Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 01.12.14 00:30, Gergely Nagy (alger...@madhouse-project.org) wrote: > > "Lennart" == Lennart Poettering writes: > > >> Forwarding is enabled by default on Debian, as I wrote in my original > >> mail. I have no control over the default, and I have no desire to argue > >> f

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-30 Thread Gergely Nagy
> "Lennart" == Lennart Poettering writes: >> Forwarding is enabled by default on Debian, as I wrote in my original >> mail. I have no control over the default, and I have no desire to argue >> for changing it. There are other syslogds in Debian (including the >> default one) t

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-30 Thread Gergely Nagy
> "Lennart" == Lennart Poettering writes: Lennart> On Wed, 26.11.14 11:04, Gergely Nagy (alger...@madhouse-project.org) wrote: >> This works beautifully, except there's one problem: >> >> Nov 26 10:41:05 eowyn systemd-journal[14843]: Forwarding to syslog missed 1343 message

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 28.11.14 15:13, Gergely Nagy (alger...@madhouse-project.org) wrote: > > "Martin" == Martin Pitt writes: > > Martin> So we either need the journal.conf.d/ feature and have > journal-pulling > Martin> sysloggers disable forwarding along the way, or we need to wait > until >

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 28.11.14 14:53, Martin Pitt (martin.p...@ubuntu.com) wrote: > Hey Gergely, > > Gergely Nagy [2014-11-26 13:07 +0100]: > > Forwarding is enabled by default on Debian, as I wrote in my > > original mail. I have no control over the default, and I have no > > desire to argue for changing it.

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 26.11.14 13:07, Gergely Nagy (alger...@madhouse-project.org) wrote: > > "Jóhann" == Jóhann B Guðmundsson writes: > > Jóhann> On 11/26/2014 10:04 AM, Gergely Nagy wrote: > >> On Debian, syslog forwarding is enabled by default, and since syslog-ng > >> reads from the journa

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 26.11.14 13:08, Gergely Nagy (alger...@madhouse-project.org) wrote: > > "Colin" == Colin Guthrie writes: > > Colin> Gergely Nagy wrote on 26/11/14 10:04: > >> 3) Disable syslog forwarding if syslog-ng is installed > >> > >> Not sure how this could be achieved, becaus

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 26.11.14 11:04, Gergely Nagy (alger...@madhouse-project.org) wrote: > Hi! > > I have an interesting situation here, which I'm trying to wrap my head > around and solve. The problem is that I have a syslog daemon (syslog-ng > 3.6.1) that has a native Journal source, meaning it can pull ent

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-28 Thread Gergely Nagy
> "Martin" == Martin Pitt writes: Martin> So we either need the journal.conf.d/ feature and have journal-pulling Martin> sysloggers disable forwarding along the way, or we need to wait until Martin> all packaged sysloggers can read from the journal before we turn off Martin>

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Pitt
Hey Gergely, Gergely Nagy [2014-11-26 13:07 +0100]: > Forwarding is enabled by default on Debian, as I wrote in my > original mail. I have no control over the default, and I have no > desire to argue for changing it. I'm just packaging systemd 217, and will revert the disabled forwarding by defau

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-26 Thread Gergely Nagy
> "Jóhann" == Jóhann B Guðmundsson writes: Jóhann> Right but you are going against downstream distribution policy and Jóhann> unwilling yourself ( or have the consumer of the syslog-ng package do Jóhann> that ) to change the default manually ( via journald.conf ) or Jóhann> a

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-26 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/26/2014 12:07 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote: "Jóhann" == Jóhann B Guðmundsson writes: Jóhann> On 11/26/2014 10:04 AM, Gergely Nagy wrote: >> On Debian, syslog forwarding is enabled by default, and since syslog-ng >> reads from the journal, there's nothing listening on >> /ru

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-26 Thread Gergely Nagy
> "Colin" == Colin Guthrie writes: Colin> Gergely Nagy wrote on 26/11/14 10:04: >> 3) Disable syslog forwarding if syslog-ng is installed >> >> Not sure how this could be achieved, because journald.conf does not >> belong to the syslog-ng package, therefore I can't fiddle

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-26 Thread Gergely Nagy
> "Jóhann" == Jóhann B Guðmundsson writes: Jóhann> On 11/26/2014 10:04 AM, Gergely Nagy wrote: >> On Debian, syslog forwarding is enabled by default, and since syslog-ng >> reads from the journal, there's nothing listening on >> /run/systemd/journal/syslog, and I get spammed w

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-26 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/26/2014 10:04 AM, Gergely Nagy wrote: Hi! I have an interesting situation here, which I'm trying to wrap my head around and solve. The problem is that I have a syslog daemon (syslog-ng 3.6.1) that has a native Journal source, meaning it can pull entries from the Journal directly, and does

Re: [systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-26 Thread Colin Guthrie
Gergely Nagy wrote on 26/11/14 10:04: > 3) Disable syslog forwarding if syslog-ng is installed > >Not sure how this could be achieved, because journald.conf does not >belong to the syslog-ng package, therefore I can't fiddle its >settings from there. (Technically, I could, but I won't,

[systemd-devel] Native Journal source vs syslog forwarding

2014-11-26 Thread Gergely Nagy
Hi! I have an interesting situation here, which I'm trying to wrap my head around and solve. The problem is that I have a syslog daemon (syslog-ng 3.6.1) that has a native Journal source, meaning it can pull entries from the Journal directly, and does not need the syslog forwarding socket - and th