On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:20 AM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT
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Its been copyrighted by Continuum Analytics, Inc.. will that be problem?
No, that's not a problem, you simply copy their BSD license into your
code if you are reusing it.
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Instead of using Bokeh i will use their concept to create our backend which
will render plots into browser like they do by using a server. i will write
that server on my own just to get the static files. And i will create link
between json and server so that the process can be stopped after
And also, i will use mathbox.js instead of Three.js as they already have
the code base which i intend to create, so writing them on my own will not
be a good choice.
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT sahilshekhawa...@gmail.com
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Instead of using Bokeh i will use their
my proposal is at
https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2014-Application-Sahil-Shekhawat:-Web-based-backend-for-SymPy's-plotting-module-and-3D-plotting
please spare some time to suggest changes in it.
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:04 PM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT sahilshekhawa...@gmail.com
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And
SymPy is also copyrighted. The important thing is the license, which
is BSD (the same as SymPy), which basically says you can take the
source code and do whatever you want with it (read it, it's quite
short).
The dependencies make it not suitable for the App Engine (though we
don't *have* to
Aaron,
But i have proposed something different, without using any library other
than three.js.
can you please take a look at
https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2014-Application-Sahil-Shekhawat%3A-Three.js-backend-for-SymPy%27s-plotting-module
.
I just want to user three.js and create a
Is there any reason not to use MathBox.js? Seems like you'll have to write
very similar code to what is already implemented there.
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:07 PM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT sahilshekhawa...@gmail.com
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Aaron,
But i have proposed something
Yeah! That will be nice!
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Jason Moore moorepa...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there any reason not to use MathBox.js? Seems like you'll have to write
very similar code to what is already implemented there.
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On Wed, Mar 19,
And I can focus more on creating a python base which will make the JSON
rather than concentrating on graphs and animations (Three.js)
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:09 AM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT sahilshekhawa...@gmail.com
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Yeah! That will be nice!
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Jason Moore
Jason,
I have my proposal at
https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2014-Application-Sahil-Shekhawat%3A-Three.js-backend-for-SymPy%27s-plotting-module
Its raw but if you can advice me, it would be nice.
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:11 AM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT sahilshekhawa...@gmail.com
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And I
I don't have much time left for the deadline.
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:13 AM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT sahilshekhawa...@gmail.com
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Jason,
I have my proposal at
https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2014-Application-Sahil-Shekhawat%3A-Three.js-backend-for-SymPy%27s-plotting-module
Its raw
And I can focus more on creating a python base which will make the JSON
rather than concentrating on graphs and animations (Three.js)
Doesn't SymPy already essentially have this? E.g.
from sympy import *
from sympy.plotting.plot import SurfaceOver2DRangeSeries
x, y = symbols('x y')
I completely agree with you david but
1.we still need the cameras, lights, canvas,
2.we are using mathbox.js, I guess that json for it will be different.
3.Creating a server for the local users which will render the static files
and javascript like Bokeh
Thanks for pointing out that we also have
David,
Then what you suggest i should do to intoduce 3D plotting in Sympy or
Gamma/Live
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:23 AM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT sahilshekhawa...@gmail.com
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I completely agree with you david but
1.we still need the cameras, lights, canvas,
2.we are using mathbox.js, I guess
Sahil,
I was just unsure what else exactly was needed on the Python end - I didn't
account for the lighting, etc.
David
On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:56:44 PM UTC-7, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT wrote:
David,
Then what you suggest i should do to intoduce 3D plotting in Sympy or
Gamma/Live
On Thu,
It wouldn't be much but along with other things it will be like creating a
separate base on which many other libraries can also be used like server.
And it will introduce 3D plotting in Gamma and Live also.
Thanks for pointing that out!
Overall how do you think the idea is?
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014
One concern I have - does this mean we are bundling a copy of
Three.js/MathBox with SymPy now? Or are we going to rely on a third party
CDN?
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I think we include the Mathbox.js in Sympy to avoid any more dependencies,
so that a local user can plot right away..
What you say?
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:37 AM, David Li li.david...@gmail.com wrote:
One concern I have - does this mean we are bundling a copy of
Three.js/MathBox with SymPy
The problem with mathbox.js is that it is tested only on chrome and even
then it's example
http://acko.net/files/mathbox/MathBox.js/examples/3D.htmlis not
rendering at all in chrome on linux
I tried firefox also but no luck.
