Re: t-and-f: The Walks

Netters I leave in one day - computer time is limited. I will answer what I can. race. That Australian lady must be in such a depression tonight. Jane Saville most likely single handedly saved the event and a riot. She was qouted several times as saying that being dqed was part of the

Re: t-and-f: Sydney notes...

In a message dated 00-10-01 16:32:27 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A comment by MJ after the long relay is revealing- she said something to the effect that she will never train seriously for the 400m, such as to go after the WR, because she doesn't like the way her body feels after a 400

Re: t-and-f: women's 10,000m records

- Original Message - From: Kurt Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Virtually overlooked in the women's 10,000m in Sydney was Tegla Loroupe completing arguably the most amazing long distance double in championship competition. Amazing? Maybe yes; most amazing? No. Consider: Viren in '76:

Re: t-and-f: Capel's start

In a message dated 00-10-01 23:30:48 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Problem, Capel flinched, which does not constitute a false start. If his feet did not leave the pressure plates there would be no indication to the starting officials. He made a rookie mistake, ask Jon Drummond(Zurich) or

t-and-f: U.S. 800m running

When it comes to the 800m, the United States sure had a lousy Olympics. Only two semifinalists and one finalist on the women's side, and not a single man advanced past the opening round. Although there is less margin for error in the 800 than most other track events, this goes beyond bad

Re: t-and-f: Talk about falling short: What about Burrell? - Errata

A hearing where the truth comes out. Paid for by the Canadian government as they tried to clean up their sporting organizations. Great idea. But it will never happen south of the border? Not a chance !! At 10:32 PM 10/2/00 EDT, you wrote: Then if Ben Johnson was so clean at the Games why did

RE: t-and-f: Capel's start

You said: I think the starter should've called the race up just to settle everyone down. Thing is everyone didn't need settling down . As far as I know noone was unsettled except Capel. Mike

t-and-f: D3 Regional CC Polls?

Hi all, Does anyone know where, if at all, regional Division 3 Cross Country polls can be found? Any help is greatly appreciated. --- | Bob Ramsak | OHIO Track Running Report | http://www.trackprofile.com | Cleveland, Ohio USA | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: Comment from list member

-Original Message- From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 4:00 AM Anybody ever get a comment like this from a list member? Whoever sent this need some disclipline from the narrator of this list. No way! Marion is the hands down winner! Mantis

RE: t-and-f: Re: Malmo's comments on El Guerrouj and Coe

Just as a point of information, Coe's PR of 3:29.77 was on the notorious Rieti track where extraordinary performances have been commonplace over the past 20 years. -Original Message- From: Matthew H Fraser Moat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 2:31 AM To: [EMAIL

Re: t-and-f: Boorish behavior

Unfortunately, you are probably right. Everything in sports seems to be going that way these days. How about Terrill Owens the other day in Dallas?? The Baron

t-and-f: Re: Malmo's comments on El Guerrouj and Coe

Just as a point of information, Coe's PR of 3:29.77 was on the notorious Rieti track where extraordinary performances have been commonplace over the past 20 years. Few people can exceed me in admiration for Sebastian Coe's exploits* - my next door neighbour, a middle-aged woman of battle-axe

Re: t-and-f: U.S. 800m running

Derrick, I'm definitely *not* trying to put down the 800 or the guys (and gals) who run it. As someone who has run plenty of non-world-class (read: slow-as-molasses) 800s, I have all the respect in the world for people who try to make a living competing in such a physically and mentally brutal

Re: t-and-f: Sydney notes...

In a message dated 00-10-01 16:32:27 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A comment by MJ after the long relay is revealing- she said something to the effect that she will never train seriously for the 400m, such as to go after the WR, because she doesn't like the way her body feels after a

Re: t-and-f: u.s. women

John wrote: It was not a gender specific virus in the case of Rod DeHaven. He was receiving I.V.'s several days before the marathon to fight off dehydration caused by the virus he contracted. Oh I understand that some men were also affected by the virus that went around Sydney .. But in

Re: t-and-f: U.S. 800m running

P.F. Talbot wrote: We have had this debate several times before on this list (the 400/800 runner vs the 800/1500 runner) and it's always great fun, at least for those of us who love the 800. I've always looked to Coe as the best example of how to make an 800m runner. Take a successful

Re: t-and-f: Sydney notes...Jeff Williams

John Smith once allegedly made the comment that US Atlanta Olympic sprinter Jeff Williams could have been the next big thing in the 400M. If he was prepared to put in the work and suffer the pain. Tony Craddock At 12:10 PM 10/3/00 -0700, Conway wrote: In a message dated 00-10-01 16:32:27 EDT,

