Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-08 Thread Jason St. John
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:26 PM, David Timothy Strauss wrote: > On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Jason St. John wrote: >> "init.debug" would be better than "systemd.debug", in my opinion. It >> is shorter (less typing and no possible end-user confusion over >> "systemd.debug" vs. "system.debug"), a

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Jason St. John wrote: > "init.debug" would be better than "systemd.debug", in my opinion. It > is shorter (less typing and no possible end-user confusion over > "systemd.debug" vs. "system.debug"), and it is init-agnostic. Other > init systems (OpenRC, Upstart, etc.

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-05 Thread Jason St. John
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Greg KH wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 07:11:47AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 04:08:15PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote: >> > From: Greg KH >> > >> > If the kernel is started with "debug", that's for the kernel to switch >>

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-05 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 11:32:50PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >> wrote: >> > On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 01:16:12PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: >> >> On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 a

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 11:32:50PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 01:16:12PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 07:11:47AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > >> wrote: > >> > On Thu,

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.04.2014 23:22, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > The whole issue started with bug #76935: the original reporter was > seemingly unaware of available kernel commandline options, and his > comments fairly quickly degenerated to rude personal attacks. It's > something that one sees quite o

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-05 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 01:16:12PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 07:11:47AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 04:08:15PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote: >> > > From: Greg KH

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 01:16:12PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 07:11:47AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 04:08:15PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote: > > > From: Greg KH > > > > > > If the kernel is started with "debug", that's for the kernel

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-05 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 07:11:47AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 04:08:15PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote: > > From: Greg KH > > > > If the kernel is started with "debug", that's for the kernel to switch > > into debug mode. We should rely on a namespace for

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 04:08:15PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote: > From: Greg KH > > If the kernel is started with "debug", that's for the kernel to switch > into debug mode. We should rely on a namespace for our options, like > everything else (with the exception of "quiet"). Some people want

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-03 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 08:18:26AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 04:08:15PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote: > > From: Greg KH > > > > If the kernel is started with "debug", that's for the kernel to switch > > into debug mode. We should rely on a namespace for our options, like >

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-03 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 04:08:15PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote: > From: Greg KH > > If the kernel is started with "debug", that's for the kernel to switch > into debug mode. We should rely on a namespace for our options, like > everything else (with the exception of "quiet"). Some people want

[systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not "debug"

2014-04-03 Thread Hannes Reinecke
From: Greg KH If the kernel is started with "debug", that's for the kernel to switch into debug mode. We should rely on a namespace for our options, like everything else (with the exception of "quiet"). Some people want to only debug the kernel, not systemd, and the opposite as well so make eve