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT
And in Firefox also, the rendering of other examples is a bit laggy.
So, should i still go ahead with Mathbox.js or just use Three.js and write
the codes for Three.js which will be do same thing as Mathbox.js
I can also change the mathbox.js to suit us better.
Any suggestion?
On Thu, Mar 20,
I have been working on a proposal to implement 3D plotting in SymPyGamma,
and Jason pointed me to the importance of d3.js and Three.js backend in
the Sympy itself. so, i want to discuss the idea.As only four days are left
please reply.
My motivation
is
Hello,
you can also look at Bokeh http://bokeh.pydata.org/.
Christophe BAL
2014-03-18 8:50 GMT+01:00 SAHIL SHEKHAWAT sahilshekhawa...@gmail.com:
I have been working on a proposal to implement 3D plotting in SymPyGamma,
and Jason pointed me to the importance of d3.js and Three.js backend in
Its been copyrighted by Continuum Analytics, Inc.. will that be problem?
But it looks good!
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Christophe Bal projet...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
you can also look at Bokeh http://bokeh.pydata.org/.
Christophe BAL
2014-03-18 8:50 GMT+01:00 SAHIL SHEKHAWAT
But sadly it has a lot of dependencies
- NumPy
- Flask
- Redis
- Requests
- gevent
- gevent-websocket
- Pandas
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:50 PM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT sahilshekhawa...@gmail.com
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Its been copyrighted by Continuum Analytics, Inc.. will that be problem?
This dependencies are due to the fact that this project focuses on datas.
I've pointed to this project just for the philosophy of this project.
If you want to propose a JS viewer, you just have to translate Sympy
plot to the syntax of D3.js and/or three.js or another free JS library.
This is not
Thanks a lot Christophe!
I misunderstood what you said..This look nice
Also, With three.js we always have an option to fall back to html canvas
which every browser support ( specially IE7 ). I don't think that will a
problem. What you say?
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:16:43 PM UTC+5:30,
With three.js we always have an option to fall back
to html canvas which every browser support ( specially IE7 ).
I didn't know that. The problem that you will met with three.js is the
suport of formulas.
2014-03-18 10:52 GMT+01:00 SAHIL SHEKHAWAT sahilshekhawa...@gmail.com:
Thanks a lot
Can you please elaborate a bit about function's support of Three.js i am a
bit unclear..
you can look
here http://stemkoski.github.io/Three.js/Graphulus-Function.html this
example is able to plot function ( which the javascript support). and we
have another option to use mathbox.js
Sorry for the poorness of my english. Indeed when I wrote formulas I
think about legends containing formulas.
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This MathBox is just amazing !
2014-03-18 11:12 GMT+01:00 Christophe Bal projet...@gmail.com:
Sorry for the poorness of my english. Indeed when I wrote formulas I
think about legends containing formulas.
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Really! :D
Then i guess we can use it instead of Three.js. They have used tQuery with
Three.js and also have MIT license. and most of the things are ready-made.
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:48:46 PM UTC+5:30, Christophe Bal wrote:
This MathBox is just amazing !
2014-03-18 11:12 GMT+01:00
One more important thing,
By actually creating a JS viewer i can probably provide an alternative of
matplotlib and to interpret the javascript code produced from sympy i can:
1) Use libraries like Rhino and Spidermonkey
2) Use browser.
3) Just leave the code as it is and applications like Live or
Do not forget that fixed pictures are useful for paper reports. On the
other hand, I think that using web browsers for sliders is the better
solution to use actually because of the dynamical features and the JS
library that helps to build such sliders.
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Indeed they are and for that there is already an option of downloading from
matplotlib's support.
We can give an option to view the plot in the web browser and Live and
Gamma are always there to help us. They can render the plots very nicely.
I think it is very significant and should be my
There are a lot people working on plotting in the browser, many of them
tied to python execution. There probably isn't much reason to reinvent the
wheel here. This is another more simple project that implements a d3.js
backend for matplotlib: mpld3.github.io . Also there matplotlib has a
webagg
So, how can i improve sympy then?
I mean you said that we want 3D plotting for SymPy as a whole. so , how can
i improve that?