Re: t-and-f: U.S. 800m running

Why has the U.S. become so weak in this event? I think it's especially surprising on the men's side, where our total domination of the 400m suggests that we should be able to find a few guys who could move up to the new-style, "long sprint" version of the 800 with success. (I still wish

t-and-f: need to find runnng magazine in Brasil

hi all, if anyone has contact and name of running magazine in Brazil, i would appreciate them emailing me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks alot. larry eder atf

Re: t-and-f: Let's Kill All The Lawyers

bruce, a few points. 1. get off the kill all the lawyers stuff. Anyone who deals with lawyers, ie anyone who has their own business realizes that they keep you out of more trouble than they get you into. Also note that several of our prominent track geeks are lawyers. 2. Also unless you

t-and-f: Peter Snell - 800/1500m all-time list

As the token kiwi on the list I feel it is my duty to note the exploits of Peter Snell in regards to Matthew H Fraser Moat's question of who should be on both 800/1500m all-time lists. Snell won two Olympic 800m titles (Coe could "only" manage silver). Snell won the Olympic 1500m in Tokyo in

Re: t-and-f: Re: Malmo's comments on El Guerrouj and Coe

On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Matthew H Fraser Moat wrote: You can have long debates about who is the best 1,500m/Mile runner of all time, you can have long debates about who is the best 800m runner of all time, but few people would argue that Coe should be included in both discussions. My question

t-and-f: Missed opportunities etc.

Netters: The history of our sport is replete with athletes who missed opportunities for great in certain events either because they feared them or, frankly, were too lazy to do thje necessary work. Our prime example from NJ was Wendy Vereen, who did pretty well in the sprints, though

Re: t-and-f: U.S. 800m running

On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Ed Dana Parrot wrote: Also, didn't Coe's speed improvement come at a fairly young age? And wasn't he always an 800/1500 guy with the 3000m being more of a stretch. No, he was a 1500/3000m guy through his teens and ran few 800s, at 18 he couldn't break 50 for 400m (at

Re: t-and-f: Re Suzy's place in history

James Fields wrote: To appreciate a 2:38/2:39 in the interior of a women's 1500m, consider an Olympic final-size field of this year's top 12 performers from 1000-meter races without a preceding 400 or following 100. This list is topped with 2:37.22 by the silver medalist at Sydney.

t-and-f: The continuing soap opera known as t-and-f

After reading (and lurking) these past 2 weeks of Olympic posts and Mantis1's off list call out. I've concluded that this beats any soap opera for laughs. Maybe we should change the name to "General Stadium" or "All My Events", perhaps "As The Shot Put Turns" (too close to a drug

Re: t-and-f: Sydney notes...

Related question, prior to this year has there ever been an athlete, male or female, who medaled in an Olympics or World Championships in both the Long Jump and either the open 400 or 4x400? That has to be one of the widest 'dissimilarity' of top-level performance in events ever seen, perhaps

t-and-f: Testosterone Magazine?? The truth is out there.

The following article is from this week's Testosterone Magazine at http://www.testosterone.net/html/124tc.html It is understood that a similar interview in next week's magazine will contain even more explosive information. Reprinted with permission Rocket Scientist An

t-and-f: www.fast-women.com

I wanted to let everyone know about my new women's elite distance running web site, located at www.fast-women.com. It's a work in progress and mostly U.S.-focused at this point, but I hope to eventually give it more of an international focus (and expand it in many other ways). Current

t-and-f: Sydney Notes (Broad jump-400 meters)

Not the same Olympics, but Szewinska was second in the broad jump in Tokyo and then won the 400 meters in Montreal. Bill Allen

t-and-f: Re: Olympic marathon qualifying times

On the discussion of the Olympic qualifying times for the marathon, I'd say that the men have a more valid argument than the women for "toughness". Compare the men's qualifying standard of 2:14 to the winning time in the Olympic marathon (less than 4 minutes). Then compare the women's

Re: t-and-f: U.S. 800m running

Not going to flame, but basically agree. I grew up in Michigan - about 4 miles from '84 Olympic bronze medalist, Earl Jones. I ran in races that started at the same time as Earl (not fair to say I was in the same race) in high school. Earl ran cross country in the fall, and wasn't all that

Re: t-and-f: Peter Snell - 800/1500m all-time list

yes it does make him the best (800m for sure and maybe the best tactical 1500m guy) considering the time, conditions, shoes, etc... Bomba --- Stephen Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the token kiwi on the list I feel it is my duty to note the exploits of Peter Snell in regards to Matthew H

Re: t-and-f: Re: Malmo's comments on El Guerrouj and Coe

Matthew H Fraser Moat wrote: In Coe's heydey (1979 - 81) there was no Grand Prix circuit, Maybe not as such, but there was the Dream Mile in Zurich and big meets in Berlin, Rieti, Stockholm, Oslo, etc. etc. Both Coe and Ovett set records in staged races. racing opportunities were more