Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-18 Thread B. Kunnath
Not to nitpick but from an earlier post: The state of the sport leads to such uncredibility. Alan From: "alan tobin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "alan tobin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: rutto Date:

Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-17 Thread alan tobin
I bet you don't visit the Letsrun.com or Kemibe.com message boards much do ya? If you did you would see new meanings of the word libel and restricted speech going the way of the Dodo. Also, the correct adjective is indecorous not the non-word undecorous, but a less snooty way of saying the

Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-16 Thread alan tobin
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Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-16 Thread Richard McCann
At 04:37 PM 10/16/2003 +, alan tobin wrote: but if the statement comes down to he ran fast, so he must be on drugs then these type of statements have two problems. First, they border on libel, which may expose the writer to legal actions. It doesn't boil down to he ran fast, so he must be

Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-16 Thread alan tobin
. Alan From: Richard McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: alan tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: rutto Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:10:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us ([168.150.193.10]) by mc6-f9.hotmail.com with Microsoft

Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-16 Thread Richard McCann
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Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-16 Thread edndana
As for your blanket suspicions, again they simply undermine interest in the sport. Fans are not interested in a sport where it's assumed that many athletes are breaking the rules. If it's factually known that the majority of athletes are using drugs and the sport decides to accept that as

Re: Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-16 Thread Richard McCann
runners. It all makes sense now. malmo From: Richard McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/16 Thu PM 12:10:12 CDT To: alan tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: rutto At 04:37 PM 10/16/2003 +, alan tobin wrote: but if the statement

Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-16 Thread koala
And I guess that the only way you can argue with my points is start disparaging me personally. In my professional experience, that means that my points have sufficient validity that you can't undermine them with your own evidence, so you have to try to change the subject, focusing on the

Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-15 Thread Mike Prizy
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Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-15 Thread Elitnet
I would say NOT... But, you are giving him bait and a forum to speak freely. I don't think that Mr. Rutto is bothered at all In a message dated 10/15/2003 11:19:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: P.S. Is this what the list was like in the good old days?

Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-14 Thread alan tobin
Can you blame me for being suspicious? A negative split sub 2:06 in his DEBUT. I don't like the taste of that kool-aid. Alan From: peter watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: peter watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: rutto Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:48:17 -0700 (PDT

Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-14 Thread B. Kunnath
Keep slinging that mud Alan. Its really easy from a keyboard. What you dont seem to understand is that IF this guyjust happens to beclean (and I'd buy Petes story over yours any day), maybe you owe him an apology? Does the Kool-aid taste a little bitter? bob Can you blame me for being

Re: t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-14 Thread Keith Whitman
Bob, I'm not stating an opinion about the athlete in question, but isn't a discussion list allowed to include the right to include an opinion? Alan simply said he was suspicious which is a fair statement given the state of our sport right now. We'd all love to live in that drug free athletic

t-and-f: rutto

2003-10-13 Thread peter watson
Alan- because you have not heard of him it is suspicious? I will tell you Evans is the real deal and 100% clean. I had the honor of being part of Dieters training group,running every day with the guys then hanging out drinking chai watching tv. unfortuantly I got injured and did not get to race.