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Jason Moore moorepa...@gmail.com wrote:
There are a lot people working on plotting in the browser, many of them
tied to python
sorry for the slang but if a lot of people are working on the similar
project then what is there that i can work on!
I talked to Ondrej and David and they said that implementing 3D plotting
for Gamma is fine. Please suggest something.
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:32 PM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT
Correction: My hunch is that 99% of sympy use is local, ...
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On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Jason Moore moorepa...@gmail.com wrote:
My suggestion on melange was just to mention that if you only focus on 3D
plotting for SymPy Gamma then we are missing
My suggestion on melange was just to mention that if you only focus on 3D
plotting for SymPy Gamma then we are missing the majority of SymPy users.
My hunch is that 99% of people who use SymPy use it locally, not from SymPy
live or SymPy Gamma. If we currently don't support 3D plotting locally,
But we do support 3D plotting by matplotlib and also you mentioned that a
lot of people are working on making it browser compatible.
Sorry if i am irritating but i just want to clarify.
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Jason Moore moorepa...@gmail.com wrote:
My suggestion on melange was just
If we already use matplotlib for 3D plotting, then a long term solution to
this is to add three.js to the web backend of any one of the new plotting
libraries that are popping up (bokeh, mpld3, matplotlib's webagg backend).
Then you can simply use the library for the backend to the matplotlib
But even if you implement something with Mathbox.js then it would be nice
if users can use it locally or through Live/Gamma. That is the approach
with took with pydy-viz. Right now we can run them locally and if you want
embed it in a website you can.
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can you please point me out the direction where i can learn how PyDy works?
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Jason Moore moorepa...@gmail.com wrote:
But even if you implement something with Mathbox.js then it would be nice
if users can use it locally or through Live/Gamma. That is the
https://github.com/pydy/pydy-viz
We basically generate data on the python side, then write a json file to
disk, then we have a generic html/js/css template that uses three.js to
load in all the data from the json file and create a scene. The json file
is the communication between python and js.
That exactly what i was looking for!
I think i will go by this concept only...its awesome!
about using Json mathics guys also use json to render 3D plotting for
Three.js, Its good enough and works.
Thanks again. :)
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Jason Moore moorepa...@gmail.com wrote:
Just some thoughts:
- I agree with Jason that ultimately, integrating a library specifically
focused on Python and web plotting is the best course for SymPy and
Gamma/Live in general.
- Gamma/Live's problem is that it runs on App Engine - anything that
requires a server
David,
So, what your thought are,? should i write the codes into Gamma and Live or
into Sympy because both can be done and both will use Json which the
Three.js will use anyways!
* By implementing into Sympy we can make the plots locally like PyDy and
then also create a html element which will
one more thing, for Three.js we need not to worry about panning, so
according to me there isn't much difference
While implementing in Sympy has an extra advantage but also we will need to
figure out some ways to do things but with implementing into SymPyGamma and
Live we are implementing codes for
Hi,
On 18 March 2014 17:12, David Li li.david...@gmail.com wrote:
Just some thoughts:
I agree with Jason that ultimately, integrating a library specifically
focused on Python and web plotting is the best course for SymPy and
Gamma/Live in general.
Gamma/Live's problem is that it runs on
Also, note that even though WebGL is supported in most of the latest
browser versions, this will not work with a lot of peoples systems. We've
had tons of trouble getting the visualizations to run cross browser and
cross platform. I still haven't figured out MAC yet.
Jason,
But all the browser do support HTML Canvas right?
and Three.js uses it as a fallback option if there is no WebGL.
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Jason Moore moorepa...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, note that even though WebGL is supported in most of the latest
browser versions, this will
I have a Mac and I can see all the official examples of Three.js.
Christophe BAL
2014-03-18 18:13 GMT+01:00 SAHIL SHEKHAWAT sahilshekhawa...@gmail.com:
Jason,
But all the browser do support HTML Canvas right?
and Three.js uses it as a fallback option if there is no WebGL.
On Tue, Mar 18,
I don't know if it is that simple. If it is you are welcome to fixed
pydy-viz with the solution.
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On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:13 PM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT sahilshekhawa...@gmail.com
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Jason,
But all the browser do support HTML Canvas right?
and Three.js
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