Hi,
Just thinking outload here as dealing with some packages where stuff in
/etc was marked in the spec as %config and it really shouldn't be (I'm
thinking dbus policy files and rootcerts mainly but there are do doubt
countless other examples where this is true also).
I was thinking, is it a
]] Bryan Kadzban
Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Tom Gundersen
This was what the old nss-myhostname did. Lennart: any good reason
to exclude the .la or should nss-myhostname be treated the same as
the other libs?
.la files are only useful for static linking.
Untrue. They're
2013/1/7 Bryan Kadzban br...@kadzban.is-a-geek.net:
Untrue. They're perfectly useful for dynamic linking as well:
http://www.sourceware.org/autobook/autobook/autobook_68.html#SEC68
Second paragraph. Also the page several sections after this one, about
installing a shared library with
On Mon, 07.01.13 11:48, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote:
Hi,
Just thinking outload here as dealing with some packages where stuff in
/etc was marked in the spec as %config and it really shouldn't be (I'm
thinking dbus policy files and rootcerts mainly but there are do doubt
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 07/01/13 13:37 did gyre and gimble:
On Mon, 07.01.13 11:48, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote:
Hi,
Just thinking outload here as dealing with some packages where stuff in
/etc was marked in the spec as %config and it really shouldn't be (I'm
I was thinking, is it a general stated aim that we should be able to
boot with an empty /etc? I know this isn't true today, but with
appropriate effort is that where we should be aiming?
I have been thinking about this too, and I am even planning on doing
some experiments with this.
Currently
On Sat, 05.01.13 21:41, Tom Gundersen (t...@jklm.no) wrote:
This merges the nss-myhostname repo with the systemd repo (as requested
in TODO).
The git history is preserved, but to avoid spamming the ML only the commits
following the merge are posted. I could put up the full git repo if
On Sun, 06.01.13 00:12, Tom Gundersen (t...@jklm.no) wrote:
Looks good! Please commit!
---
tmpfiles.d/legacy.conf | 22 +-
tmpfiles.d/systemd.conf | 4
2 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
diff --git a/tmpfiles.d/legacy.conf
On Sun, 06.01.13 00:59, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
jesus christ, i have disabled on any server fsck after x days
or x boots because this will hit you always at the wrong moment
after a routine kernel update
Fedora disables that anyway. Only Debian retains this automatic
Hello all
A question about a slightly older version of systemd.
We are running systemd-37-25.fc16.x86_64.
We have a service called alarmist with a .service file like so:
[Unit]
Description=Raise alarms for %i
DefaultDependencies=no
[Service]
Type=oneshot
TimeoutSec=0
On Sun, 06.01.13 19:56, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
As Lennart explained this is still *supported*.
after many years i know what still means
udev without systemd will still be supported after the merge
is one example, will still menas for a short timeframe
in
On Sun, 06.01.13 10:46, Bryan Kadzban (br...@kadzban.is-a-geek.net) wrote:
Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Tom Gundersen
This was what the old nss-myhostname did. Lennart: any good reason
to exclude the .la or should nss-myhostname be treated the same as
the other libs?
.la files are
On Sun, 06.01.13 02:16, Tom Gundersen (t...@jklm.no) wrote:
+INSTALL_EXEC_HOOKS += \
+ myhostname-install-exec-hook
+
+UNINSTALL_EXEC_HOOKS += \
+ myhostname-uninstall-hook
+endif
Are those hooks necessary? Other libs have hooks only if they are
moved to rootlibdir
On Mon, 07.01.13 09:13, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote:
On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 11:48 +, Colin Guthrie wrote:
H
I was thinking, is it a general stated aim that we should be able to
boot with an empty /etc?
Definitely quite useful for my plan:
On Sat, 05.01.13 01:29, Giovanni Campagna (scampa.giova...@gmail.com) wrote:
Not all systems ships with locales inside /usr/lib/locale-archive, some
prefer to have locale data as individual subdirectories of /usr/lib/locale.
(A notable example of this is OpenEmbeddded, and OSes deriving from
On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 15:26 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
BTW, Kay and I were thinking about coming up with a simple scheme that
could pre-initialize a couple of files in /etc and /var that cannot
really sensibly be dropped. For example, UID assignemnts unfortunately
cannot be shipped in
On Sat, 05.01.13 02:22, Ilya Basin (basini...@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi list.
