekai...@mail.student.oulu.fi wrote: Quoting DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org: In the light of versification and that many biblical references refer to specific works that might not be an installed module, let alone a module at all, what should

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

2009-03-17 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: Ben Morgan wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:04 AM, mmital mital.m...@gmail.com mailto:mital.m...@gmail.com wrote:    Hi,    As Chris pointed out, all front-ends *have* to use GPL v2. So the    public domain

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

2009-03-17 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: Jonathan Morgan wrote: It is not backward, it is a pure statement of facts, which you can find quite clearly in the GPL v2 FAQ http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-faq.html#GPLModuleLicense. You need

Re: [sword-devel] [sword-support] deuterocanonical support

2009-03-16 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: A couple quick clarifications about av11n and others... There are technically 2 routes to support this under development: 1) ripping out the hardcoded KJV canon.h offsets and replacing them with VerseMgr, which

Re: [sword-devel] encryption and integrity checking.

2009-03-11 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:29 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On Mar 11, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: One of the problems which has come up again and again when discussing with publishers has been the worry that texts which are released to CrossWire become an easy

Re: [sword-devel] what problem are you trying to solve? (Re: encryption and integrity checking.)

2009-03-11 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: I wonder why we stress so much over encryption and avoidance of copying, right down to copy/paste.  Nobody else does. Libronix, which I believe has the strongest per-user license mechanism and encryption facility in

Re: [sword-devel] Tagging verses and verse lists

2009-03-10 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Eeli Kaikkonen eekai...@mail.student.oulu.fi wrote: Quoting Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com: I'll add to this: f) Should support passages, not just individual verses (the definition of a passage is interesting - after looking at my notes that I take, I'm

Re: [sword-devel] Tagging verses and verse lists

2009-03-09 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: The thread I pull up here has some relevance 1) it was never concluded in theory and certainly no conclusions ever put into practice 2) With more and more applications becoming crossplatform there will be a growing and

[sword-devel] Passage lists as user editable modules (was Re: Wiki front end comparison - a intermediate summary)

2009-03-01 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: I have worked now several hours on the wiki comparison page. ... d) Bookmarks/tags/lists - all these appear essentially similar as a concept, but with some drastic differences in terms of access, usability and sub

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison - a intermediate summary

2009-03-01 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Brian Fernandes infernalprot...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, Truly a great effort and a good list of features for frontend authors to refer to and improve. I want to edit the FireBible rows a bit, but would like to make a few clarifications first; I will wait for

Re: [sword-devel] Getting rid of BibleCS (was Re: [bt-devel] Eureka!!)

2009-02-27 Thread Jonathan Morgan
All, This is not in reply to any particular email, but a general statement. I am afraid that I have used overly emotive words and said things in haste that I might not have said if I had thought longer and harder. It may also have appeared too hasty and jumped to conclusions too fast: if so,

[sword-devel] Getting rid of BibleCS (was Re: [bt-devel] Eureka!!)

2009-02-26 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Congratulations guys!!! This is great news!  Our Windows users now have choices 4+ choices!   We're really going to have to redo our CD autorun splash to present these choices to our users. This is now the time to

Re: [sword-devel] Getting rid of BibleCS (was Re: [bt-devel] Eureka!!)

2009-02-26 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Eeli Kaikkonen eekai...@mail.student.oulu.fi wrote: Quoting Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Congratulations guys!!! This is great news!  Our Windows users now have choices

Re: [sword-devel] Getting rid of BibleCS (was Re: [bt-devel] Eureka!!)

2009-02-26 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:49 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: Jonathan Morgan wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Congratulations guys!!! This is great news!  Our Windows users now have choices 4+ choices!   We're really going

Re: [sword-devel] Reality check (was: Getting rid of BibleCS (was Re: [bt-devel] Eureka!!))

2009-02-26 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Jonathan Morgan wrote: This is now the time to consider again removing the unsupported Sword for Windows, which is condemned by many and misleads many about the potential of the Sword platform because it appears

Re: [sword-devel] Reality check

2009-02-26 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: Hi there .. Peter von Kaehne wrote: We should though make clear - once BT is released - that there are three flagship applications on Windows and that BibleCS is not anymore unique. I still feel it ought to be

Re: [sword-devel] SwordWeb and Javascript/AJAX

2009-02-23 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Just to get some feedback here : Currently Swordweb largely does not rely on Javascript - and the few places where it does use Javascript, can be turned off + functionality is then done on the server. We are thinking

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