On shutdown I have
Buffer I/O error on device dm-...
because the truecrypt disk is unmounted later than the usb disk
containing the truecrypt image.
I think this happens, because
1) systemd can't figure out the
On Sat, 05.01.13 21:01, Oleg Samarin (osamari...@gmail.com) wrote:
В Пт., 04/01/2013 в 00:40 +0100, Lennart Poettering пишет:
On Thu, 27.12.12 22:54, Oleg Samarin (osamari...@gmail.com) wrote:
В Пн., 24/12/2012 в 13:08 +0100, Lennart Poettering пишет:
On Thu, 20.12.12 22:08, Oleg
On Mon, 07.01.13 16:41, Eelco Dolstra (eelco.dols...@logicblox.com) wrote:
This merges the nss-myhostname repo with the systemd repo (as requested
in TODO).
Eh. Nss-myhostname is a very useful package, but I'm wondering what the
motivation is for merging it into systemd? (The TODO
On Mon, 07.01.13 09:36, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote:
On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 15:26 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
BTW, Kay and I were thinking about coming up with a simple scheme that
could pre-initialize a couple of files in /etc and /var that cannot
really sensibly be
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 02:54:49PM +0100, Peeters Simon wrote:
- Some files are needed quiet hard (passwd, group, shadow ,...)
That's not really true, as any consumer of those files should go through
getpwname() and similar functions. And glibc implementation of those functions
could be made
2013/1/7 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net:
Well, for the NSS modules .la files make particularly little sense as
nobody ever links against them except with dlopen() called from inside
libc. And naked dlopen() doesn't know .la files, hence we can just
unconditionally remove them.
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 07:35:54PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
But dynamically allocating system users per-boot and ensuring that
/etc and /var matches would still be interesting.
Uh, yeah, there's still the question out there what to do with fully
dynamic throw-away UIDs, for example
On Mon, 07.01.13 19:47, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote:
2013/1/7 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net:
Well, for the NSS modules .la files make particularly little sense as
nobody ever links against them except with dlopen() called from inside
libc. And naked dlopen()
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 03:14:42PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Sun, 06.01.13 10:46, Bryan Kadzban (br...@kadzban.is-a-geek.net) wrote:
On Linux the .la files are probably not necessary for shared libs, no --
but using libtool to find them still is, if the code ever expects to
Heya,
a few days ago Kay commited a change to git that made predictable
network interface names the default for the upcoming systemd/udev
197. To explain what this is about we put together this wiki document:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames
Hi,
Generally great idea specially embedded people like us will welcome. Do you
have any idea it's possible to allow the / slash in interface names as known
and seen in other network devices? It could be used to name interface
regarding the slot and port?
I.e. fe0/01 for fast Ethernet
On Mon, 07.01.13 23:06, Holger Winkelmann (h...@travelping.com) wrote:
Hi,
Generally great idea specially embedded people like us will
welcome. Do you have any idea it's possible to allow the / slash in
interface names as known and seen in other network devices? It could
be used to name
2013/1/7 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net:
On Mon, 07.01.13 19:47, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote:
Well, there is libltdl which ttbomk requires the .la files for dlopen.
Not that this matters much for systemd, though.
libltdl doesn't need .la files really.
Good to know. It
merged without history. It's not that big.
Merged now. Sorry for the long delay and all the discussions. We
should just go ahead with the code in git now.
Here is an example of:
init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-bootchart
http://people.freedesktop.org/~kay/bootchart-20130107-2346.svg
Thanks,
Kay
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote:
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 03:14:42PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Sun, 06.01.13 10:46, Bryan Kadzban (br...@kadzban.is-a-geek.net) wrote:
On Linux the .la files are probably not necessary for shared libs,
2013/1/8 Kay Sievers k...@vrfy.org:
Maybe it isn't worth to do it in the buildsys, and we leave it to the
packagers
Sounds like the most sensible approach to me.
--
Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
universe are pointed away from Earth?
Heya,
There's quite some cool new stuff in this release:
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/systemd-197.tar.xz
CHANGES WITH 197:
* Timer units now support calendar time events in addition to
monotonic time events. That means you can now trigger a unit
based
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
2013/1/7 Bryan Kadzban br...@kadzban.is-a-geek.net:
Untrue. They're perfectly useful for dynamic linking as well:
http://www.sourceware.org/autobook/autobook/autobook_68.html#SEC68
Second paragraph. Also the page several sections after this one, about
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